I know the STB has been in the works for over a year now... was curious if he's made any more progress on it as of late...

Also... what is with the new Subframe Connectors?? I'm looking forward to finding out because thats what I'm buying as soon as he gives the go ahead to order again... I'm looking forward to them but whats different this time around?

 

First run of tubular SFCs are just starting. They'll be released for orders in about two weeks. Single cat version (shown) will fit any single cat set up, including SLP. We're finishing up the dual cat version, they will be available early October. We will work on a convertible version next.

The total set up weighs in at 24# compared to 40# on the old style boxed units.

We're about 50% done with the first STB (carbed)...TPI will follow. 2 and 3 point will be offered. The carbed is the most difficult, and since my jig car is carbed, we tackled that first. Once the carbed/TBI and TPI versions are done, we plan to make a third version for the Holley Stealth Ram set up (should be fun).

My jig car has the AC on the driver's side. The carbed cars with the AC on the driver's side are the ones the Edelbrock does not clear...correct? What I'm asking is if this STB clears my AC on the driver's side, it will clear cars with the AC on the pass. side?

Post carbed car pics with STB installed, I need some references to look at.

 

Steve,

What will the price be for the single-cat versions? Will you have enough to fill the wave of initial orders so we don't have to back order them? Thanks.

 

One thing I forgot. I have (4) pair of the old style boxed SFCs in stock ready to ship. Used up the remaining tubing we had laying around. They are single cat version, will not work with SLP single cat or dual cat. Email me for information on ordering them, or you can order them right on the website. Website says $0.00 but they are $155.00 and the site will figure out the shipping correctly.

Tubing prices have gone up almost 200% since February. The new tubular SFCs will have to be $185.00 bare or $230.00 powder coated.


Steve

 

That's why they aren't on the site yet. I want to get a pile built up first. You know I'm gonna get slammed at first, but with our new set up we can get them built up at a constant pace. You might have to wait a bit, but it shouldn't be too bad (I hope).


Steve

 

Steve, thanks for the info

hehehe can I have dibs on the first set of SFC's for my birthday? :sillylol:

the new SFCs look nice... lets us know when you get further on that STB... i'm interested in that as well

I'll see if I can hunt some pictures down for you...

How much stiffer will the new SFC's make an F-Body compared to the old ones?

 

Thanks much for the update Steve.

Much appreciated.

-Schultzy

 

if it clears one side as long as the dimensions are the same on the other side I don't think you'd have any problem with it...

Seems like you're going to be having a bit of fun with designs in the near future after you get the carbed one going

How much are you thinking for a "just an idea" type of a price to throw out before you finish? a lot of us have been waiting awhile, and I'm sure others will be glad to see you're getting further onto it probably took you awhile to figure out how to get things set up yes?

I don't have AC so i can't give you an accurate yes or no for sure answer on that

but I'll look for pictures for you

 

Steve, I had another question, since there are a few members out there with bigblocks in their F-Bodies...

how much of a problem do you think it'll be running your STB's with a carbed bigblock?

also, will the new SFC's need to have floorpan modifications or can you weld them along the floorpan like the originals?

Aaron

 

That is correct Steve. The way the Edelbrock STB is set up, it hits on the back of the v-belt compressor, being that the comp is run off the farthest in belt. The serp setup mounts the comp lot more foward. Some have posted that it hits only the metal lines coming out of the back of the compressor. However, when I tried to mount it, the STB hit the compressor itself. There was no way it was going to fit without major mods.

 

Steve,

I think I have a pic of my engine bay, A/C on drivers side. More than welcome to use if you want.

I'll send it email to you, and I'll send it to DemonZ28 to upload on this site too if need be.

Paul

 

paully... see that there attach file option under options?

hehehe if they're too big for that then no problem I'll host em for ya

 

pic one from paully... I hadda shrink it a little...

 

Pic 2 from paully....

 

Pic 3... from paully

 

Justin,

Ok, that's what I thought. From the pics I had dug up I was sure that was the case, but I wanted to be sure.

Just to clarify here guys, I have a carbed car with the AC on the driver's side. Ummmm....I can open the hood and look at my car to see the engine bay I wanted pics of those with those cars who have a STB installed . Thanks though!

Steve

 

We're not far enough along yet to determine pricing. I'll keep everyone posted.


Steve

 

Shouldn't be any problem with a carbed BBC. No floor pan mods, you see the shaft in the picture with the bends...that's the pass. side SFC and the bends are so it follows the contour of the floor pan.

Steve

 

oh yeah!!!!! I'm happy, I was going to order some SSM next week. now since your up and going agian, your getting my order. thanks!!

Josh

 

cool deal

any added stiffness over the originals? or just the weight/size different

 

Sent you a few pics of mine installed Steve..hope they can be a help in this project.

 

These are kind of dark, hope they help. I have since switched the car over to serpentine and the brace fits fine. I can get some pictures that way too if you'd like.

 

Will these tubular SFC's be as rigid and solid and basically as good as your boxed SFC's? Will they be better than the boxed? They seem like they wouldn't be as good cause they look to be just one piece. Or am I wrong? Will you still make your boxed SFC's? I just want to be sure i'll be buying the right one's from you for performance and durability and not for looks. But rest assured i'll buy from you.

 

not mine but..





https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/att...&postid=663359





u could probably do a search and fine a few more

 

Is that the GL STB? Its a nice one, though I only have the 2 pt. And for the craftsmanship, it was an excellent price.

 

steve,

do you have pictures or a description of the new sfc's? do they just go along the outside or are there additional bars besides the two side ones? thanks.

 

Nope, it was made by a guy on the boards a while back who goes by MRZ28HO.

 

he posted it in his first reply

 

heh, i think i thought that was a pic of a strut tower brace. where do the two small bars attach? do the main bars run parallel to the body seam or do they attach at an angle with respect to the seams? sorry, i just havent seen spohn ones mounted before and don't know how they mount

 

GL = George Lara = MRZ28HO

 

they run right along the rocker panel and I believe the weld right onto the floorpans as the other ones did...

the curved one is for the passenger side and the straight for the drivers side, and I believe the two additional pieces are welded up close to the crossmember ...

Steve correct me if I'm wrong please

 

I can't wait to get my hands on a pair of those SFCs from Sophn as soon as they're available, I've heard nothing but good things!

 

Those look nice...i'm also in the market for some SFC's....
I was going to go with SSM,but I think those pics are changing my mind

 

which are stronger boxed or tubular?

which are easier to install?

i know which are lighter.. but if the boxed are stronger and easier to install i would take one of your last sets.

i had a set of global west tubulars but sold em planning on getting your boxed ones, thinking they would be stronger and easier to install too.

let me know.

 

Theres another picture for u Steve. Its the Edelbrock STB. Might be a little to far though for u. Sorry.

 

Can you use the new SFC's as a jacking rail, or will the tube crush if you try to lift the car on it? I know they are stronger for torsional force, but what about flat like from a car jack?

 

Answers to these guys questions would be great.

 

I would they would be strong enough to put a jack under them, but it might slip off easier since there tubular?

 

again? stronger? easier to install. see post above.

 

E-Mail steve spohn and ask your? then let us know the anwers. i have been looking to see what the answer is myself.

 

Don't be too impatient with Steve... he gets around to the boards when he can, I was surprised he responded so quickly to my questions, eventually he'll get to everone

 

Yes they can be used for jacking. Installation is the same as before. Based on emails I've been getting it seems people are thinking because they are tubular SFCs they will look like MAC, Alstons, etc. This is not the case. The new SFCs run the exact same routing as before and tie in at the exact same locations as before. So yes, they can be welded along the entire length to the floor pan just like boxed style could be. Once I get some installed pics up it will all make sense...you know what they say, a picture is worth a 1,000 words I'll even take some pictures of the car jacked way up by the SFC!!!!

Steve

 

::drooling for pictures:: I was over to the Spohn website earlier today and I saw the setup for the SFC page was a little different. No price is mentioned yet, but it now has drop down boxes and such, but still says that you're not taking pre-orders. I was just curious. I can't wait to order some!! :hail: :lala:

 

AHHH. finally someone is making a stb that fits my car...the Edelbrock stb doesn't fit my cat, I also have the drivers side mounted AC. WOOHOOO

 

I'm sorry i got lost reading all this info


what are the differences between the new and the old modle's,
when will they be avail, and for how much????????


:hail: :hail: :hail:

 

I believe Steve stated $185 for bare , $230 for coated, because costs of the tubing has went up quite a bit lately...

the new ones are tubular, not boxed like said old ones, mount in the same way, and they're a bit more rigid as well

 

And they will be available the middle of Sept.

Would you believe late Sept ?

 

thanks

 

Ok, gotta couple of questions about the SFCs

Currently I have no CAT.... but I intend of putting a 350 in my car and not sure what I'm going to do with the exhaust, maybe duals?????

Next, shipping charges? across the border, anyone have experience with typical shipping charges to Vancouver or anywhere else in Canada..

 

Any updates on when the first tpi STBs will be available?