does anyone know if the stock spare tire will fit over the 1LE front
brakes ?
and if not, where can I get that alum. spare? are they still available
from GM?

The 4th gen spares should fit, right? They have them LS1 front brakes that look pretty large.....

thx
Larry
almost there........

 

Larry, if you can hold on for a couple of weeks. I have a large photo and text section on my upcoming "CD" that is devoted entirely to the "spare tire problem".

I have attached a sample image (one of 50) to illustrate this problem. I apologize for the small size of the image. But file size limitations in this forum reguired it to be significantly downsized.

Thanx,ANDYZ28

 

can't wait a few weeks, my 1LE brakes are done !!!!

I have to locate a working spare tire pronto. I'm going to try the 4th gen LS1 versions.

and I swear my car has more -camber. I can visually seeeee it now. :rockon:

Larry

 

So will the inflatable space saver with colapsing sidewalls fit?? Or is that the one Larry was talking about??

 

As far as I have been able to determine. The only spare tire that will fit the 1LE brake backage is the N64 inflateable spare tire. This spare tire is often mistakenly referred to as "The 1LE Spare".

This spare tire is often aluminum, but also found in steel.

Thanx,ANDYZ28

 

I haven't been able to locate one through a dealership. However, I put an ad on this board's classifieds. I got about five or six responses within two days. The prices run from $50.00 to $125.00. I ordered one from a guy for $60.00, plus shipping, for a total of $89.00. One guy even sent me a photo. I would forward the photo to you but I already deleted it. It is a spoked aluminum wheel that requires a can of inflator.

 

I've owned my car for 13 years, and never taken out the spare. I carry a plug kit, and an air pump. I pull any nail and plug it on the spot. usually it works out until I have time to have it patched.

however, now I have to go out and see what spare I even have. and if it fits or won't fit.

13 years I never even opened up the spare tire compartment. I might not even have a spare for all I know

Larry
1LE with a/c

 

after 13 years I opened the spare tire compartment
it is indeed the inflatable spare. This is an 89 formula TPI. It has the little inflater cartage. so according to you it will fit. so my job is done.

I'm too lazy to remove it and trail fit the spare, so your word better be gold

now to beat on the brakes a little and see what they do I still have the OE prop valve in there. I'm curious as to how it will proform. If it is not to my satisfaction, then I will install the proper prop valve.


Larry

 

Dear Larry,

I'm not sure who you are responding to, so just in case it's me, I thought that I'd better clarify. You said something about having the inflatable spare so it should fit. I checked all the messages and I didn't see anyone saying that if you have the inflatable spare it will fit your 1LE brakes. Just because you have an inflatable spare it does not mean that it will fit your brakes.
If you look at Andy's photo, it appears to be an inflatable spare and notice that it does NOT fit. I just bought an inflatable spare, but it isn't just any inflatable spare. It is specific to the 1LE.

 

Look at the post in which andy replied to what i posted.. It depends on which inflatable spare u have.. I didn't know the black 15" spare was inflatable...


This is true. however there are two types of spares. The one andy showed is the regular crappy spare. The picture below is what WILL fit the 1LE brakes according to andy, and is NOT specific to 1LE cars..

 

Let me try to clear up a few things concerning spare tires.

1) The spare tire in my picture is not inflatable. It is the stock "Space Saver" steel spare tire that came in almost all of our cars.

2) The only spare tire that I have found to fit the 1LE brake package is the N64 spare tire.

3) The RPO decoder says; N64 aluminum inflatable spare tire. This is not always so! While I was at the F-body gathering in Atlanta. I saw an original 1991 Camaro 1LE car. As many of you know I am doing a ton of research on these cars. So I asked the owner if I could take a photo of his RPO sheet/decal, and see his spare tire. He said no problem. This car had the N64 spare tire, but it was steel. Not aluminum. And was inflatable.

I have an inflatable steel spare tire here at home. But the one I saw in the 1LE car in Atlanta was completely different. You could clearly see that it had been made to clear the brake package.

So the N64 spare tire is not always aluminum.

4) The N64 spare tire RPO was introduced well before the first 1LE car was made. I recently saw a 1987 IROCZ Camaro. It had the N64 spare tire RPO. I do not know why! But it did.

I suspect that it has something to do with the following; If the car has J65 (4wheel disc brakes), G80 (posi), and 16" wheels with 245/50R16 tires. Then it gets the N64 spare tire automatically. But I don't know this for sure. I can't imagine someone sitting down at the dealer to order a car, and saying "yeah, I want the aluminum spare tire".

5) The 1982 Camaro owners manual I have indicates that an inflatable spare tire was available at the time. It was steel, I believe the RPO code was N65 (steel spare tire). At some point a decision was made at GM to create the N64 spare tire. Why this is, I do not know.

I have pictures of all this on the "CD".

I hope I have been able to help.

Thanx,ANDYZ28

 

So is the one i have pictured the correct on?? I don't know if its N64 since i lost my RPO sheet..

But i have been TOLD, is that the reason my car has this inflatable tire, is because i have the limited slip rear end. And if i were to use the regular small 15" space saver tire, that it would wear out the clutches in the rear end if i were to use that small tire in the rear in no time due to the difference in tire sizes.. There are quite a few non 1LE cars that have this N64 tire..

 

let me make this more confusing to some. I have had 2 91z28's and my first one had the aluminum spoked spare tire like the one in the photo. the car was not a 1LE and it had rear drum brakes. it did have the G92 option if that matters. I now have another 91z28 and it has the steel crappy tire. the only differnce between the 2 cars was that the first one mentioned had a 350tpi auto. the one i have now had a 305tpi 5 speed. i still have the "1LE" spare from the first car. Maybe I will compare the 2 and post measurements of the center hub and stuff.

 

Does your current '91Z28 have the "N64" RPO code?

Thanx,ANDYZ28

 

Im gonna check on that tomorrow along with the spare tire hub sizes and stuff

 

my 1989 STEEL N64 spare inflatable tire fits over my 1LE brakes, no problem.

so contary to popular myth, the N64 listed on my spid sticker is steel, not aluminum. It's inflatable, and yes it FITs over my 1LE brakes.

after 13 years I have to remove it from the compartment. just to solve the mystery.

and to answer the question about the aluminum spoked spare tire. that was made to save weight, not because the other N64 wouldn't fit.

and yes I am the orig owner, so the spid sticker and spare tire is original.
Larry
w/ N64 STEEL spare tire that fits all 4 courners.

 

that and it looks cool

 

Larry, So apparently the N64 spare tire was "steel" from '89-'92?

I am glad your search has ended.

Thanx,ANDYZ28

 

N64 prolly means inflatable spare tire. either steel or alum depending on other options.

just like QLC only means 16" rims. there are many versions of 16" rims

 

OOHH...me me me! My Iroc came with the aluminum spare and an aluminum driveshaft but is no 1LE. I think it was a package deal or something.

Ed