redraif

Pics of the notch

Electron_Blue

wow that looks sweet.....anything new on the production process?

85SportCoupeto89RS

OMG that's sooooooooo sweet :hail:
Does it look like the notch will accept a 87-90 3piece camaro spoiler?

jawzforlife1

That look's nice, now I want one, Too bad I have to buy a house instead.

Dewey316

heh, that looks better than i thought it would.

maybe i will pick one up to have around in case i am in the mood

MetalliCamaroRS

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Looks alright.. sometimes I like the notch, other times I don't. Depends on the car and the angle I think.

redraif

The fiberglass guy has it and is going to be doing the mold very shortly. We are still trying to get all the hardware worked out... getting sources and finalizing costs!

So it should not be too long!

redraif

It should..it is made just like a standard deck lid in the rear where the spoiler would mount. We also decided to make then w/o spoilers, so you can add one of your own choosing!

85SportCoupeto89RS

Wonderful I'd love to get my hands on a 5inch 3 piece spoiler and put it on your repo notch when I get one.

billsfirebird

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That one looks much better than the GT Auto Accessories one. Looks real good and sound.

I'd have to see on on a Firebird for me to make a decision if I really like the looks of it.

Keep us posted!

Bill

admrlam

Yeah, id also have to see that on a firebird... It looks like the ribs going down the two sides are slightly taller than the stock ones, yes? Or is it just the pictures?

In any event, im a definete possibility ... Id like to see one finished on a bird though....

redraif

Yes the ribs do travel further down then a factory one, and not ridge in the center of the deck, but it does stay pretty true to the factory styling. Definately lower sides then any other aftermarket one I have seen!

300hpse

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looks sweet, ill have to save some money, and it looks like ill have no use for the roll out cargo cover, that should bring in a few bucks, do you know if theyll come primered or bare?

88txiroc

Here is a pic of my friends original Notch. Just something for you guys to compare to. If you need any more, just let me know.

DISTURBthePEACE

Does anyone have a pic of an the entire car w/ the notch back it from different angles? And also, that locks down in the same place a normal hatch would, right? and any idea on price yet? They look pretty cool, and it is definately different than anything around here, I wouldnt mind having one. Your putting that on your car, arent you redraif?

redraif

I wish I could have gotten some more full body shots, but the car we used was on a lift and there was a limit to what I could photograph.

still waiting on the $ figure...

Basically bolting it up will consist of taking your old hatch off at its hinges... Retain the hinges, the notch will use them. Retain your struts, it will use them. And retain the latch catch off the original decklid. This will bolt up the notch. Thats it.

As for its final production coating. It will probably be a gel coat of some kind. Not sure on color...grey or black...

1MEAN92RS

Check out the original thread...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=156753

Nice work redraif!

redraif

Thanks! You know it was odd down in Pensacola for the Stars show...I was actually asked about the notch I had gotten. I honestly had no clue that many people knew about it.

Freeze

nice! it's pretty close to the original

Justins86bird

So how much does it weigh, with and without window?

LT1guy

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We didn't weigh it (yet), but believe me, its a significant weight savings over the original hatch. I'd say maybe half as heavy. The rear window doesn't add any significant weight, maybe a pound or so...its just lexan or plexi.

I know one is going on Shannon's 82 TA, but I don't think she has plans to put one on RAIF. I may put one on my 87 TA, or the 85. Still undecided on that.

1MEAN92RS

I love it. See I'm thinking I could get one and have it painted along with my hatch when I get 1MEAN92 repainted this summer. That way I can have either one and swap them out depending on what mood I'm in I can't believe how much work you and Shannon put into your cars and towards helping others out here. Now, if only the guys working on the Jongbloed Hood replica could be as speedy as you two and Hawks have been with this. I don't think they are even in the pre-production process yet. Are yall going to the Thirdgen Nationals in Maryland? I've been kinda twiddling my thumbs, trying to decide whether or not I can afford to go (I'm sure Mark is getting frustrated with all of the people that are "maybes").

Later,
Harry

redraif

I don't know if we are going to go or not. Its quite a haul for us. Maybe if a group form GA wants to go I might. Time will tell!

A88GTANotchback

here

A88GTANotchback

another

Diabolical

i know that when there's any updates on this, you'll let us know, but i just can't wait anything closer to a price range or finish date?

redraif

Well Joe is going to be going to the carolinas for a job interview this week, so he plans to stop at Hawks and see how things are going. So hopefully the guy in Charlotte will call today with info on when the interview is. Then Joe let us know if he can go by and see how it is coming!

WillWood

Looks pretty good.

devianb

Notch looks great. If it were not for the fact that we have those large sail pilars or a lack of rear side window, the notch would look even better.


Is the notch lighter than the glass hatch?

TorchTA

The notch will probably weigh like...half of what the full hatch does now...
Just got off the phone with Bruce over there at Hawk's, and it looks like it'll be another month or two before everything starts rolling along like a bullet train. Apparently the fiberglass man had a death in the family (my condolences ) and now managed to come down with the flu. Bad luck all around there.
But yeah...from everything I gathered it's gonna happen for sure. He mentioned that he's probably going to secure pre-orders (probably 10-15) for the things with a security deposit (like Ronal did with the 'hawk wheels) and gave me a guesstimate figure of $100-$200 or so on that, with a purchase price floating around the level of a new hood...which works just fine for me, as I'm a guarantee for one.

So...start saving your pennies boys an girls, the notch is coming soon.

I should have a better guesstimate on the deposit/pricetag next week when i call back in, I imagine...

-JT

p.s. Thanks for gettin this goin Shannon. Makes me glad I didnt bid the notch up on Ebay. hehehe

Scania

Sweet car

MikeC.86Roc

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Just my opinion here, but I don't like those rear hatches, they kinda make the 3rdgen look like an el camino or something! I dunno, just don't look right to me.

I wish somebody would make a replacement decklid that used lexan instead of glass, now that would be a weight savings there.

redraif

I have actually heard about someone doing that...the back glass is lexan, but i have no clue who it was!

Mathius

Shannon,

Have you actually rolled around in the '82 yet with the notch on? I'm curious as to how much it cuts down visibility.

TorchTA, is this going to be like a third gen exclusive item, or are you going to be producing these for a while? What I mean is, is it a one production run or something? I'd like to get one but it may be a few years down the road before I get to using it, should I buy now? And these are definately non-spoiler deck lids, right? So we can mount whatever spoiler we want, or go without? I personally would rather not put a spoiler on my notch.

Oh, and lastly, are you going to add a third brake light somewhere, or will these need to be in the spoiler, or custom added?

Mathius

LT1guy

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Hopefully production will continue for a while, but the best way to be sure you can get one is to order it as soon as possible. Bruce's fiberglass guy makes other parts as well, so any production runs are going to be based on demand. They are going to be produced without spoilers, or any mounting holes, so you can run with or without. We'll verify fit with all the popular spoilers. There are no plans for a third brake light, though it would be easy enough to add one if you're not running a spoiler equipped with one.

redraif

Well the 82 is engine less and door less and seatless...basically its a shell right now, so I would not be able to tell much! But we plan to get the original back as soon as he is done making the molds, hopefully we can get it on the car and painted so that you all can see it to help you decide on it. I plan to take pics in the car as you would be looking in normal driving conditions. Rear view mirror, turning around, over the shoulder. Basically it will cause you to have a bit larger blind spot at the rear sail panels. the rear view should be fine... Honestly is is so close to the original that I would think it would be the same vision obstruction wise. Maybe some of the stock notch owners could shed some light on this...

The notch did not come equiped with a 3rd brake light. depending on the spoiler style, there aer different ways to add teh 3rd brake light. Someone who does not have a spoiler 3rd brake light (on the glass) They will have to route teh wire and probably get the hatch conectors from a 3rd brake light in the spoiler car. There is a pad on the rear cargo panel and a unit that attaches to the hatch that make contact. This contact unit has wires that are commonly run to the 3rd brake light in the spoiler either thru a hole in the decklid that meet the bottom of the light, or they will go thru a hole that meets the spoiler's leg & connects to the spoiler's wiring...

I'm sure these are all things that we can work out when they are produced...detailed instructions and pics...I have messed with a few spoilers and have had to rewire my own car, so I'm sure I can get something on paper for Bruce to put on the websight...those provisions can either be transfered from your car or Bruce can get them off a parts car, I'm sure! So it will have to be custom or get a spoiler equiped with one...

These notchs will be hole free so you can run what you want or nothing at all! For the no spoiler option...I'm not sure what could be done about a 3rd brake light. Honestly I don't think a cop would harass anyone about it anyway!

Mathius

I'm not sure on the third brake light without seeing the notch in person, but it looks like I could run some LED bars in the cowl part up where the hatch opens. I plan on the car being black, then I'm gonna spray the LED's with Nightshade. In theory, you won't even see the third brake light until it lights up. Of course I'm not 100 percent sure it will fit until I see the notch, like I said.

Mathius

spartyon

reminds me of a short el camino. not my taste. maybe if it was molded into the body but then you couldnt get the hatch open. i am partial on this one.

redraif

Sound doable actually...I beleive there is enough room. You will just have a ton of fiberglass to cut thru! Since that is a seamed area it will be thick!

gtabadboy

Here's my original notchback. Sorry about the pic, it's old and the camera was a piece of crap. I have newer ones but it's on my other computer.


heres some better ones with my TTII's

Mathius

How much difference in your field of view is there between a normal hatch and a notchback? I think there would have to be a bigger blind spot.


Mathius

Irhal

any updates on the notch back? I am about to order My RA II hood from Hawke and I was hoping I could get the notch back shipped at the same time to save on shipping fees... Quebec is far...

LT1guy

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Bruce is close to being able to start on a mold, but we need more interest to put it ahead of his fiberglass guy's other projects...basically, he needs to have some deposits put down to make it worth his manufacturer's while. Call Bruce at 864-855-2694, he can give you more details.

CaysE

I usually don't like the nothback either, but all of the examples I saw were on Camaros. I think it looks good on a Firebird for some reason.

Diabolical

what are we looking at for price? i don't know about everyone else, but i'm not about to put a deposit down, then find out it's got some rediculous price tag.

DreamState21x

I still wonder what that notch back would look like on my 88TA with my 4th gen spoiler...

admrlam

Im with you on this. Its something i think id like to do, and depending on what their idea of a deposit is, it could be feasible. But id need a much more accurate price expectation beforehand, as well as a much more accurate time deadline to expect it.

I know these things take time (lots of it), and money (lots of it, lol), but i just cant justify puttng a hefty chunk down on something we wont see for a year....

89Irocz23

know of anyone who makes these for 4th gens? I wonder how it would look on my 96 TA

Diabolical

i don't know of anyone that makes one for 4th gen's, but in my head that just doesn't look right.

hawksthirdgen

Hey guys we are talking about a 100.00 deposit and the retail on the knotch is going to be in the 600.00 range give or take a little and will be around 8-12 weeks to delevery once we get started and there some variables we can discuss when the guys that are serious give me a call.But just so everyone knows if we run into a problem and could not repo it everyone will get there money back but i am 95% sure we can do it,I just need to know how many are serious before we get started give me a call.
Thanks,Bruce