whats the latest on the headers bro ?

 

yeah.... It's been a month since you ordered the die...

 

We waiting......ttt

 

I get the same answer every week I call. And this is rreminding me og the movie "The Money Pit" Kinda an oxymoron "3 weeks"... i am getting sick of this too guys. I want to install these damn things on my car and can't untill I get a few reproduced.

 

hey camaro d hunter think I might be able to get you to make me a set of headers and pipes for the rx7?

and you are getting a mandrel bend that can handle a 2-2 1/2 pipe?

 

hey man, id be ripped if i were you, but i see where your comin from, you cant really get them pissed at you or theyll just take longer.


-Bruce

 

Sadly enough the Bender that is sitting in my living room collecting dust can only handle 2"OD. I was looking at another bender by the same company that could do 3"OD but it was far more then I was willing to spend at the time.

Dead thanks for hangin in there man. And I do rip them every week that I call for an update, maybe thats why I am still wainting. Hmm Maybe I should stop doing that....

 

are they the only company that makes the die? have you paid for the die yet? find another company, even if it costs more, tell them that you tried ordering from company X, they had no cusstomer service or clue as to when they would rovide the item. Ask if they can accomidate you for a comparable price on the die. They may just gain a customer for more than just that 1 piece.

 

Just be patient .Sometimes it takes a business a little while to get off the ground .It will all work out Hunter , I know it will man .

 

I tried to reply to this at my G/F's school but the server locked up ... Anyway I wish I could go to another company to get the die, but they desinged their machine around THEIR die. Catch 22 for the consumer(Me) I am stuck with them. And If I would have known this before hand I would have went elsewhere to get the stuff. I am truely fed up with these guys trust me.

I mean imagine how many sets I coulda had out by now? 15-20 maybe? That's good for you guys cause you get the headers and for me the main reason why I decided to do this the $$$ to be made. At least I'm honest about that. SO this company has cost me $$$ cause I am waiting on their slow a$$es to get me this damn die!. Sorry venting now....

I am sick of these people. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Anyway I(we actually) have been patient this long, and I WILL get the die as it is already paid for so......... it's a waiting game as it's always been.

 

how bout something like this?
only a 2 inch OD pipe but needs to be mandrel bent and have a thick *** flange which if you need I can get to you



damn 2 inch od pipe for my headers on a 80cid motor

still think that is HUGE

 

If you can get me specifics thats no prob at all. Seems easy as hell actually.

I need 90* refrence, to get the angles on the flanges and such, Can the tubes be run Side by side? or do they HAVE to be apart for clearance reasons? Anyway, after I get the Die(s) I will ask again. Or just 'mail it to me. Addys' in the profile.
Eventually I would like to even make STB that will fit for sure and can be adjustable even, but yet like many of the projects I am taking on will be a while.(sooner then some of the others for its ease of designing/building) but a while none the less.

 

I can get most the specs on what to do with them
just curious what is the thickness of pipe you would use

wankels have a lot of heat that go through them (hence I spit flames out my **** when I shift) and so need something that will not warp
the flange alone is about 1/2-3/4 inch in thickness

as for running them together sure you can do it the only reason they didn't is to get runners the same size

how much would you plan on chargin for these?

 

good G O D 3/4 flanges! Man they MUST HAVE A *HIT LOAD OF HEAT!. but the tubing itself will be (if you want the same type of metal as the headers for the third) are 1/16" thick. How thick are those? Or does it even say?

As far a a price... Dunno. Depends on the cost of the metal you want to use. For the 3rd gen headers I am using a steel alloy that I can get for around a buck a foot. If you want the stainless steel like the pic its closer to 4-5 a foot maybe more depending on the thickness(guage).

Is this a stock type "header" that I can get from a junk yard to use as a "mold" kinda or is that a custom jobbie?

 

ah crap the devils number on my post count right now


but it is not a stock type header. lol that thing is fugly.

double checked the flange and it is half inch. though the exhuast temps on these cars can reach 1200*+ that is why it is nice and thick

as for the tubing they use mild steel with a .125" thickness

still need to take a look at the car though and figure out how to make it fit, since I want to make a few changes to the one that you saw in that picture, like moving the 90* bend a little further from the exhaust port, as well as try to figure out how to make the whole system with as few of bends as I can manage

 

Thats cool. The 1/16" translates into .068? I think, so the tubing that I am using for the F-Body headers would not work probly. I deal alot with Aircraft Spruce (www.AircraftSpruce.com) they have tubing. You could go there to see what kind, sizes you want to use, then I could order that to use.

Ok Question, the "stock" pipe fills the same area, and deminsions right? Could I use that as a rough model? or would it just be way off?. If I could get the "stock" pipe and lay the tubing beside to get the same movements/transitions it should work right? Then I could just have the 2 tubes run side by side with bars welded to them to give support.

Does this sound doable? Again this is still waiting on the the die to arrive for the 3rds first, then after some of those get sold I would have the money for this one off tube(your lucky I am wanting to do stuff with 2" later) or I could not justify spending $250 to make these probable 70ish setup.... LOL Joking...

 

stock pipe wouldn't work

here is what the stock "think" looks like

 

I'm a thread *****

 

and you guys think your exhaust sux

this thing is made to hold the exhaust gas in there

it for the most part is something with to HUGE holes that go into a big open chamber like a plenum and this way the exhaust will stay in there for a moment and have a little longer to burn before it goes out the exhaust pipe

then to top it off stock there are three cats that are after this



and hey I am sure that I couldget you some more rx-7 ppl that would buy this if this works out well.


still need to take a look at the car though cause I still want to do a one off from what the racingbeat one is


just hope I can figure out how to get it all to work

 

RX7,

Ware did you get the boat anchor?!?!?! JK

 

just to give you an idea of size there
the hole that you see ( two of them) are 2 - 2 1/2 inches

these come of the block itself

hehe
about the same size as the collector on a v8 motor


whole thing is about a foot or longer and about 4-6 inches high

huge is all I have to say

 

oh yeah the temp I was talking about was wrong

on a EGT it would not be a shock to hit 1800*
that is about normal temps on a N/A about 6-18 inches away from the exhaust port

that is why they need the thick flange
and why my **** can spit flames

 

Damn; how heavy are those "manifolds" each???

 

with that much heat, why the need for 3 cats?

 

well for just the manifold about 23lbs
the main can is also about 21 lbs
then the 2 pre cats put it about 15 lbs


reason they have three cats is for cold start

the other two are right there at the exit of the exhaust manifold


they are all gone and instead using this header
but would rather go with a true dual setup rather then a 2>1

if I just had the money to swap out my drivetrain and rebuild my turbo motor

 

sorry took so long. The pic here? where can get that part. Thats what I need as a reference.(Or can atleast start there.)

 

problem with that part is it would not be near to what I am looking for at all
hehe I just have to make things fun

though that part can be found at a local junkyard that has an rx-7 there

I still need to get off my lazy *** and diagram the whole thing out.
but the pipes when they come off the header I am going to try to let go out a little bit further before they turn since there is a low of velocity in the exhaust and this way rather then put a sharp bend I can maybe keep it moving fast and get a nice low pressure zone behind it


sorry I know this is sounding like a pita
but I think we can make it work