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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 06:36 AM
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Re: First Build

Im not sure. But for for the gains if I was you I would just get some 1.6:1 roller tip rockers and leave it at that. Something such as this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Comp-Cams-MAGNUM-ROLLER-ROCKERS-CS-1-6-10MM-1414-12-/370584135983?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564889292f&vxp=mtr
There is so many different types out there and brands but it gives you a idea on what will work.
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 07:32 AM
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just buy roller tipped rockers for a small block chevy , and then u reuse the rocker pivot ***** off ur stock rockers
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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Re: First Build

ok with the 1.6 rockers will i need longer pushrods?
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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You can still use the stockers IIRC.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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The best way to tell would be buy a pushrod length checker. That way you know exactly what length you need instead of just being in the ballpark. They're only $20 or so on Summit.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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Re: First Build

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The best way to tell would be buy a pushrod length checker. That way you know exactly what length you need instead of just being in the ballpark. They're only $20 or so on Summit.
the change from 1.5 to 1.6 wont require longer or shorter pushrods
geometry will still be acceptable
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 07:07 AM
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Alright and what's a good place to buy .30 over pistons?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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I got speed pro .030 overs from summit for 140 bucks shipped.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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would you happen to have a part number?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 03:35 PM
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For a 3.4L .030 over on iron heads right?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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yes sir
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Re: First Build

This should be them for ya. A tad more then the ones I got but I was getting 30 overs for a 3100 gen 3.



L32 S code is a 1993-1995 3.4L Iron headed F-body.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sl...make/chevrolet

Open up that link and make sure that those are .030 overs. Im not accustom to the bore of a 3.4L. Add .030 to the standard bore and make sure I got the right ones up there for ya.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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Re: First Build

Well was heading home from work today o n the highway and a bunch of black smoke and sparks shot out my exhaust and she won't start. An omen to replace the engine or could this be an easy fix?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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That's no good. Check the oil level, look in the ex pipe for oil. Could just be a timing issue though.

I had the reluctor come apart on my dizzy when I was coming out of the burn out box last summer at the track. It backfired so bad and ran like crap. Now just imagine doing that reving the car at 5k with the line lock on and then when you let off the line lock it does that. Literally flames where shooting out.... so it may be something like that or related.

Does it idle well?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 05:07 PM
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It won't even start at the moment and no it always idled high
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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Re: First Build

Could be alot of things man. Did you get it to your house?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Yeah just got it here
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Re: First Build

thats good! Are you planing on tearing it down or is it still a car you need to drive?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Re: First Build

It's my dd
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Re: First Build

dang. check the timing if you can. Have some one cranking it over and check it at the same time. Also remove the cap and look over the rotor and such for anything that doesnt look right.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 06:04 PM
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Hopefully its not a valve train issue.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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Yeah I hope not
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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Re: First Build

bought the magnum 1.6 roller tip rockers and high energy push rods last night so expecting them within the next week to arrive. I'm closing in on all the parts I need only a few more that I can think of is piston, valves, and valve springs. Waiting for this weather to break so I can start the tear down of the 3.4 and then have it bored out and cleaned up. Then start the swap.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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So i have just about everything now..... only thing left is valves, pistons, and just taking the engine in to get it bored and cleaned
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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Awsome. When you get that engine back from cleaning it will look like new. I was tempted to eat off of mine just to say it i did it because it was so clean.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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Re: First Build

Just bought the msd 6al ignition box...... Is there anything else I should get for the ignition to go with it?
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:09 AM
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Re: First Build

The only things I would suggest is a wire adapter and a msd coil.

You dont have to get a wire adapter as I didnt use one but it will make it easier to unwire the box if you sell it or have to trouble shoot the ignition system.

If you dont get instruction with the box you can get them off msds website for free. Not to hard to wire it up. Here is a adapter iirc. Might want to double check the application because I dont want you to get the wrong one.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/161079389728?nav=SEARCH
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Yeah I bought that adapter as well...... The car still isn't running and I think the icm army out again so I'm going to hook up the box to see if it does the trick
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:45 AM
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You still need a good working icm for the ignition to work correctly. Its common for those puppys to go out.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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Re: First Build

Great Idea subscribed, looking forward to seeing the pics when posted and reading what you've done.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Re: First Build

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You still need a good working icm for the ignition to work correctly. Its common for those puppys to go out.
yeah i've been through 3 in the last 6 months..... i use a decent amount of dielectric too and it still doesn't work. I think I might have some other wiring issue. But that will all be dealt with in the next month or so when I put the new engine in
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 90camaro355rs
Great Idea subscribed, looking forward to seeing the pics when posted and reading what you've done.
yeah its going to be a few years before the entire car is done but it'll be sweet when it is.
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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finally got the car back up and running so now I can atleast drive it until I get the new motor rebuilt....... the MSD box and the adapter wires came in so I think I'm going to hook those up this weekend...... do I need an MSD ignition coil as well with that setup?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 03:23 PM
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Re: First Build

Originally Posted by BiggTipp7
finally got the car back up and running so now I can atleast drive it until I get the new motor rebuilt....... the MSD box and the adapter wires came in so I think I'm going to hook those up this weekend...... do I need an MSD ignition coil as well with that setup?
It would definitly be a good addition. One like this would work fine its what i used with my msd 6+

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ms...make/chevrolet
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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got the whole MSD setup now and I want to install it on my current engine so I have a feel for where to set it up. I'm just not sure where to place the box at. I've tried a couple different spots under the hood now and nothing seems to fit/look right. Has anyone installed it in the middle of the dash under the two center vents?
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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the box is in and set up..... the quick connect harness made things very smooth and easy
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