Well I got her down to 11.39 natural @ 122 and figured I would shoot a little spray and hit some 10's.
Question is Ive heard that a plate is not recomended with a Mini Ram cause of fuel distribution, I would like to shoot a dry nozzle and make up fuel with prom but 30 lb inj. are just about maxed out. If I can't use a plate I guess I will use a real dry system that boost regulator pressure.

Thanks for any help.

 

 

Construtive replies are appreciated.

Your sarcasm is not welcome here. You PROM board guys may do it and get away with it, but I wont stand for attitude like that in this forum. PERIOD.

capiche?

 

RELAX!~

87_TA knows me and he knows that I mean no sarcasm as you put it.

Sorry to have entered into your domain without prior consent...jeashhhh this place just keeps getting pettier and pettier.

Now if we can get back to the light hearted, rib pokin fun cars/racing is suppose to be and exactly the way I'm sure 87 would have taken my comment.

 

I didnt know you guys knew each other.

My deal is that Ive been moderator of this board since it was created and we have formed a pretty good community of people, not all even thirdgen owners, who post back and forth and have a common mutal respect for each other.

Now, there is a thread going on about the 412 motor and I see a lot of 'you guys' (YES I MEAN YOU) in there from the prom board who have a reputation for stirrin up controversy. I just dont want to see this board turn into that because it isnt any fun.

carry on.

 

Then I suggest that "YOU" take your assumptions to IM before publicly displaying them. And if you ask me, that is 90% of the problem with the DIY board. Instead of letting people speak freely, there is a "unsaid" rule that you can't disagree with a few people. Or your labeled a "trouble maker". When in fact you come with proof/videos/timeslips/good advice, and they "talk" about in theory what you "should" do.

Just glad to see a few like Trax realize that, and stand up against those few. For I think that Glen and trax are the only "stings" holding that place a float.

Now let me appologize to 87_TA for "stirring" up trouble in his post. I'm sure we will laugh about it the next time our paths cross at the track.

 

Yo, there isny any unspoken rule about not arguing with people here.

It goes back to the 'mutal respect; i was talking about. No one steps on each other's toes. No one flames people even if they have something that looks ugly or doesnt work right. Hell, there was a guy who put a Novi 2000 paxton supercharger on his car and had to build a custom bracket. It started out as a chunk of wood and didnt look like much and he could have caught a LOT of flack from it, but no one mentioned anything.

ive seen plenty of "less than great" looking turbo header pictures posted up on this board too and I bite back my tongue and offer opinions without getting aggitating.

I stick by my guns. You have a reputation for causing trouble and f*** me for calling you on a thread like this but Im gonna do it.

 

Causing trouble or speaking my mind, and not becoming a follower of the "misled".

We are all big boys and girls that can make up our own minds as to who is speaking the truth.

I think if I was a "trouble maker" as you put it I would have been banned long ago from Trax or Glenn. Instead they respect me, as I respect them.

At the end of the day, you can flex your mod muscles however you like but I think you yourself said it best in the last sentence of your last post.

An oops sorry, would have done just fine. But anyways....people are so quick to draw their guns without actually checking in first. I think that is what respect is.

Well I have better things to do than defend myself to someone that obviously is looking to make a point. Good day and good hunting for your next ban victim.

87_TA - Cork, Dad, and I will be heading to Keystone for the next couple of weekends. Look to see you there. Heading down to Cecil in a few weeks with the new secret weapon. Sure to cause more contraversy and trouble here on the board. lol. Good luck with the nitro, I will use you as my guini pig in a few years when I turn to it. Or maybe sooner depending on where this winters mods take me. I say mid to low 10s on motor, with my hated MAF unit.

 

87: If you are maxing your injectors NA, don't you think that should be fixed before you try to spray? I would assume though that if your pump isn't maxed, that you could still go with a wet kit and be OK.

Ski: Not only could we do without your holier then thou attitude, but I would be a happier camper if you wouldn't waste my monitor space with a and the worthless pictures in your sig.

I don't go crapping in your yard, so don't come to Guido's forum and dump in his!

 

To answer the question, there HAVE been people claim that the distribution is off with mini rams, but Im not so sure that its not big enough of a problem to worry too much about it. Spray it once on a safe shot and read your plugs afterwards. Compare from front cylinders to back and see how it looks.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Biochem
[B]87: If you are maxing your injectors NA, don't you think that should be fixed before you try to spray? I would assume though that if your pump isn't maxed, that you could still go with a wet kit and be OK.

The inj are not past max, my duty cycle hits lower 90's meaning I don't have room to increase Pulse width via prom to make up the Fuel how I originally wanted.
So there for it will have to be compensated for via fuel pressure ,
Unless I buy a plate.
See I have a carb plate system and was just going to use existing parts to make a dry but thought mabe I would try to find a TPI plate to thow in and see. But now that I think about it, I think the water neck will be in way of Throttle body move forward.





Guys,Guys,Guys Please do not argue.!!!!
I'm just trying to go fast and have fun doing it

 

Gotcha... why not try a nozzle? After the MAF and you are good to go...

 

They seem to act very similarly to LT1 intakes, and both seem to leave the rear cylinders running lean NA and what happens when you spray really seems to depend on where you spray from and the spray pattern. Personally, I’ve had the best luck spraying about 12” in front of the TB with a nozzle.

Hey guido, could you just delete the middle 2/3 of this thread so others don’t waste their time? (hell, delete this paragraph if you want). You need to go stomping around in those big moderator boots…

 

Well if I run the dry nozzles I think I am going to drill through side of Throttle body flange on the intake on both side (dual nozzle)
Because my intake tube is such a restriction and I dont use it at the track.
I don't know ,I'm not even sure I feel like breaking the 7.5 yet....
Maybe I will use a RPM activated window switch to come on at about 5000 that way it does hit right out of the hole.

Thanks for replys guys.

Ski plan on attending PRP any time soon?
I think I will be there sat and or sun.

 

BioChem,

Can't you find something worth whining about..whhhaaa whhhhaa

87_TA,

Was planning on heading down there this weekend, however last night on a whim I dismantled my car, took the tranny out to get the TC out, and also took the IRS (independant rear suspecion) out also to give it a though going over. Depending on when vigilante can get the TC back to me, and when I can get the rebuild kit for the posi in, will depend on whether I am there this weekend.

Sure an shooting to be there, but timing might be tough.

 

Don't use the plate on that miniram. I had distribution problems where the front cylinders would lean out. If you just want to break in the high 10's, a single dry fogger with a size 40-50 jet should do it. It might be hard to fine tune the mixture without an aftermarket ECM like a DFI. What i finally did on my miniram was plumb it with a NOS sportsman direct port fogger kit. I used that to try and get in the 8's but so far, close but not quite

 

Sounds like a pretty hot setup! Care telling us any more about your car?

 

Thanks, I do my own Proms so fueling should not be a problem.

I would like to hear a little more about your setup as well..

 

1989 IROC 3480lb with driver
engine:
383 ci, miniram, out the box Brodix Track 1's,
off the shelf Comp solid roller blower cam, Hooker 1 3/4 longtubes, Vortech R trim 15psi no intercooler, NOS sportsman fogger 150 shot, Accel DFI Gen 6.

drivetrain:
Summers Bro's 12 bolt (3.73 gears posi), A1 Turbo 400 w/ transbrake, A1 4500 stall converter.
28x10 et streets.

9.67@144 best et with just R trim. 9.02@156 with the fogger.

R trim and fogger currently deleted. Replaced with a Vortech XX trim.

 

Are they the cnc track 1 heads?

 

No.