how long have you been prom burning?
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Car: '87 IROCZ
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9 months and still have a lot to learn!
I have learned alot, I have gone from an idiot to a retard. Now I know just enough to be dangerous.
I have learned alot, I have gone from an idiot to a retard. Now I know just enough to be dangerous.
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Car: '87 Camaro IROC-Z
Engine: 385 HSR
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Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
I started burning proms for my ol' 305 in August of 2000 and got it running great after a few dozen revisions or so (didn't keep track). I then installed a 355 last June and am on revision #42, with each including a few to several changes. Now that I'm using Craig's software to log data and look at it in Excel, I'm finding more things that I need to perfect.
Grumpy's been doing this since the car was invented from what I've heard.
Grumpy's been doing this since the car was invented from what I've heard.
I have been burning for about 6 months.I have burned over 100 times easily.I have read every scrap on the net about it too.I'm just trying learn more about my prom buddies.It seems like I've emailed everyone before.
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Re: how long have you been prom burning?
Originally posted by formula5
I'm going to try a group discussion here
.Like grumpy,how long have you been burning?
I'm going to try a group discussion here
.Like grumpy,how long have you been burning? Editing info., was really shallow back then.
Doing the Programming 101 stuff a few years ago really sparked things to life.
I'd done 400 bins to get my 747 TBI'd Cross fire right.
Also lost count of the bins, I've done but several years ago was over 1,200.
Toss in the ecm bench stuff, and the numbers get really huge.
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I've been into this for almost a year. About when I got my new engine I figured I should do my own eproms.
The custom eprom is for the hot rodder. The guy that will never be happy unless he can play with things. Tinker tinker just with a computer, not a messy carb
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You know you're really involved with eprom burning when you start thinking about how you would need to change the eprom if you did some crazy engine swaps or if you did this or that mod.
It's all good.
Grumpy, how/why did you get involved with eprom burning/tuning?
The custom eprom is for the hot rodder. The guy that will never be happy unless he can play with things. Tinker tinker just with a computer, not a messy carb
.You know you're really involved with eprom burning when you start thinking about how you would need to change the eprom if you did some crazy engine swaps or if you did this or that mod.
It's all good.
Grumpy, how/why did you get involved with eprom burning/tuning?
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Originally posted by formula5
what about you glenn?
what about you glenn?
Finding companies that were willing to sell me all the parts and equipment AND ship it to Canada was the hardest part. I finally got all my equipment back about 18 months ago and I have burnt well over 250+ eproms for my car since that time. And probably another 100 helping/experimenting with friends' cars.
A lot of my tuning knowledge comes from working on cars back in the 70s and motorcycles in the 80s and 90s (until I had an accident). Unlike a lot of "die hard carb guys" that are frightened by EFI, I embraced it because I could control my spark and fuel WAY BEYOND anything I could do with a carb/mech. dist.
In my opinion, DIY Prom Burning should also be called "EFI Tuning" as the "mechanics" of eprom burning is really quite simple as almost EVERYONE who gets into it finds out. It's the tuning that is takes the time.
Could we get the board name changed to efi programming and or efi tuning?I think your right about the "prom burning", Glenn.Actually there are endless devices that uses proms.So prom burning does'nt quite capture what we do here.Prom burning has evoled from simple archaic thing to a virtually infinite tuning ability.
I have also used carb/mech distibutor setup in the past.Thats what I grew using.But I'm not dumb and knew a mailorder chip would never be optimum for my ride.Bsides I add mods when I get more funds,ahh the hot rodders plight.I dont want to pay ed wright for the wrong chip.After every major mod that would add up.Sheet I could buy so much for my car for all that scratch.
I have also used carb/mech distibutor setup in the past.Thats what I grew using.But I'm not dumb and knew a mailorder chip would never be optimum for my ride.Bsides I add mods when I get more funds,ahh the hot rodders plight.I dont want to pay ed wright for the wrong chip.After every major mod that would add up.Sheet I could buy so much for my car for all that scratch.
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4 w/TransGo
Axle/Gears: BW 9-bolt w/3.73s
I would say about a year for myself. I started doing the research on the subject early last winter, then started investing in the hardware over the winter, and did my first chip. I think I am up to 23 burns so far. I know it don't sound like much, but I don't run the car from december to april. Besides it takes time to test and observe how the motor reacts to the changes that you make. I had the scan tool and laptop long before I started burning. So I was setup nice for the burning. I would like to burn some chips for some local friends.
I started in fall of 99.
I was trying to buy the TTS stuff for the 85 870 ECM about $350-400 at that time.
I was alos debating on the 7730 then also. I couldnt decide right then which one to buy so I held off afew months. Then I got wind of GMepro. So I the cost was somewhat cheaper so I picked up both 85 and 90-91 epe files.
Good thing I bought the 90-91 also because I burned one chip for my 870 ecm and then the following weekend swapped in the 7730 . I have it setup for either one but have not switched back since
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I was trying to buy the TTS stuff for the 85 870 ECM about $350-400 at that time.
I was alos debating on the 7730 then also. I couldnt decide right then which one to buy so I held off afew months. Then I got wind of GMepro. So I the cost was somewhat cheaper so I picked up both 85 and 90-91 epe files.
Good thing I bought the 90-91 also because I burned one chip for my 870 ecm and then the following weekend swapped in the 7730 . I have it setup for either one but have not switched back since
Dennis
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