After finding wisdom on ebay, i realized this board has no future.. ;)
After finding wisdom on ebay, i realized this board has no future.. ;)
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From: Shawnigan Lake,B.C. Canada
Car: '84 Trans Am
Engine: 350ci Sportsman heads, B&M blower
Transmission: Turbo 350
You are absolutly right!!!I could have a twin turbo T/A for about $50
Everyone who doesn't jump on that is a sucker.....
Everyone who doesn't jump on that is a sucker..... Supreme Member
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From: Indianapolis, IN
Car: 2000 Trans Am
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
Random Thoughts from someone who has already purchased one of these: 
Are you interested in parts that will actually DO something for your car instead of this load of horse dung?
Are you interested in actually GETTING boost? Something that will actually ADD power instead of this ****?
Does the thought of over heating your engine with a turbo kit keep you awake at night? No need to worry about this because it puts out less heat than an oldfassion turbo with an intercooler.[/quote]
Does the thought of actually making some horsepower haunt you in your sleep now?
What kind of boost ARENT you going to get with a REAL turbo?
I dont know what is worse. That there is a seller actually trying to market this as something more than a piece of garbage, or that someone has actually BID on it!

Dont waste money on Greddy, garrett, XS, Drag or other turbo products that cost $1500, $2500, $3500 or more for a product that is hard to control, does damage to your engine, and costs a ton to maintain, this is a one time cost that will never need more than a new air filter.
Do you want to go Turbo but are worried about over boosting? Dont worry about it any more with this.
Does the thought of over heating your engine with a turbo kit keep you awake at night? No need to worry about this because it puts out less heat than an oldfassion turbo with an intercooler.[/quote]
Does the thought of actually making some horsepower haunt you in your sleep now?
What kinda boost am i going to get with something like this?
I dont know what is worse. That there is a seller actually trying to market this as something more than a piece of garbage, or that someone has actually BID on it!
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From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
my biggest surprise is that he has a good seller rating
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From: Orange County,NY
Car: 1982 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt
The level of stupidity in this world scares me.I have seen it all now!!Only on Ebay will some *** bid on **** like this!
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From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
I figured I would buy like 10 of them and make "dope" horse power, yo!
Originally posted by Jay87Z
People buy those things up like crazy on eBay. I'm surprised ebay hasn't shut down such and obvious scam operation.
People buy those things up like crazy on eBay. I'm surprised ebay hasn't shut down such and obvious scam operation.
plus it comes with s sticker that says "got boost"
lol
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From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
Im oing to sell this there then for $1000 reserve and for $2000 I will throw in one that sucks out the exhaust.
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From: Rochester NY
Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 baby!!!
Transmission: stock 700r4
i just had to send him a message about that stupid thing.here it is:
"this is not a question.it is me telling you that you are a COMPLETE FOOL and that you should burn in hell for trying to sell such a product on this great site.I feel bad for anyone that is actually STUPID enough to believe your incoherent rambling and WASTE money on this useless piece of TRASH.get a life and get a real job instead of trying to con people into buying POINTLESS PRODUCTS."
yes i was pissed because its people like him that created the whole R1CER scene by selling stupid and pointless products to dumbass kids and making them think it actually does something to their cars,when it doesnt.and in return us import owners get ragged on too,despite the fact that we have respect and know our shiznit and hate ricers ourselves.
ahh well i feel better after my rant.anyone else?
"this is not a question.it is me telling you that you are a COMPLETE FOOL and that you should burn in hell for trying to sell such a product on this great site.I feel bad for anyone that is actually STUPID enough to believe your incoherent rambling and WASTE money on this useless piece of TRASH.get a life and get a real job instead of trying to con people into buying POINTLESS PRODUCTS."
yes i was pissed because its people like him that created the whole R1CER scene by selling stupid and pointless products to dumbass kids and making them think it actually does something to their cars,when it doesnt.and in return us import owners get ragged on too,despite the fact that we have respect and know our shiznit and hate ricers ourselves.
ahh well i feel better after my rant.anyone else?
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Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
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Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
yes but DSM's like yours are in a whole other class of ricers, the fast ones. you know like WRX's, 3 gen RX7's, Supras, and the bikes of course.
Originally posted by B4Ctom1
Im oing to sell this there then for $1000 reserve and for $2000 I will throw in one that sucks out the exhaust.
Im oing to sell this there then for $1000 reserve and for $2000 I will throw in one that sucks out the exhaust.
Damn the fast and the furious.........
Can't wait for #2 which is being flimed......
you will easily feel large gains of up to 50 horsepower or more!
Get this product and a tornado air thing in the intake and you are looking at gains of over 70 HP.........to the wheels......
Sign me up.......
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From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
the tornado and that oil addative stuff and I will make 1000 hp
OMF G*D.... it's up to $88 dollars... for that much money people can actually buy something that WILL be beneficial to their cars... I bet it makes a cool sound though, kind of like an electric scooter at full throttle. Add that to one of those cool blow-off valve sound generators and you will have the BaDdEsT cAr On ThA sTrEeT
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Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
and you can put one of those base woofers that looks like a nitrous bottle they have now too.
I've seen blow-off valves welded onto air intakes before......
so nothing really surprises me anymore.........
.........every now and then i'm shocked such as the case of a electronic turbocharger that can outperform a T3 turbo.....
so nothing really surprises me anymore.........
.........every now and then i'm shocked such as the case of a electronic turbocharger that can outperform a T3 turbo.....
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Car: 84 SVO
Engine: Volvo headed 2.3T
Transmission: WCT5
Axle/Gears: 8.8" 3.73
Originally posted by B4Ctom1
my biggest surprise is that he has a good seller rating
my biggest surprise is that he has a good seller rating
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From: Rochester NY
Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 baby!!!
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haha heres his response to that email i sent him(posted up a lil bit)
"whoa, aren't a u an ***, first of all i have one of these in my car and it helps a lot so i'm selling them on ebay. i'm not trying to scam anyone. i think your the one that needs to get a life because if you have nothing better to do than accuse me of being something i'm not, then **** you *******."
ok yes i am an ***.now hes trying to tell me that it works?LOL what a loser.he claims that it puts out "450 CFM".doesnt an engine consume that much,if not more?i could be wrong,as i dont know the technicalities of engine theory that in depth,but i think im right.anyone care to elaborate for me?and if i AM indeed right,then yes he IS trying to scam people,although he may not know it.as he said,he uses one himself and it helps out alot
.so im thinkin that he THINKS it helps out and would like to help others by selling it.who knows.maybe im the confused one
.well if anyone cares to email him on the facts,here it is Snwboarder3322@aol.com.
"whoa, aren't a u an ***, first of all i have one of these in my car and it helps a lot so i'm selling them on ebay. i'm not trying to scam anyone. i think your the one that needs to get a life because if you have nothing better to do than accuse me of being something i'm not, then **** you *******."
ok yes i am an ***.now hes trying to tell me that it works?LOL what a loser.he claims that it puts out "450 CFM".doesnt an engine consume that much,if not more?i could be wrong,as i dont know the technicalities of engine theory that in depth,but i think im right.anyone care to elaborate for me?and if i AM indeed right,then yes he IS trying to scam people,although he may not know it.as he said,he uses one himself and it helps out alot
.so im thinkin that he THINKS it helps out and would like to help others by selling it.who knows.maybe im the confused one
.well if anyone cares to email him on the facts,here it is Snwboarder3322@aol.com. Senior Member
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That bastard needs to get his *** kicked. I can't believe this is tolerated. It's amazing that somebody can false advertise like that and get away with it. Almost as bad as that tornado POS.
If you want to get technical I can think of a couple cars where this works and works well. One obvious car was the Co2 cooled 91 firebird that was running at Bonneville.
Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
My personal favorite is running an intercooler on an NA engine...
My personal favorite is running an intercooler on an NA engine...
Last edited by JPrevost; Nov 18, 2002 at 05:51 AM.
Well... that thing is over $100 now. What a scam! There is on on e-bay for the third gen too. It flows 2500cfm, that's 500 cfm more than the F1r. I can't believe we have spent this much money on stupid superchargers, when this has been an option all along.
http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/w...tem=1872471122

http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/w...tem=1872471122
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From: Bluegrass State
Car: 85 Trans Am
Engine: LB9
Transmission: Finally Fixed (T5)
Axle/Gears: 3.27
I maybe mistaken, but the thing that he is selling is a ventilation motor for a boat, with an inline fan. It will build no positive pressure, and when it is off, it slows airflow
And it does make a whining sound. So now you have whiring pissed off bumble bees.........
And it does make a whining sound. So now you have whiring pissed off bumble bees......... In case anyone needs to be told this after reading this far: don't buy this piece of junk. It will not work.
Having actually built a prototype electric motor-driven centrifugal supercharger (I'm into it for roughly $10K of parts and custom CNC machine work) I can tell you that to move air at, say, 4-5 PSI in the volume needed to feed a small V8 engine takes a LOT of electrical energy. Thousands and thousands of watts. It takes more energy than any car's electrical system can supply- even with a giant "high amp" alternator. There just isn't enough juice to get the job done. Period. And that's even BEFORE you factor in frictional losses and blower inefficiencies.
Having actually built a prototype electric motor-driven centrifugal supercharger (I'm into it for roughly $10K of parts and custom CNC machine work) I can tell you that to move air at, say, 4-5 PSI in the volume needed to feed a small V8 engine takes a LOT of electrical energy. Thousands and thousands of watts. It takes more energy than any car's electrical system can supply- even with a giant "high amp" alternator. There just isn't enough juice to get the job done. Period. And that's even BEFORE you factor in frictional losses and blower inefficiencies.
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Car: 2018 Camaro SS
Engine: LT1 w/Paxton 1500SL
This will put out about half of what a T3 puts out eh? PLEASE, stop ripping off stupid people that know nothing about cars, your product is NOT a turbo, its blows some air, oh boy big deal, does it compress air like a turbo? I think not, join us REAL car people that have REAL turbos, enjoy seeing tailights...
Can't wait for his response
Can't wait for his response
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From: Rochester NY
Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 baby!!!
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yeah fly89 you def gotta post his response if he gives one.he repsonded to my first email.then i wrote back again and gave him the link to this post just so he could see everyone ripping on him.hope he paid a visit!hasnt reponded to me about my second email yet though
AOL chatting is the best.......LOL.......LOL
EDIT: I took out my Screen Name cause this guy has a link to this thread and i don't want a bunch of junk mail from him...........
Good thing this is the internet, cause there is no WAY IN HELL i could have kept a straight face talking to him in person.....
EDIT: I took out my Screen Name cause this guy has a link to this thread and i don't want a bunch of junk mail from him...........
Good thing this is the internet, cause there is no WAY IN HELL i could have kept a straight face talking to him in person.....
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He replied :sillylol:
i put one of these in one of my cars and it helped out a little bit so i'm selling them as a turbo, a boost is a boost no matter how u get it. and your the only thats gonna be seeing taillights because i have a 1999 3000gt vr4 sittin in my garage, and if you know anything about cars then you would know that it has a twin turbo, all wheel drive, all wheel steering and a 6 speed manual trans. now that i have made my point stop wasting my time with ur pointless comments.
My response back
Ok, and? You of all people should know,since you have a twin turbo car, that the product you sell is complete BS, it's NOT a freakin turbo, get a clue...
He responded again...
i know that the blower is not a turbo but it helped a bit in my civic and i'm makin money off of it
What a freakin tool
i put one of these in one of my cars and it helped out a little bit so i'm selling them as a turbo, a boost is a boost no matter how u get it. and your the only thats gonna be seeing taillights because i have a 1999 3000gt vr4 sittin in my garage, and if you know anything about cars then you would know that it has a twin turbo, all wheel drive, all wheel steering and a 6 speed manual trans. now that i have made my point stop wasting my time with ur pointless comments.
My response back
Ok, and? You of all people should know,since you have a twin turbo car, that the product you sell is complete BS, it's NOT a freakin turbo, get a clue...
He responded again...
i know that the blower is not a turbo but it helped a bit in my civic and i'm makin money off of it
What a freakin tool
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From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
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I made sure the winning bidder recieved this thread maybe he can get a clue before the paypal kicks through, 3000 GT = glorified stealth sure their are fast ones but I have more respect fo an eclipse since I have seen more of those that were fast than the 3000gt. He could have atleast BS'd that he had a supra or somthing.
Last edited by B4Ctom1; Nov 19, 2002 at 08:57 PM.
sigh, i saw this posted on another forum too, so i thought id come by here and put my .02 in.first off, this "electric blower peiceo'crap thingy" isnt going to push ANY BOOST into an engine. to generate boost, you need a positive pressure pump(a supercharger/turbo) a fan will not boost anything. it cant pump air and keep it at pressure. try this, get a fan and cub you hand over it.... any boost???? nope.
secondly exactly what is this crap made out of??? ABS PLASTIC. as if it was a marine bilge pump werent enough, damn near any engine will suck more air at WOT than this fan can provide, thus speeding up the fan too much and frying the coil, once that happens the blades will eventually shear off and get sucked into you manifold/cylinder. either way its a bad scenario... if it logdes in the maniold and melts what d o you have then?? a dead cylinder....
its people that try to rip people off like this that **** me off! they take advantage of people who dont know all about the way SH*t operates and then act like it will actually be benificial....... this guy should be shot dead..
Peace,
Andrew
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Car: 91 Camaro RS
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ok he told flynlow that he got about 10 hp aout of it,but on EBAY he says gains up to 50hp.is it just me or does there seem to be something illegal about what hes doin?isnt that considered false advertisement?and we have proof that he knowingly stated the TOTALLY wrong statement on EBAY.i really think EBAY should be notified of this LYING CHUMP and get his *** booted off.its just wrong on so many levels what hes doin.
and please a 300gtvr4?ohh noo watch out now!! because his MIGHT be one of the what,THREE quick ones out there?
"Hi i have TT with AWD and all wheel steering(cause all wheel steering really matters in anything but a Skyline GTR).oh yeah i also weigh 4200 pounds!!"please,gimme a break.
and please a 300gtvr4?ohh noo watch out now!! because his MIGHT be one of the what,THREE quick ones out there?
"Hi i have TT with AWD and all wheel steering(cause all wheel steering really matters in anything but a Skyline GTR).oh yeah i also weigh 4200 pounds!!"please,gimme a break. Supreme Member
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From: The State of Hockey
Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Miniram'd 383, 24X LS1 PCM
Transmission: TH700R4, 4200 stall
Axle/Gears: 9", 4.33:1
Ahhhhh but you all failed to notice his all wheel steering on his VR4!!!! After all, that is the true key to being fast.....

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$200 bucks for a POS airfilter?????
some people will buy crap just because someone else tells them that it works on their car.
later
biker
some people will buy crap just because someone else tells them that it works on their car.
later
biker
Last edited by BikertrashDude; Nov 20, 2002 at 12:54 AM.
elecrtic??
It's Electric... Boogy-woogy-woogy!
Seriously though, I got an idea that may justify this product. (OK, well, not really, but it might be neat to try).
Has anyone tried getting EIGHT of these things, and sticking them on the top of one of those old school stack manifolds? (The ones with the individual throttle plates and airfilters for each cylinder).
I was thinking that maybe by blowing one of these little bitches down each cylinder you might see something worthwile?
Seriously though, I got an idea that may justify this product. (OK, well, not really, but it might be neat to try).
Has anyone tried getting EIGHT of these things, and sticking them on the top of one of those old school stack manifolds? (The ones with the individual throttle plates and airfilters for each cylinder).
I was thinking that maybe by blowing one of these little bitches down each cylinder you might see something worthwile?
I was thinking of taking one of those big fans that you find on the side of the bench at a football game, mounting it on my hood, and creating a funnel to my TBI.....
The possibilites are endless...........
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The possibilites are endless...........
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Re: elecrtic??
Originally posted by Dzaw
Has anyone tried getting EIGHT of these things, and sticking them on the top of one of those old school stack manifolds? (The ones with the individual throttle plates and airfilters for each cylinder).
I was thinking that maybe by blowing one of these little bitches down each cylinder you might see something worthwile?
Has anyone tried getting EIGHT of these things, and sticking them on the top of one of those old school stack manifolds? (The ones with the individual throttle plates and airfilters for each cylinder).
I was thinking that maybe by blowing one of these little bitches down each cylinder you might see something worthwile?
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LMFAO- I told you dude, leaf blowers, get the gas powered kind because dangling a 1/4 mile long cord at the track really pisses them off:sillylol:
notice he said '99, when did they stop making the 3000GT's?? I thought it was like 98...
You guys are raggin' on my car man! Just cuz this idiot drives it doesn't mean it's not a good car. 3000GT has a lot of power potential. They are heavy, but meh...still sexy...
Anyway... '92 SL all the way :-)
350cfm!? I push more than that through my computer case to cool my overclocked processor...what's his problem?
If someone destroyed their engine like 89_Xr7 explained...could they sue for damages? Didn't the guys say it 'WILL NOT harm your engine in ANY WAY' or something?
A blown cylinder aint cheap man...
LoL...you know it really is pretty funny... before the r*cer age you didn't see anyone bolting on fans to push more air into their car. What geniuses we have modding cars nowadays, eh?
Last edited by 88ViperKiller; Nov 22, 2002 at 11:00 AM.
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 V-8 (for now ;) )
Transmission: T-5 5 speed
Axle/Gears: stock... whatever that means :)
Originally posted by B4Ctom1
I figured I would buy like 10 of them and make "dope" horse power, yo!
I figured I would buy like 10 of them and make "dope" horse power, yo!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!
:sillylol:
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Originally posted by 88ViperKiller
3000GT's last year was 99...
You guys are raggin' on my car man! Just cuz this idiot drives it doesn't mean it's not a good car. 3000GT has a lot of power potential. They are heavy, but meh...still sexy...
3000GT's last year was 99...
You guys are raggin' on my car man! Just cuz this idiot drives it doesn't mean it's not a good car. 3000GT has a lot of power potential. They are heavy, but meh...still sexy...






