slammed_z

im really looking at air ride in spring...so anyone got pics basically saying kandied91z can you post pics of your car from the side view with the air ride all the way up...and most needed i really wanna see how it looks all the way down.....or if someone else knows of any camaros bagged please post pics

thanks

slammed_z

any help here guys?

nolanr0413

just shoot him a pm and he'll answer , hes really good about that stuff.

kandiedreams

or do a search on air ride....

i found this for you.



http://www.ridetech.com/projectview....2696&SUBSYS=CC

your wheel offset/width, exhaust and front suspension will determine how low you can go. you will need to relocate your factory bumpstops if you want to go really low.

slammed_z

thanks man

well i already cut off like .5 off my rear bump stops

and i got 18's with very low pro rubber on the way so i guess ill measure it up then

slammed_z

well i like how high it can go
but i need an all the way down pick
cause i wanna know to do the air strut like he did or the actually air bag ...cause that doesnt look to low up front for all the way down...i gotta be laying frame!!!!!! lol

Kandied91z

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if read the captions. 4" exhaust and lt's you can't lay frame. unibody car with low 91-92 gfx you can't lay frame.



low profile tires aren't going to determine how low you can go. your width of your rim and the offset/fender relation is. you can go as low as your strut/shock assemblies let you. even if you were to run bags all around you would need to run a shorter shock shaft in the rear as well as a shorter strut assembly in the front or drop spindles that relocate the strut location to allow for a lower drop. after you've done all of that you are going to need to rework your exhaust, redesign your crossmember and work on your k-member if you want it to "lay frame".

do some more research on the subject and the various parts. then make your decision.

Kandied91z

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if you want it lower then this consider headers to not be an option...make sure your front wheels aren't any wider then 8.5" and you have the correct offset.

for the back don't go any wider then 10", cut your bumpstops and have correct offset. beyond that run pretty much stock exhaust so you don't crush it over the axle when lowering and you'll be set. standard shocks and bags will allow you to sit the gfx on the ground....the exhaust will hinder you.

the front is the most tricky part of the process. i had to use a shorter strut assembly. had i used drop spindles that would work too but they are no longer in production so try to get lucky and track a set down.

once you do all of that your k-member, cross member will be the only things you'll need to work on. using a tubular k member i was fine but my cross member had to be reworked. it's now shaved and plated just in case it does drop too low.

also word to the wise if you can set your car on the ground that low you probably don't have bumpstops since you won't have a location to do so that low....if this is the case either put a cage in your car or don't drive to fast. if you were to have a blow out you will ruin your car and possible hurt yourself/others which will result in a major lawsuit.

just use your head about it....you can go lower, in the pic the car can go lower but in my application i'd crush my 4" exhaust over the rear axle and bend up my lt's.

slammed_z

thanks kandy....ya like i know its almost impossible to have a 3rd gen lay frame i was just jokin.....like i probably can lay my cross member down with bags up front cause its very close already....and ya i only got a 2.5 exhaust...i didnt know you had 4inch so i can completely understand why your back doesnt go to low...i wouldnt wanna screw that up .....that pic didnt help me to much...cause it almost looks as low as mine now...i dont want it to sit to much lower cause ill start smashing me oil and tranny pan.....i just wouldnt mind like .5 more in the front and 1 inch more in the back....i think i already can i just was curious

heres a better question...with your air ride down as far as you go...how low does the center of your front peice sit from the ground on flat pavement.....mine at the very center on smooth ground sit 4.5 inchs


and a low profile in a way can make you go lower...cause if you go from like a 50 series 16' rim to a 40 series 16' that will lower your car..like mine should be the same i got a 50 series on a 16' now but ill soon have a 35 series on a 18' rim.but ya i know offset can screw ya over thats why i hope my new rims dont stick out to far cause the offset is not for my car so ill see with the spacers

slammed_z

btw man i still think you got one of the sickest 3rdgens ever i friggin love it
btw where did you mouth your air tank...cause i got a stereo in the trunk so i almost though about putting my air tank on the back seat

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

my air damn sits on the ground...i've had to shave it 1" from factory as well.

yes a low profile tire can lower the height of your car if you go smaller then stock dimensions...this is true but it isn't the proper way to do it and you could take a chance on bending a rim in the process. especially with 18+ sizes.

the reason offset is important is so that you don't take out a fender when lowering the car.

as far as the air tank...it's in the lower well. if you put it in the back seat plan on running a long line for your compressor unless you go belt driven as it will be loud.

slammed_z

ok thanks man...ya i know those air compressors are loud my buddys is soo annoying after while and its in the box of his truck

what do you mean your front air damn sits on the ground? i can see like 2 inchs cause the cross member would bottom out before that...
you got a pic of that?

slammed_z

ok thanks man...ya i know those air compressors are loud my buddys is soo annoying after while and its in the box of his truck

what do you mean your front air damn sits on the ground? i can see like 2 inchs cause the cross member would bottom out before that...
you got a pic of that?

slammed_z

delete one of those posts i dont know why it did that

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

Jeff is talking about the lower black AIR DAMM plastic piece under the fornt of the car. Not the lower valance / gfx.

heres a good picture of the front of his car.
http://s89724942.onlinehome.us/image...e/P6280042.JPG

http://s89724942.onlinehome.us/image...e/P6280041.JPG

TONS MORE PIC"S on my server here.

http://s89724942.onlinehome.us/images/Kandied91Z/

slammed_z

oh ok thanks man cause i was gonna say the front gfx peice wow you musta done some serious mods to make that sit on the ground



in this pic is that how it sits all the way down?

slammed_z

oh and what size are you tires like 235/40-18 something lile that?

slammed_z

sorry nevermind i found another pic...


delete that last one with the pic.........i can see that is diffently all the way down...that looks tight

MrDude_1

i still have yet to see the pics im intrested in.


show me his QA1 struts where it mounts to the spindle.

show me where it mounts to the fenderwell.

show me the TECHNICAL stuff.. the pump mounted, lines routed, ect.





instead, all i ever see are pretty pics of the dropped car. looks great, sure. but you know, my car with cut drop springs looked that low too..... it doesnt show the air ride part that we want to see...

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

and your not going to....the car as of now is sold.


there isn't anything technical about it as nothing really changes and the air setup in the back is no different then any other setup you can find out on the net. they all have to be setup similar so it just depends on where you want to locate the pieces.

as far as the pic above, it's about as low as i can go because of the exhaust....it is no where near as low as it could go or really can go. i set it that way for a picture i was shooting.

the tires are 245/40/18 front and 295/35/18 rear.

you can not go as low as in that pic with lowering springs as you wouldn't be able to drive on the road. there isn't a strut out there that could take that kind of abuse. you'd have to change to nitrodrop shocks in the rear or something similar and a extremely short strut design in the front. wouldn't be worth it.

slammed_z

just the back you mean that is could go lower

the front is all the way down tho isnt it?


man you sold it noooo that was such a nice car..hopefully the new owner treats it good

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

i'm certain they will, i kept a few things off of it for my new project.

no, everything can go a little lower...it's air ride afterall, i just can't set the gfx on the ground. come on now..

MrDude_1

really? you going for another project car? or are you out for awhile?


eh, its the front QA1 part im intrested in...


i know you cant really drive it.. heck my airdam was on the ground.. we were just cutting the springs and screwing around. some jackass already put a torch to them (ugh) so they were trash... we were just looking at diffrent ride heights. screwin with the car and stuff....
i just wish the GFX were the lowest part. if they were, you could make it look like it was sitting down... since there are other lower parts though, thats not going to happen.

Kandied91z

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well the gfx can sit on the ground but you have many things you need to change and the likely fact of you having room for bumpstops in case of emergency isn't going to happen....if it's a show car that is never driven then it would work but otherwise it's extremely dangerous.

the next one will more the likely be sitting on the ground though. i'll still use the qa1's though as they work excellent.

slammed_z

oh i figured it was all the way down on the front
cause my cut spring are basically almost cut as much as you can and my control arm is basically bottomed out i only got like half inch suspension left on the front...unless i got those tubular control arms or drop spindals i could make the crossmember probably lay on the ground then

but anyways thanks for helping me out man...

slammed_z

is it gonna be another camaro?

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

yes..

nolanr0413

i cant belive you sold the maro , its so nice . get a firebird instead.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

thank you

i like my 91-92 z's...

MrDude_1

so you're going to take my advice and get a vert this time.... riiiight?

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

hmm....we'll see. i particularly like the hardtops myself however if i can find a good/unrusted vert shell then probably.

MrDude_1

look in texas, AZ, georgia, SC, heck all of the south. they're all over here, rust free.

i happen to know of 3 locally, 2 of them are for sale.

Kandied91z

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yeah but i'm not looking to spend more then 800 on the body. 2,000 max on a working condition version.