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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Suicide the hood???

Has anyone suicided the hood yet? If you dont know what i then, it means that the hood pivots fromt eh front of the car instead of the other side. Like on vettes.

Also, what would be needed to suicide the hood? I know hinges.

one- how would i lock it?
two-where would i lount it?
three-use gas shocks or hydrolics?


I think popping up somewhere, coming out of my car with lambo doors, then hitting a button and suddenly the door suicides open, ahhh that would be cool, then hit the button againa nd it closes the hood. Would that be awesome or what guys?


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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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Far as gas or hydraulic shocks I think both would work. As far as mounting it I believe that the best thing to do is take a look at how the corvette is set up that way, and try to see if you can copy that. For instance does the corvette have two hinges on the place where it opens, or only one. And you might want to consider a lighter hood if you can only do it with one hinge, fiberglass hood. As where to latch it I know that a lot of cars even though the hood swings open suicide style that the release is still in the front there. Don't ask me how they do it, but I have seen plently like that. Or you could always get fancy and put the release in the wheel well. It would work if you had it far enough away from the tire. Just a coulpe of thoughts.
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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you mean like a stock buick? heh, there was someone trying to do it on here... a search should bring it up......
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Yeah like a stock buick...
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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oh no...what's next...you want your wheels to flip horizontal so that you can acchieve vertical take offs and landings? Gas struts would be significantly easier than a hydrallic or pneumatic system, but then you couldn't "push a button and have it close the hood". Go to a junk yard and score some vette or buick hinges (I think it was a late 80's riveria for some reason?). It would prolly take a fair bit of fab. I wouldn't want the hinges resting on my radiotor support personally. and you would have to either fab/relocate your hood latch to the fire wall. And if for some reason you decided to go hydrallic/pneumatic, that creates a whole new slew of problems w/ wiring, pumps, tanks, and line routing. Also, it would be significantly easier if you used an aftermarket "Pin-on" hood. As they was a lot less than your boat anchor factory hood. If you want this done...save your lunch money and let a professional shop do it. I would suggest a street rod or low rider shop. Still won't be cheap.
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Re: Suicide the hood???

Originally posted by kidrcth
Has anyone suicided the hood yet? If you dont know what i then, it means that the hood pivots fromt eh front of the car instead of the other side. Like on vettes.

Also, what would be needed to suicide the hood? I know hinges.

one- how would i lock it?
two-where would i lount it?
three-use gas shocks or hydrolics?


I think popping up somewhere, coming out of my car with lambo doors, then hitting a button and suddenly the door suicides open, ahhh that would be cool, then hit the button againa nd it closes the hood. Would that be awesome or what guys?


Thanks,
Shane
um, luckily I know what you are talking about...the part that is the oddest is:

Originally posted by kidrcth
I think popping up somewhere, coming out of my car with lambo doors, then hitting a button and suddenly the door suicides open, ahhh that would be cool, then hit the button againa nd it closes the hood. Would that be awesome or what guys?


Thanks,
Shane
so it would appear to someone reading this that the door scissors open, and then suicides

As for answering your question

Fieros have "hoods" that open that way, and the release is still in the normal spot. Most cars that I have seen that open the hood this way have the release in the "standard" spot.

I agree on the using a lighter hood part, too. The stock steel hood is going to be a b****.

It would take some stiff gas shocks to pop it open like you are saying, and hard to close. I'd go with a hydraulic set-up myself for what you are wanting to do.

I could be wrong, but I think it is technically called a "clamshell hood" and not suicide like the doors, though the principle is similar. Or I could be using a term I heard from soemone who didn't know the proper name and used what it looks like

Anyways, this is a much easier propostion than the scissor doors and should come out easier/better. Not saying give up on the doors, but I'd do the hood first, and unless you do something like a rebody ala K-1 Styling's Evolution, don't worry bout scissor doors. Now, gullwings, that'd be awesome .
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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hey, about your doors...

From Kit Car

"The good news is that the Evo II is not a major restyle, since we really liked the overall shape of the original. The most obvious change on the new model is the flip-up Lambo-style door package, developed from original F-body parts, that are standard on the GTE model (the otherwise identical GTS retains standard F-body door operation). "

http://www.euroworksltd.com/EvoluzioneII/

They say it is developed from original f-body parts.

I'd contact them or www.k1-styling.sk on how the door itself works. Just tell them you are concerned with how the stock parts would be worked/reworked for this purpose, etc, and see what they say....

I feel dirty j/k.

good luck.
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by 89formula383
hey, about your doors...

From Kit Car

"The good news is that the Evo II is not a major restyle, since we really liked the overall shape of the original. The most obvious change on the new model is the flip-up Lambo-style door package, developed from original F-body parts, that are standard on the GTE model (the otherwise identical GTS retains standard F-body door operation). "

http://www.euroworksltd.com/EvoluzioneII/

They say it is developed from original f-body parts.

I'd contact them or www.k1-styling.sk on how the door itself works. Just tell them you are concerned with how the stock parts would be worked/reworked for this purpose, etc, and see what they say....

I feel dirty j/k.

good luck.

alot of people have tried.

they refuse to talk about it, give info, or sell just the hinges.
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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dont do it, unless you make the hinges bolt the the radiator support it wont be strong to hold up the hood without twistin the nose all around, even then, you have to reinforce the radiator support, in my opinion, to much work for that,,,
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Someone here with a gray camaro w/4thgen wheels has already done the front hinged hood using buick (park avenue(?) hinges(this car's hood opens corvette style).
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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Not gonna say anything...
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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Buick LeSabre hood hinge, forget what year maybe late 80's early 90's. Seen it done on that twin supercharged Camaro that was on Popular Hotrodding TV
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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Early 90's Buick ParkAvenue hinge is what's on my car... not done yet, so far so good though
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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correct me if im wrong...what year vette hinges? all the ones im thinkin of the whole front end is one peice
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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No one is talking about vette hinges just hood opening up like the current and early vettes did.
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