1990 rs camaro 3.1 v6

well i went to replace the fuel filter saw the line going to the filter was twisted i was stupid and tried to replace the filter anyways and it broke complety

can i just buy the fuel line from the fuel filter back i called a shop and they said they have to custom make one

if i can buy just that one line where does that line begin at?

 

Yes from what I know there all universal fit and you have to bend them to fit your application using a tube bender or have the shop do it. I believe the line should run from some filter back to the gas tank area. You might try the classifieds section in parts wanted if you have the time to wait. Else you're going to need to bend it and flare it as needed.

 

Or go to your local salvage yards.

 

yea but i dont know where the line begins i tried to fallow it from the fuel filter back and kind of had no luck, also the line would stop leaking? or will it slowley drain my tank?

 

Most auto part stores have the Dorman GM fuel line repair kits, the lines are 12" to 18" long & come with a compression union to hook to the old line. The feed line is 3/8 & the return line is 5/16, those lines have a special flare that has an o-ring on it (most DIY flaring tools wont make it). You'll need a tube bender & a tube cutter.

 

If you're talking about the hardline that runs toward the back of the car, it goes all the way back and up to the fuel sending unit, which houses the fuel pump. If you find the tip of that line at a junkyard or something (The part that connects to the fuel filter), you could try patching it with some rubber fuel hose.

 

ok, that sucks, but will the line stop leaking?

and does this forum have a part out thread?
if not do you know a camaro forum that does?

 

If by "part out thread" you mean for sell and wanted. Yes, we have a classifieds board for that: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/classified-boards/

It sounds like yours is leaking because of the break by the fuel filter. A replacement line from the parts store should work with the proper tools. Some fuel rated hose and clamps might work if you have enough good line left off the fuel filter connector. If it's leaking from that joint being twisted between the line and connector, then the hose isn't going to fix that.

 

my cars still leaking gas and its been a few days now when will it stop

 

yea its twisted right at the connection

 

yes a classified yes but what i mean is a section just for partouts

 

I imagine it may be siphoning slowly. You could put a piece of rubber hose over the broken line and 2 clamps to tighten it down the line and on the end of the hose to cap it off until you get it fixed. That way you're not dripping while you're deciding what to do.

 

i found a line so im going to pick it up tomorrow,

but i dont understand why after 2days i have a big puddle of gas


oh btw everyone i think i might have a problem i dont know but i put a bucket type thing to catch it and when i went to go look at it its black the gas in the bucket is black

and if i get it professionally done how long should it take to remove the old line and put in the new one. i was barley able to get to the fuel filter has it was,and i already had the backtire fall on my foot ( i useing the screw jack to hold it up i know i know)

also besides towing what can i do to get it to the shop?

 

Simple deal is that the fuel filter is lower than the bottom of the tank. So fuel will continue to run out of the gas tank through the break until it's empty. Same principle as gravity bleeding the brakes.

Trust me, you CAN do this yourself. There is a rubber hose between the fuel tank lines and the busted line. Undo this hose (however it is attached, mine used hose clamps but yours may have a threaded fitting) and disconnect the filter and put the replacement in.

BTW, jack stands are cheap. Might want to get a set. Jacks, not so much.

 

i have jack stands i was only able to barly manuver one hand under there because of how low the car was and where the stand was

im lost what rubber hose are you talking about? and your saying i dont need the line from the filter all the way back to the tank?

is there detailed picture instructions for doing this
or a site like.... vfaq.com for these cars?

 

Fact is that there is no hard line all the way back to the fuel tank. There is a section, which is broken on yours, which is about 3 feet long, that runs from the inlet of the filter around the corner of the floor pan, next to the rear frame rail, that will run into a section of rubber hose about a foot long. The hose is there because the fuel tank is designed to be removed when the fuel pump needs to be replaced, and the hose prevents damage to the hard lines.

Remove the small section between the hose and the filter, cut the twisted, rusted, and otherwise damaged part of it off, and replace with the line in the repair kit, securing it with a piece of fuel injection hose and 2 clamps (probably provided in the repair kit). Should take about an hour or 2. And a 10mm socket to undo the chassis clamp bolts. The clamps will probably break when you go to open them to release the pressure line, FYI.

 

first im not getting a repair kit, i am buying a new/used line so all i would need from him is the line from the fuel filter to the hose, jw is that hose a clear color thats some what right behind the wheel well? and where are the clamps to release the pressure?

 

The fuel hose better not be a clear hose... FI hose is thick and black, basically a smaller diameter radiator hose, which is designed to hold up to like 80 PSI or something like that and withstand gasoline deterioration.

If your fuel line is leaking constantly, and you've said it is, there is no fuel pressure. The broken line won't allow it. The drips are merely gravity flow from the tank. Yes, it's going to be messy.

 

ok i tried to fallow the line while i was under it, i loose it at the clear hose, im not sure if thats something way different but if youve been under you car and you dont what clear hose im talking about then i might just have a clear hose idk

but all i would need is the line from the fuel filter to the hose and it would just connect to the hose?

what got hard for me to fallow it was when it went to gether with the 3 or 4 other black hoses right at the begining of the wheel well and when i tried to fallow it the rest of the way i belive it brought me to a big clear hose

 

Dude, if you have a clear hose in your fuel system, you need to go and get some fuel injection hose PRONTO. I know what I'm talking about here. I have all of EVERYTHING off of my car's frame (just got the windshield out Friday), and my 2 pressure and fuel return lines are out on my back patio (only place I have room ATM, going to get replaced anyways so weather is no concern). Not to mention my factory service manuals with diagrams...

Again, all you need to fix this is either the repair kit, or if you insist, a section of new line between the inlet of the filter and the hose coming off of the fuel sender in the gas tank. And a section of hose to get rid of that half-baked bandaid on your fuel line. That's almost as big a :nono: as using rubber hose to fix a break in one of the brake lines . Trust me, sooner or later, the gas flowing through the clear hose is going to eat through the hose and then you'll have a big problem, especially if you're going down the road .

 

i get the repair kit right i have no line bending tool or a flareing tool and, its twisted right at the beging of the connection piece that goes in the fuel filter.

what half baked bandaid are you refering to? and again im not 100% sure that, that clear hose as anything to do with the fuel system

but will the repair kit come with the line that has that connection to go into the fuel filter?

 

The bandaid I was referring to would be the clear hose... GET RID OF IT. Should be NO clear hoses anywhere, period.

You would need to cut the damaged section of the line off of the good part and undo the filter, and then go to a parts store with it and make sure you get the right fitting. I don't think you need the special one that has the o-ring on it (that would be for the engine compartment).

 

To make things a bit more clear and simple, are you able to just post pictures of everything you're referring to? That way we can further explain exactly what you need to do and where to do it...

 

yes i will attemp to get pictures up here tomorrow of both where its snapped at and the hose i am talking about

 

Yes the fuel filter fitting needs the o-ring type flare, its called a saginaw flare. GM has been using it on efi fuel filters since the early 80s.

 

its been raining these past coupledays but ill the pics up soon

 

ok so i made a mistake there is no clear hose anywhere it was just rotted and dirty and in the bright light i guessed it kinda looked cleared. amd this is where its snapped at

 

Need a pic further back to know what the line/hose is for... There's 4 hoses right there, and without a decent pic, we can't tell you which to replace or what it does.

 

thats the hose that goes into the fuelfilter its snapped right at the connection. its the hose closets to the out side. im not sure if thats what you wanna know or not

 

Looks like somebody tried to patch what you're replacing before. Closest hose to the fuel filter should be the one that connects the inlet line on the filter to the fuel sending unit coming out of the fuel tank, no hose within 2 feet (feet of fuel line) of the filter itself. However, you can cut out the damaged portion of the line and go to the parts store to see if you can find a filter with a hose barb on the inlet side (might be hard to find for non-carbed applications, most with hoses that I've seen are on the outlet side and they ONLY go ONE way). Might be worth it to thumb through a Fram or Purolator filter book at a parts store to see what you can find.

 

how do you assume that somebody tried to patch i dont understand?

 

You said that part in the pic above was right before the fuel filter connection...

 

yea i dont know if i twisted it while trying to take the filter off.


89 and 90s have the same fuel line setup right there both 3gen i hope so because i just found out its of a 89

and all the way to the left thats the right connection to the end right?

 

Need a wider pic... Not quite sure what I'm looking at there. The line going to the fuel filter will be the biggest of the 4 under there (3/8" line as opposed to 1/4" or 5/16").

The lines are the same for all fuel injected vehicles...

 

ok that answers my question that pic was just to show the connection at the end.... the fuel line looks so much bigger under the car..

is there a step by step " article" on replacing the fuel line anywhere?

 

Do somethig like this. Not how I would do it but from the sounds of it , this will be the easiest way for you.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RN...3/?image=large

just dont bypass the filter. replace the section that broke on yours.

 

thats not the line and i dont understand whats goin on in that picture either way i have the line i need i have the whole fuel line system because the guy wouldnt sell me that one part that i needed

 

well if you got the complete line setup. thats an easy swap.

 

about how long would it take to remove the old setup and install the new one setup

i dont have the resrouces for doing that so 95% chance ill have a shop do it if resonable

 

a Shop could have it done in a few hours.

 

a few hours at 90 an hr does not seem good i would rather take the line i need and either keep the rest or sell

 

All you have to do is undo the end of the fuel line attached to the filter and the other end attached to the hose and undo the clamps in the middle. Take it to a shop to have it made if you must, and reinstall the new one using the reverse. You don't need any fancy compression fittings as in the pics above (don't know why the fuel filter is bypassed, but to each their own, I guess) or anything as complicated as AN fittings.

 

i have a fuel line i just paid for so i think ima go with the fuel line i just got

 

look at the lines you got. you said you have jackstands. get your car up on them and get under there and look at it.

Its a simple job. Eve for a 1st timer.

 

since you would be the only one that would know what im talking is there something like a vfaq for these cars?

but yea i have two jackstands the screw jack will only bring it up so far


when the line snapped i tried to fallow the line to see where it went to

so what i dissconnect it from the filter and then what i would have to drop that tank to dicconect the other end right? is the fuel sending unit/pump. like the dsms where the 1g had acces through the hatch and the 2gs had it under the rear seats?

 

ramps make it easier, drive left front onto 1 ramp, use $20 hydro jack n jack on the shock bracket to lift rear left high enough to slide 2nd ramp under it.

plenty of room, get ready for more leaks though, as u f with one section u distrub others.

i hate compression fittings, even ones under kitchen sink never work for me.
fi rated rubber hose n double clamps on each end. (my kitchen sink has a rad hose on it)

done did the back like u once.
just did the section that runs under the prop valve.

center section that gets greasy, still like new,

 

im confused..... i would love ramps but i dont have money like that. i have no idea what a compression fitting is or what a prop valve is

 

which is why u should just stop save and pay to get it done.

its not rocket science, very straight forward n simple.

learn more first. help others work on their cars who know more.

but u cant do your own stuff with out a bare min $20 set of ramps n a $20 hydro jack.

gonna cost more in the long run flying blind.

beg borrow n plead on loacal boards for help, but expect to do 3x more work then u get. n dont expect to get yours done first. find greasy guys hangin out n a garage n be willing to be the whipping boy to learn. take shiet, eat shiet n crawl in shiet for hands on $$$$$$ experience. best way to learn.

pride is over rated

 

You have 2 choices. Either learn or have the shop fix it. Keep in mind sometimes even the biggest gear heads have to bow out and have a shop do some. It's just a fact if we mess up it'll cost us more in the end.