I got a book for Christmas called "The Great American Automobiles" and I read that when Chevrolet was designing a new car to compete with the Mustang, they used the mustang concept to get ideas for the yet to be named Camaro. Initially the project was called the "Chevy Mustang" and was later christened the "F-Car" (the F reffering to Ford).

Has anyone else heard of the F standing for Ford?

 

Who inside GM does the book site as a source? If it doesn't site the source, does the author of the book list a contact email for himself in the book?

 

If you find that to be true, I don't wanna know about it. Just tuck that morsel of kowledge away and never speak of it to anyone.

LOL

 

GM uses a letter code to denote there body platforms for defferent models. Your book definition is . Wait for the replies.

 

Yeah...back there with "Camaro" being french for friend... ugh.

 

I find the idea that F-body was named after Ford ludicrous But I'm open minded about it so I would love to see some evidence. WHat if there were two GM projects, both derived from Ford? Then one would be the F-body and the other would be the F2-body
GT

 

Actually this would not suprise me one bit! THink about it here. The first Camaro went into production in 1967. This is when the Muscle car wars started. Things were very basic then Cubic Inches, and winning the race was all they thought of. So by them calling it the "F" body car to beat out a ford then that is cool...It's history man. Remember...technology wasn't the real big thing then...Horse Power was. I don't find this hard to believe what so ever. Cool artical in my eyes. Remember everything gets named after something. Just depends on what the influences it, in how you name it....

 

i am not too worried when i hear F-body i think of camaros and firebirds...

 

Well after reading most of the book, I found many spelling, and factual errors. And it is very poorly put together.

ex: when describing a mustang they wrote "The '87 'Tang... Out put from the 303 was up by 25bhp..."

Tang? 303?

Talking about a 91 Blazer "The 4.3-liter Vortex v6 engine was..."

Vortex? Isn't that some kind of Nerf Football or something?

There are many other errors like this. Funny book!

It also says that the 82 Camaro Z28 weighed 2870 lbs. Is this true? Seems a little light.

 

Just about as light as the info in your book. Not in favor of book burning, but I think you have one. My opinion.

 

If thats what the book has I wouldn't trust that they even have a picture of a mustang on the front. ^_^

 

lol not a bad idea, it was a Christmas present though

 

GM had started using letter codes like that several years earlier, and continues to this day. The Malibu/Cutlass/Skylark/Lemans body was A, the Impala/Catalina/88 etc. was B, the Bonneville/98/Electra/DeVille was D, the Eldorado/Toronado/Riviera was E, the F-body was... can you guess?, the Corvette was Y, the Nova was X. Later, the Monte Carlo/Grand Prix etc. was G, the Cavalier etc. was T, the Lumina etc. were W, and so on.

Has nothing to do with a competitor's initial. That person is full of dung, even if they did manage to get it printed.

"I saw it on the Internet, it must be true"

 

There is a very good chance that this is all old time slang. This book is probably built around the nick names things were givin in the late 60's He probably meant to spell Vortech..Vortex. You say ta^mato, he says tam`ato kinda deal. Who really cares. It is one persons opinion...doesn't mean he is full of it. People probably did call it stuff like that in the late 60's. Just my .02

 

I've always heard that F-Body stood for "fisher body"....just look on the door sills in the door jams of our cars...."body by fisher", but I've always thought that it the F in F-body was just GM's lettering system, like the G or Y bodies....

 

The camaro was going to be called something completly diffrent, Im pretty sure it started with a V. I did a big research paper in eight grade on camaros. Your definition as stated, is

 

go take a look in some other older GM cars, and you will see they also say Body By Fisher.............................

 

Typos? 302 was typed 303 by missing a keystroke and same with Vortex isnt it spelled Vortec? C is right next to X.

 

Chrysler used the same system and they too have an F-body I think it was the Aspen/Volare platform?

Wasnt the Cavalier/Sunbird/Cimmaron/Skyhawk/Firenza platform called the J-body?

 

That book sounds really incorrect. F is just the letter picked like all other GM cars.

 

yea, cavaliers and sunfires are definitly j body.

 

Well yea, let it go, no worries, I mean books don't go through proof reading or editing, they're just hastily typed internet postings so no worries right?

 

This thread is turning into a meaningless show of words. If you have any knowledge of cars, then you know the "F" is the GM platform code for the Camaro/ Firebird's. And if you did not know this, now you gained a little more knowledge on the subject.

 

Actually, its the other way around... when Ford built the Mustang, it was trying to compete with GM because they had the hot little car that laid down the law on Ford's cars (the Nova)

And the Camaro/Firebird was already being designed when the Mustang came out and its sales went berzerk, so GM just stepped up the pace and got them out a little quicker.

But its almost always been Ford trying to keep up with GM... Chevy built the Corvette, its did pretty well, so Ford introduced the Thunderbird, which could never really compete with the Vette as far as performance goes, but people snapped up T-Birds because they had the "cool factor" that Corvettes also had.

BTW, i think the F in F-body is just a random letter... cuz what kind of reasoning would make you name the Corvette the Y-body?

just my $0.02

 

Is your opinion $0.02 Canadian?? If so, its not worth very much.
.

 

LOL I'm Canadian, and I even thought that was funny. Adam the Mustang came out long before the Fbody cars did. GM made the Fbody cars to compete with the Mustang. I would recheck were you got your info from. Remeber the F body cars didn't leave the factory till late 1966. Mustangs were out long before that. If you knew your cars...the mustang was a makeshift performance car to try to beat the Vette. Which wasn't to hard if you were to compare it to the first two years the Vette was made. They were guttless sports cars. 1953 with a 4cyl. The T-brid will kill that first Vette. Not that I support Ford or anything. But facts are facts. And Adam...unfourtunately your facts are wrong. Sorry!

 

Also...on another note. Adam I advise that you never post such a rude and idiotic picture ever again. I happen to have a "mentally challenged" family member. And I'll tell you what I'll make sure you get put on probation the next time I see such a disregard for the less fortunate. DON'T!! post something like that again. And grow up!

In fact screw it...I just reported your post! That little joke of yours really pissed me off. What are you 12??? Oh excuse me I just noticed your 16...with your menatallity that is close enough.

 

Uhmm, maybe you should get your facts straight as well. The 1953-1954 Corvettes had 6 cylinders, never was there ever a 4 cylinder 'vette.

He is correct (kind of)! The Camaro was being designed before the mustang ever came out. I have a book that shows pictures of three early running Camaro prototypes based on the 1962 Chevy IIs. Ford beat Chevy to "the punch line" by releasing the Mustang in 1964, GM had to catch up to this. The reason for the Mustang/F-body was to compete against the growing (potentially new) sport cars that appealed to the younger crowd, but had more seating than actual sports cars. The mustang wasn't brought out to compete against the Corvette, they are in totally different classes (2-seater vs. 4-seater, IRS vs. Solid axle, etc ... ).

 

I always thought the Chevy II/Nova competed with the Ford Falcon.

 

Well I'm not 100% but I guess my old neighbours 53 Vette must be really rare then. It was a 4cyl. Unless he took off 2 wires to be different? Like I said I'm not 100% sure but it is what I saw. As for any of the other stuff I really don't care. It doesn't pertain to me really and everyone has their own opinion...and that is all it is for the most of us...a opinion. Unless your standing there with the original designers and engineers that made any of these cars mentioned, we all could be wrong! Books lie more then most politians. I believe almost none of what I hear and only half of what I see. Keeps me out of trouble Hey I may be wrong, you may be wrong. But Adam was most wrong by posting stupid pictures like such. I'm just a bit ticked because of his stupidity and uncalled for insults to the less fortunate. Who cares who made what car for what reason! They all got made, and that is really all that counts. Like said..unless your the engineer that designed these cars your info may be a bit off too. I'm not trying to fight or flame or call you a liar here either. Just the fact is nothing is 100% on this site..It is mostly opinions, and that is it.

 

Adam's completely tasteless pic has been deleted and this post closed. Thank you for reporting it. Enough is enough, boys.

Willie