I know the twin turbo has been posted to death, but heres something I haven't thought of till toaday... For headers, just get some shortys, flip 'em upside down, and weld a plate on the end to attach the turbo too. I don't know about VC clerance though. Do ya think it could work???

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Uh, that one has been suggested.

Jester is doing it.
Here is a Mustang (or capri I think) guy that did it as well.

EDIT on 8/2/04: Link no longer valid

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blockhead, you have a web site with info on your setup? sorry if this is repetative, interested in the Turbo cars is all.

BW

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I tried that once. They fit a little better than I expected but no where close to what I wanted so I gave up on that one. I thought that you could rework them and get closer to clearing everything, but if I had to do that I was going to build my own anyway. Hope you guys can make it work out!

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No.

 

Somebody here on this board has already done that Here's a hint ... its an ICON member.

Tim

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What headers did he use? I tried with some cheapy Headmen, I think. I would not be suprised if their is a set that fit good enough to do this. The Headmen were just not going to work for me, but I am one picky bastard to!

 

I'm using Heddman headers for an S10 with a v8 converstion. I decided it was a better idea to make an intermediate pipe to connect the turbos to the headers rather than weld a flange on the turbos...but you might be able to do it that way.




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have you got it running yet?


BW

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Running yeah, not driving. I just did the first startup and break in a few days ago, has about an hour of running time on it total.

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Cool, let us know when you stark spanking on it.

BW

curious why you chose to goto a carb instead of putting on a tpi or somethign that might be a bit more happy with the turbo's?

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I converted to carb over a year ago because I couldn't stand fuel infection. Nothings really changed not to mention converting back would greatly increase the cost of the swap.

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I gotcha! jus curious

BW

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Jester, how do you have it plumbed to push the air into the engine or is that part not in the pic? it looks awesome I bet once its broke in and tuned up right it will scare the hell outta ya , I recall driving a TT 300 ZX and you had to hang on just to hold the steering wheel and it was a V6.

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Monte that part isn't in the pic. Actually it's not even built yet. It'll be really simple tho..just tubing from the turbos to a hat on the carb.

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jester, I understand your system now but thought that carbs worked on vacuum not pressure? and the smaller pressure(compared to efi) wouldnt allow a forced induction through rather than like a blower which pulls through the carbs? Im sure youve done your research but please enlighten me.
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yeah that's what i was thinking too. only way i could think something like that would work is if you ran a line to pressurize the bowl of the carb to make it intake pressure so fuel is still drawn out of it rather than air pushed in.

sorry if what i'm saying makes me sound like an idiot, the only experience with carbs i have is on lawnmowers.

 

You can push through a carb (i am talking about your generic Holley, not sure about a Quadrabog) but unless you put the entire carb into a box, there is a modification that you have to make to the carb for it to work right.

BW

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The fuel bowls get pressurized via the vent tubes anyway, you don't have to modify anything for that. You do have to boost reference the incoming fuel pressure somehow. The only other problem is a/f mix blowing out of the throttle shafts. EFI TB's do the same thing under boost, it's just not a serious problem because there is no fuel at that point. I've heard of people getting away with under 15psi without doing anything...but after that you have to seal or pressurize the throttle shafts. That takes some modifications. I'll be doing it myself..or the Carb Shop will do it for about $150

 

this may be kind of a dumb question but can you explain to me why you decided to put the carb after the turbos rather than a suck through type? i can think of a cople reason why this would be better, but can you tell me why you did it?

 

I am taking a guess here but you cant intercool w/a draw through system. & if you are doing TT that means Twin Carb & that means Twin Pain.

BW

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[This message has been edited by Bob Wooten (edited May 16, 2001).]

 

Draw throughs do have some definate advantages, and I've even seen twins drawing through one carb. But you can't run an intercooler, and actually doing the plumbing is alot harder. Plus..the turbos have to be mouted REAL close to the carb and intake...like over the valve covers, and I couldn't really plumb it that way

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I was wondering if you were using something like this to mount it to your carb or what? http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=27012

 

Turbos don't like little drops a fuel hitting them at 100,000 RPM. Tends to beat things up.

 

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You can get one through g-body.com 410 287-4370 be however they are pretty costly at 850. I have a 86 ss and in the process of doing a l98 block. Is yours a 383 or 355. Also what do you think about a turbo set up vs a ati procharger on a monte cost wise.:hail:

 

Both myself and Biggtime have G-Body cars with ATI prochargers and they work great. They are both fuel injected. You can check them out here:

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holy-back-from-the-dead batman!

 

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