Well I got my 4th gen console installed and I managed to destroy one of my window switch upon removal. Eh... whatever.

So I went to the junkyard and found a two door 90-sh Saturn. I took the switches out and low and behold they plug right in! Buuuuuut, the nice feature is... the driver's side switch has a little LED in it so you can see it at night, and it has the very nice "auto down" feature !!! All of this for a measly dollar ? Hell yeah it's worth it! Pics coming soon :P

 

got to see the pics! It sounds like a very good idea. So the switch lights up, it has the express down and it plugs right in! What was the year and model. great find for a buck.

 

thats cool. So the auto down feature is controled by the switch? That is freaking sweet. Do you happen to remember what saturn model it was?

Brian

 

model would be a 91-94 saturn, sc or sc2

 

Yeah. It was a two door saturn. The switch has a tiny circuit board with a relay, and IC and a couple of diodes on it. That's what controls the "express down" feature

 

WHOA! i didnt know that! i always thought the circuit was on the motor....

kickass, i know of 5 of thoes just sitting in a local junkyard..... a scrounging i will go tomarrow....

 

hehe im mostly excited because that means i can express down the windows in my vert, AS IM LOWERING THE TOP!

 

There ya go! lol

 

Thats freakin awesome. I need to hit all the junkyards now. Any pics yet?

Brian

 

Cool, I can't wait to see pics.

 

Eagerly awaited pics as well......want to see how you mounted them in the 4th Gen console.....

 

im waitin for pics too

 

The driver's side window switch in my Z24 did that and it looks exactly like the switches in the center console of my IROC.

I need to find some.

 

These fit the thirdgen console too, right?

 

i'll try to pull you a set when i pull mine raggy...

 

Why not then try and find two drivers side switches to have both front windows have the express down feature? I had a car like this and it was a fantastic idea. I'll have to take a ride and see if I can find some as well.

 

Or get some swithces like BMW that have the auto up feature. That would be pretty cool, if they have the control box with the switch.

Brian

 

thats what im doing.


that way, i can start the car, tap the switches, and AS THE WINDOWS ARE GOING DOWN, release the top and drop the top on the vert.... it would save me a decient amount of time... even good 3rdgen windows are SLOW..

 

there is a DEI alarm module that does auto up/down and up on arm if you want. i think its the DEI 530T module. i just installed it and it works great. off the shelf its expensive but i scored it on ebay for $40.

 

PICS......:lala:

 

http://www.radiomancaraudio.com/deta...DUCT_ID=DE530T

 

just a couple questions....

-what do these power window switches look like?

-do they clip into the same wiring harness thats on the thirdgen, or do you need a fourth gen wireing harness?

-can the driver side switch be used for the passenger as well?

thanx for any help

 

thats awsome man great find

 

What would be even cooler than that is if you could get some auto down switches that go in a Bonneville (92 or later). They are a LOT smaller than the regular thirdgen switches, and would be easier to mount on the 4th gen console. I'm sure you could wire it up somehow! Matt

 

Check it out, I found this on ebay after reading this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6763

 

Pics of how you have it monted in ur console please.. I can pick these up for basically free... My neighbor works at saturn... PICS FAST BEFORE I MOVE and lose my connection, lol.

 

Does anyone know how the express feature actually works? I would've thought that it would need different motors as well. The regular switch is either an open circuit or passing +12v (give or take) through to the motor. How would these Saturn switches supply more than that without a fancy (and probably fairly stout) step-up transformer circuit? Unless that little PCB is bigger than I thought...

 

PICTURES!
ive been waiting long enough!

 

well not everyone has a digital camera or a scanner. I dont have either.. .so sorry. When I can steal/beg/borrow one I will take pics. Basically they look like the ones you see on that Ebay auction, but I unscrewed the two buttons from the main rectangular bezel and used JUST them, not the whole thing. Of course this wouldnt look too good in a stock thirdgen, unless you covered up the original holes and cut another two smaller ones for the saturn switches to go in.

 

wow... i need to start seeing what i can steal from other cars over at the yards from now on.. which i could find stuff like that more often... nice

 

Here's a diagram for how to hook up the saturn switches.

All the colored dashes are actual spade connectors on the bottom of the switches. Using a diagram from an fbody all you have to do is run wires between the new switch and the plugs on the harness that plugged into the old switches. A total of 6 wires.

 

hhmmmm

 

what color is the LED and any idea how difficult it would be to remove the express down feature? My dad's trucks and my mom's car has it and i can't freakin stand it.

 

Why the hell can't you frikin stand it ? Don't push the button far enough to activate it and it'll work just like your stock switches. Push down further then it gets activated. Pretty simple and smart if u ask me....

The led is orange and I'm sure it can be swapped out.

 

I think the orange led would be kinda nice, at least for a firebird. The dash lights are orange so they'd match, I haven't a clue what color the dash lights are in camaros, so who knows

 

personal pref i guess, i seem to be the only one, but i don't mind being alone.

 

Are these the switches? I have a 4th gen console and I think these would fit better in the little ash tray.

 

Can someone re-interpret that wiring diagram? Because mine dont' seem to match up w/ that one.

 

so wheres the pics at? its been like 2 months.

 

Again, can these be used on the thirden console?

 

Great idea! I've had installing new power windows on my list for awhile now, mine are so bloody slow it's ridiculous. It seems like it takes at least thirty seconds for them to roll all the way up!

 

I didn't like the thought of putting pw switches in the ashtray so I got some from a contour and put them in the sides of my console. They have a (green) LED in them that lights the arrows with ignition power. I'm not so lazy that I have to have an automatic up/down feature so that was irrelevant to my search for a 'better' pw switch.

 

the other side... they are not that difficult to rewire either..

 

very nice deadbird!

 

hey deadbird great idea! whered you get the switches

 

Very nice deadbird! I'd still like to see the Saturn switches as the auto-down feature would ... KICK - ***...

 

bah, i dont think its lazyness.... you can tap the switch and continue driving without having to use a hand on the switch the whole time..... also, it lets me tap the switches and have the windows move as im dropping the top... thats why i want them anyhoo...






oh, and Stevie Ray Vaughan is a guitar ***.

 

You need to pull over to wait the 7-15 seconds for the windows to roll up/down ? (j/k with ya )
I'd like to just have a switch to hold down to operate the pass side window in my camaro (no pwr windows can suck at times). Leaning over the console to roll down a window bites.
Anyways, my comment wasn't aimed at anyone or the idea, I just find it a useless feature (personally), yet neat toy if you like that stuff, in a car with 2 windows (such as mine).

T_A_88.. They came from the junkyard and were out of a Ford Contour. $1/ea.

 

 

again.

they're too small.


the center console needs a full size switch.


most new cars are alot smaller then that.