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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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Ok I'm about to order a set of CCW LM5's for the IROC. i would "like" to get 18x9 and 18x11 what offset would I need to clear those and look right on the car. Also ordering a Strange-60 rear so If i need to change its length i can although i would rather not to. Thanks. here is the wheel. Getting it with poilished lip and either comp grey or hyperblack centers.

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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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I'm running 19x9 fronts and 19x11 rears. My fronts are a +44 and my rears are a +55...however, I'm using 2" spacers in the front AND a big brake kit which pushes the front out another 3/8", plus I'm running a 4th gen rear. Everything fits perfectly. That being said, I also cut out all my fender lips (front and rear) and slightly massaged the inner rear fender wells...but I'm pretty low, so you might not need to do that depending on your ride height. So, add my back spacing to my mods, and that will give you the perfect back spacing.


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Ok I'm about to order a set of CCW LM5's for the IROC. i would "like" to get 18x9 and 18x11 what offset would I need to clear those and look right on the car. Also ordering a Strange-60 rear so If i need to change its length i can although i would rather not to. Thanks. here is the wheel. Getting it with poilished lip and either comp grey or hyperblack centers.

I'm insanely jealous. I'm saving up for CCW Classics or LM10s.

Check this car out:
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I talked to a CCW rep and they said that was 18x9 and 18x10, couldn't tell me if the guy was running a 4th gen rear or 3rd gen though. They have all the info saved on this guy's wheels, and his pictures are hosted on CCW's gallery online. The tough part about ordering CCWs is there are no vendors, you give the specs straight to the producer. Scary.
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as for the dana 60, i would wait until you have it and make sure its the same width as what you have now, since my moser 9", at "stock" width is 1" narrower overall.....

also your front brake setup will affect this. With a typical floating rotor brake upgrade using stock modified hubs, not the 1le hubs which i believe are used as well with the c4 HD setup, you would be looking at 5-5.5" of bs in the front, 5" being about flush with the fenders and 5.5 being tucked a little.

rear, with the 11's i personally would like to see 7.5", since that would keep the wheel in the same place as a stock 16x8 "front" wheel on the back of the car, but thats going to require some serious sheetmetal work, apparently 7" will work on a stock width rear with some basic clearancing of the front lower part of ythe wheel well and some cutting of the bump stop area, but the tire will be about flush with the outside of the car.

All of this fitment can be accomplished with a straight edge and a tape measure, which is what i HIGHLY recommend you do. This will show you what will need to be clearanced and where the wheel will sit in the car before you buy them. Do it, im serious. Keep in mind that wheels are typically 1" wider than the advertised width, so a 18x9 will be about 10" wide and a 18x11 will be about 12" wide overall, than figure 1/4 to 3/8 for tire bulge.

On a side note, i love that wheel, and its on the list of wheels that i want for my 92 ones it gets closer to needed them, and i find a money tree....
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Re: Ordering CCW's Finally, need some help.

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Check this car out:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shocker...th/5806353584/

I talked to a CCW rep and they said that was 18x9 and 18x10, couldn't tell me if the guy was running a 4th gen rear or 3rd gen though. They have all the info saved on this guy's wheels, and his pictures are hosted on CCW's gallery online. The tough part about ordering CCWs is there are no vendors, you give the specs straight to the producer. Scary.
from the pics, it looks like thats a 3rd gne width axle, but if you get the specs of the wheels, it will be pretty obvious what rear is in the car, the 3rd gen would have about 6 of bs and the 4th gen would have about 7.5 on the rear. Honestly, those rear wheels are sticking out too far.
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I am wheel shopping right now also. I was gonna stick to the standard 18x10 which is what I have now, but I spent an hour or so this morning measuring for a 18x11. I have a stock third gen width moser 9"...which is actually stock length..go figure. Right now my 18x10's have a 6" b.s. They are very slightly tucked, not flush.....I would not push them out any further. If I stay with a 10" wide wheel I would change the bs to 6.25. With an 11" wheel I would go with a 7" bs. The only sheet metal that will have to be modified will be at the lower front inside of both wheel houses. With an 11" at 7" bs and a 315 tire it should leave about .5" clearance to the LCA.

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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
from the pics, it looks like thats a 3rd gne width axle, but if you get the specs of the wheels, it will be pretty obvious what rear is in the car, the 3rd gen would have about 6 of bs and the 4th gen would have about 7.5 on the rear. Honestly, those rear wheels are sticking out too far.
I'd bring the rears in 3-5mm and it'd be perfect.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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Thanks 406TPI think i'm going to go with 18x9 in 5.5" or 5" backspacing and the rears in 18x11 in 7" back spacing. Should call CCW today.
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Thanks 406TPI think i'm going to go with 18x9 in 5.5" or 5" backspacing and the rears in 18x11 in 7" back spacing. Should call CCW today.
Did you order them yet?
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Did you order them yet?
Yes i did 18x9.5 5.5bs and 18x11 in.... 6.5bs... not sure how its going to look buts its what CCW sugested
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Do these require spacers?
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 06:22 AM
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Do these require spacers?
For $3000 shipped they better not.
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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Yes i did 18x9.5 5.5bs and 18x11 in.... 6.5bs... not sure how its going to look buts its what CCW sugested
6.5 bs on the back.....are you trying to stay away from doing any sheet metal mods? According to my measurements 6.5 would be just about flush on the rear with an 11.

What's thier build time?
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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6.5 bs on the back.....are you trying to stay away from doing any sheet metal mods? According to my measurements 6.5 would be just about flush on the rear with an 11.

What's thier build time?
I'm going for Stretch poke..... LOL

All ready talked to my buddy who owns a paint shop... Going to pull the fenders this winter and paint the whole car, there already rolled a little.

He said give him 3 weeks.Which from what i understand is about normal but the latest someone has gotten a set is 5 weeks.
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I'm going for Stretch poke..... LOL

All ready talked to my buddy who owns a paint shop... Going to pull the fenders this winter and paint the whole car, there already rolled a little.

He said give him 3 weeks.Which from what i understand is about normal but the latest someone has gotten a set is 5 weeks.
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hmmm only 6.5" of bs on the rear? IDK, that may be a little outside the fender.

I defiantly want to see pics of the fitment and the wheels when they show up.
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hmmm only 6.5" of bs on the rear? IDK, that may be a little outside the fender.

I defiantly want to see pics of the fitment and the wheels when they show up.
It will be just outside of flush...but he is doing some body mods by the sounds of it....love to see pics when it's done.
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I'm curious how it'll end up to LOL. kinda wish i would of tried for 12" now but whatever.
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Originally Posted by 406TPI
I am wheel shopping right now also. I was gonna stick to the standard 18x10 which is what I have now, but I spent an hour or so this morning measuring for a 18x11. I have a stock third gen width moser 9"...which is actually stock length..go figure. Right now my 18x10's have a 6" b.s. They are very slightly tucked, not flush.....I would not push them out any further. If I stay with a 10" wide wheel I would change the bs to 6.25. With an 11" wheel I would go with a 7" bs. The only sheet metal that will have to be modified will be at the lower front inside of both wheel houses. With an 11" at 7" bs and a 315 tire it should leave about .5" clearance to the LCA.
If I understand this right, you are saying that a 315 tire will tuck under with just the front wheel houses being modified?
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it is my experience that a 315 will be flush with the wheel opening or just outside it without some work to the bump stop area, even then, its hard to get them under them tucked under the car and not rub. Unless you use some of the off brand tires that run a lot narrower than advertised....
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17x11 with 6 inches of backspacing - 4x4 look.

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Looks sharp!!
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damn those are sweet, but how do they fit?
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damn those are sweet, but how do they fit?
have not test fit the front yet but i did the rears. Still need some trimming at the bump stop and the fit pretty much flush with the fender lip. Will post pics soon. Not to bad and i'll get the fenders pulled soon also.
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Any pics yet?
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Looks good! What size tires you go with?
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Looks good! What size tires you go with?
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