Went to the track today as i had posted in my sig. Ran a 13.15 @ 102.78. The track was so cold that i couldn't hook up at all. I was launching it at idle and still wheel hopping like crazy. It may be a little faster once warmer weather hits. The car still has stock heads, cam and intake.... the only mod was that i ground down the ridges behind the TB. Other mods are listed in my sig.

 

timeslips, nice light, huh? Wheel hopped bad on that run.

 

With a 100 hp shot?

 

nope. all motor.

 

Wow!!!! Amazing et's for the minimal mods.
Hats off to you, my friend.

 

A few guys from TGO were there today. Camaro05 and dennis91rs can vouch for my mods/times.

 

How much weight have you taken out of the car?

 

excellent times!

 

Actually, i did my first wheight reduction last night. i removed the spare tire and CO2 canister and jack. about 30 pounds. the car weighs 3700 with me in it. i only weigh 170, so.....

 

3700 lbs to boot. My old combo 350, ZZ-9, heads , intake, went 13.00s, at 3500lbs. I must have done somthing wrong.

 

Hey Brutalform,
This is an excellent forum for info on quick combos. Pay attention, you can learn from these guys. Keep an open mind, maybe we can both learn something.

 

yeah, it would be cool to find a bare bones camaro with manual windows/locks/seats,ect, and drop my motor into. they weigh a few hundred pounds less. it would definitely be in the 12's then! I was actually hoping to run 12's today, but i guess i will have to wait for my torque converter to get here.

 

If traction was an issue today, you may have a twelve sec combo already. The right converter could get you into the mid 12's. My buddy shaved a lot of weight by swapping in manual windows and locks. Also converted to s-10 manual steering. These mods plus padding under carpet removal, sway bars removed etc was worth 1/2 a second when all was said and done. Total cost to do was less than $60 at the local "pick a part". I would not be suprised if low 12's is a realistic goal considering the converter, traction, and some weight loss.

 

Yeah, but im not a big fan of wieght loss. I believe in running what you drive in with. You should have seen the r i c e r section at the track today. looked like a swap meet! seats, tires, door panels, a full exaust system on the ground! While i agree that the car would go faster if i removed some stuff, to me thats cheating. Since my car is a GTA that means it comes fully loaded with everything, if i removed that stuff then it wouldn't be a GTA anymore. It's not my daily driver but i do enjoy a little comfort when i take it for cruises.

 

 

What the BS flag all about. thats why I posted pics of the timeslips and motor. I figured everyone on here would think it was pretty cool to get a TPI car to run low 13's with only bolt ons.

 

nice, i just need more traction, more timing, and tuning.

i hope to get down to mid 13s soon.

 

that is insanely awesome

 

Nice times, how cold was the air that night?? I'm sure thay had a /lot/ to do with it being up in Maryland. Coldddddddddddddddddd hehe. Best Power Adder you can do is make a run in 30deg weather vs 70deg, automatic HP Adder .

I've been told the 3.73 gears are too much for TPI, you may be convincing me to go that route w/ my car. Everybody says 3.42 and any more is too much, You have a pretty good running combo w/ those 3.73s!!! Let me know your thoughts on how those gears run!?!?

 

Am I the only one who doesnt think a 1.85 60' is that bad?

 

Yea..lol...spinning bad! I was thinking like 2.3 is spinning bad!! A 1.8x is damn good. Thats a low trap speed for the ET though....

 

the reason people have thrown the BS flag, is because you are running about .5 sec too fast for the mods you have. and your trap speed is almost that of an LS1 car. personally i am even more skeptical about this than i am about TunedPort335 running 13.4, but at least he has a reasonable trap speed and he is runnin slicks and cuts a hell of a 60' time.

I've said it before and i will say it again, if you can run a bottom 13 with exhaust, gears, and roller rockers, then how come every other L98 car out there is doin darn good to run low 14s stock? I assume you also did this with stock intake ducting? The stock intake ducting is horrible on a TA or 'bird.

I just have a hard time buying some of these times, because all the TPI cars i see run in real life are no where close to these times. I dont want to be rude and just flat out call people liars, but i'm not really sure i believe these times from such a stock GTA. you can make excuses until you are blue in the face trying to validate your calims, but the bottom line is, when compared to other cars with mods, your claims dont add up.

you are running the same times as a 6speed LS1 car in a 3700lb GTA with automatic tranny and exhaust and gears, lets get real here.

 

CHROME- about the 3.73's, it took me a long time to get the courage to move to them because of every thing i have heard. They picked me up at least 2 tenths, but my MPH stayed the exact same. 1/8 MPH was faster, but TPI loses wind up top.

1mean z- yes i understand why people are skeptical, camaro05 was at the track. He had similar mods, even had SLP runners and was happy to run a 13.9. I honestly couldn't tell you why mine was so much faster. I have just been adding a few mods at a time and then running it to see improvement. I would brag and say it was driver skill but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to drive an automatic.

The intake ducting is stock. i removed the factory air canister and put a large K&N cone filter off a GMC Envoy on the end.

MIR is a good track, but i was still that much faster then camaro05 in the same conditions.

If you all want pictures of anything on the car you are curious about, just let me know, i will post them. I'm not trying to hide anything, i just want to show what can be done.

 

better 60ft =lower the trap speed.

 

Well, you would have to be making some serious HP to run that time and ET if your car weighs 3700lbs. My friends 2000 SS weighs 3565 with him in it, and it ran 13.8@103 stock and had around 305 rwhp stock. With 341rwhp he was running a 13.20@108. Something just does not add up. Either the car is WAY lighter than you think...or it has something else under the hood you do not know about.

 

Correct, id do a compression test. run the castings on the block/heads anything to see if its actually stock. if it is damn congrats, i need to race mine in 30 degree weather id probably run mid 11's.

 

That 60ft helped him out alot. I imagine to hit that you had stickies on or some damn good drag radials!

 

I don't understand the skeptism for those who've been around tgo for some time....there's a handful of guys that have '90-'92's SD L98's running mid 13's through factory exhaust...pretty much untouched motors.

For years we've called them "Factory Freaks"...could be Matt has one...add headers and 1.6 RR's,plus his other mods, and if he had one of those mid-13 factory cars, he'd easily free up some more ponies...coupled with the cool weather, low 13's would be doable.

 

I dont for one minute doubt that you ran that number. But with stock everything, come on! Matt, how long have you owned the car? Maybe the previous owner did some mods that you are unaware of. I saw the slips and believe you ran the times, but just cant swallow the fact it ran those times with the stuff you dont have. The B/S flag was not meant as an insult. I believe you are a great driver and such, but, like I said, maybe you have somthing you dont know about. Just like the guy who buys a car, and thinks its a 305, and turns out to be a 350. I have a large stroker, and I can tell the world its a 350, if I wish. Im not saying you are lying, but you might have some things done you are unaware of.

 

The Speed Density cars run a bit faster stock than the MAF cars...

My car seems right in line with his...a bit slower, though. Add 20 mph from 8th to qtr and there is the 100+ mph potential with mine. If an LS1 car is running that slow, somethings wrong with it or the driver. Stock LS1s in my area run closer to 85mph in the 8th...about 105+ in the qtr...and I beat them to the 8th mile more times than not...just feel slow once they pass me (after the finish line).

I'd say his gear ratio helps out that mid range power and 60' quite a bit.

 

Mine ran a 13.8 @ 99 with only a cat-back, 160° thermostat, K&N's, and a 176° fan switch.

The car is a fully optioned 92 Z28(350), no weight reduction, 100 lbs of audio equipment, and me (250 lbs) with 3/4 tank of gas.

I believe that the car with me weighs in at about 3800.

 

my 305TPI 5spd car ran 13.9 @ 97 with only a 2.02 60ft back in 02 with the stock 3.08s in it on 205/75/15s. lots of people gave me **** about it, i had headers, off road y, cat back, ported plenum, ac delete, emissions delete, K&Ns. the car weighed 3350 with me in it, this however was in 35* air. the car trapped 1-1.5mph slower during the summer so thats not an extreme difference.


so in essence i wouldnt worry about what anyone has to say.


and meanZ what is so hard to believe about tunedport335s car?
i cant wait to see what people say when he hits 12s.

 

I do believe it is possible that TunedPort335 ran 13.4. He has bone stock heads and intake, which made the ET seem a bit far fetched, but if you look at his trap speed and 60' times, you can see how he did it, his car is a rocket out of the hole, plain and simple.

You guys can chit chat on here all you want about internet times. I and many others on here just flat out dont believe you. Think and say about me what you wish, you all are fools for entertaining these kinds of claims. Get a life and move on, anyone with a brain knows a stock GTA with boltons cant go low 13s. Pardon me while I step out of this thread for good and back into reality.

 

I've had the car for 2 1/2 years now. An old guy had it before me, just drove it to church on sundays or something like that. it only had 50k on it when I bought it. I can tell you its the original motor. I could tell the intake runners had never been off when i replaced the lower intake gasket a year ago.

I've been slowly modding it since i got it. Never ran it bone stock, but with the chip(off the shelf hypertec), TB airfoil and stock replacement K&N it ran 14.02. Since then, each mod i've done has netted about a tenth. I'm actually suprised at how well bolt ons work. I would have never believed manufacturers claims until i started modding my car and seeing results.

I appreciate all the positive feedback and will keep everyone posted when i try to go 12's when i put the converter in and get better traction.

 

sorry but i will entertain what i know my car has ran, and chris's aka tunedport335, because i was at the track when he ran 13.4 and i am a good friend of his.


there is always some one faster.

 

SLP IROCZ what are you arguing for meanz said he beleived 335s time by stating that by looking at the 60ft and trap you can see hows hes pulling the et he his but he simly dont believe this other claim of 13's on a stock internal bolt on 350, I myslef have witnnessed a number of 350 third gens with bolt ons being lucky to throw down a mid 14, so I myslef am also skeptical.

 

im defending myself because of this:

i simply said i will stick up for my car and chris's beacuse i know the facts. i was not arguing further, i think i made sense by saying i will only stick up for what i know. obv i dont know anythin about matts car and was simply being nice by saying "great times" in my original post, am i skeptical, yep, could he be lying yep. do i care? no i dont, its the internet, if someone wnats to lie or whatever about ETs and MPHs on a message board then thats good for them, it doesnt bother me, again i was being polite by saying way to go.

 

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and at least consider peoples claims when I see them even if they seem a stretch. True some people's are just ridiculous and like ok sure, but others are borderline.

I honestly 90% believe GTA matt's claim's mostly because he went to the trouble of posting the timeslips, pictures, whatnot. If he would go to that much trouble to try to pass a false claim, then he obviously is a tard.

 

Ok I now understand what you are saying about sticking up for yourslef it didnt seem thats what you meant, I just am really skeptical of his times based on my personal expierences. If it is that fast then it is a freak of nature,my

 

Some of you are such unbelievable losers that it's a wonder that *** hasn't found the time to smite you Maybe he has tried and just missed.

Matt, great times. But is it possible that the car has some hidden mods?

 

hey everyone. just thought I would step in since I was mentioned. I got to hang out with Matt and see his time slips after he ran. They are definanly impressive. And he did have drag radials too, I saw some of you ask about that.
I was hoping to run a little better than what I did last weekend. but I did have heavier wheels and smaller tires this time.

 

Ive never been drag racing ..
And congrats to the poster, but just out of curiosity,
where does it prove these are his time slips ?

 

I believe his times but also believe something else was done that he doesn't know about.

 

figured i'd post some pics. the quality isn't that great because they were taken off other pictures.

This is a launch from last year.

 

Me walking a LT1. he ran a 13.70.

 

Matt I beleive you. i think it's awesome to see TPI cars running times like these. Your car may be a freak but the trap speed is still low enough to prove that its still got that "TPI" powerband.

I may have missed it but what kind of tires do you run? That thing squats pretty good.

Congrats man!

 

Oh and i LOVE the fact that you have Edelbrock headers, the same headers that everyone sh*ts on and makes fun of because they "sacrifice horsepower"



Bah!!

 

Thank you. That top picture is from last year with the 3.23's. The tires were BF Goodrich KDW's. They were decent for street tires. This year i'm running Nitto 555 Drag radials.

 

Thats awesome man.

I need to get my tranny dialed in and I should be right up there with ya. My 1/8th ET is there now i just need to get the shift points right and get that down to a 13.1-13.2


Get a 3000 stall and say hello 12's

 

[QUOTE]Get a 3000 stall and say hello 12's

Thats what i'm saying

Oh, and i went with the edelbrocks because they were the only headers that i was 100% sure would work with duel converters. I'm sure other companies make them, but i challenge anybody to feel the difference in power from one header to another. People on TGO seem to be stuck on Hooker.