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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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guess what i found out

the camaro hard top and camaro convertible weight almost the same!!! thats freakin awesome! now if one comes up, i wont feel bad buying it.

does anyone have and pics of what a convertible looks like the the aftermarket roll bar thing (whatever its called)
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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To me a 100lb difference isn't almost the same, but hey what ever makes ya happy!

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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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i thought they were almost the same b/c the conv lost the heavy glass hatch....those liars!
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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i thought they were almost the same b/c the conv lost the heavy glass hatch....those liars!
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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When you add the reinforcements AND roll cage, which is heavier then a rear seat
The pics are in the pinned section, I'm sure you would find
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> My example pic has custom seats, but I didn't resize the rollbar one>
Attached Thumbnails guess what i found out-c-windows-desktop-folder  
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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wow, looks sexy
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Car: 92 Z28
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Thats Tommys Car.

I have more of his pic's here
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/oth.../TommyMRIROCZ/


here are more verts also....
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/oth.../Convertables/


Heres a shot of my Roll Bar in the Vert Im working on...
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...s/DSC01195.JPG

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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: factory RWD, WS6 susp
Likely you found this one I had to resize, but adding sharpness... it became too large again... I have to check while I'm posting there hehe...
Attached Thumbnails guess what i found out-smaller-red-dt.jpg  
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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now thats a nice camaro, i wish i had one like that
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
Engine: L98 350 TPI
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Who wouldn't??
Not many really impress me, being a Firebird guy, but overall, I'm a stubborn GM loyalist...as many mistakes as they make, they had the styling studio and luckily the engineers needed to keep up with the stiff competition year in and year out.
These days, I feel nothing new from them gets my blood pumping though, other then the Vette, which still LOOKS like a USA Vette
Bill
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS Convertible & 1983 P
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Convertible IS Heavier

MVMA Specifications:

CAMARO (1FP87) 2 Door Coupe (LHO & MB1) = 3105 Pounds.

CAMARO (1FP67) 2 Door Convertible (LHO & MB1) = 3220 Pounds.

CAMARO Z28 (1FP87) 2 Door Coupe (LB9 & M39) = 3273 Pounds.

CAMARO Z28 (1FP67) 2 Door Convertible (LB9 & M39) = 3377 lb's.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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well that video about the iroc convertible lied, check the video section of this site
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: factory RWD, WS6 susp
If you've looked through, I think it was Consumer Digest/Guide, etc, prior reviews (they keep moving up in years), our generation of Firebirds, all types, got favorable, if not excellent, reviews from car critics for their handling, especially, and power...as usual ride comfort is the victim of a car meant for road enthusiests. (the 'sporty car' segment ;:~)
I think by and large, these are somewhat small cars, but don't fit in that bracket when I think of small cars. What I did notice is my two rides together; '88 Sedan Deville and the '89 Firebird 2 door coupe, both are roughly the same size, and of course, being a luxury car meant for comfort, the Cadillac is heavier. Anyway, the reinforcement for the droptop doesn't have too much of a downside.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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yeah, i heard that the extra weight of the support was offset by loosing the heavy glass hatch
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: factory RWD, WS6 susp
If you're willing to forego the extra seating for a rollcage, you have to factor in more weight though I have no numbers, I like the look, but for me, prefer the seating. I got my first ride in the car back there!

You can picture, I got my 32" Toshiba TV home from the cities in that back seat, it was used from a pawn shop so it was outside of the original box, but it worked. Luckily we have flat screens nowadays! hehehe
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Thats Tommys Car.

what size rims is he rolling on, they look like the 18s that hawks sells..
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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heres mine

here it is
Attached Thumbnails guess what i found out-camaro11111.jpg  
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Old May 1, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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My site has pics before and after though. Need some new pics this year since I went to wider ET Streets out back!


Convertible pics
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
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I love the old hotrod big rear meats, hunched down in front look, and the roll bar means your ready for street or strip, if it doesn't look import-style, anyway hehe

Do all rollbars delete the rear seat?
Bill
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Old May 2, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by Bill Speed
I love the old hotrod big rear meats, hunched down in front look, and the roll bar means your ready for street or strip, if it doesn't look import-style, anyway hehe

Do all rollbars delete the rear seat?
Bill
Not necessarily.... but it gives rear passengers something nice and hard to whack their heads on!
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Old May 11, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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From: Chico/Antioch California
Car: 1989 iroc Z Hardtop
Engine: 350 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
350's arent an option on verts either keep that in mind (unless its asc i guess)
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: factory RWD, WS6 susp
I shared words with Scott Moyer on the History/Restoration board and I'll say in my opinion, a car ordered thru a dealer or one with a VIN from the factory for convertible status, done via ASC, the selected company GM sent cars to is official to me. There are a finite number of cars done per year, and mine happens to be one that had the factory L98 engine. (and no #3 in VIN)

ASC cars I'd say are 'official' GM, that based on the GM designers sending their own cars off to ASC (I can say for sure, at least one) ...Likely after they rolled off the production line. Arm me with evidence to the contrary. For sake of questions I'm asked about my car, I keep answers brief so I typically quote the number most people seem to have settled on, it's approx still, I'd wager

BILL

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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Car: '89 Iroc Vert
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T-5(for now)
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9 Bolt
My insurance papers have vehicle weight on them

and I've compared a coupe car to a vert and I got news for you

vert is lighter

1250kg for vert
1350kg for coupe

form canada so its in kg times by 2.2 for pounds



edit my vert 5 speed compared to my buddies auto coupe

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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by 89Vert
My insurance papers have vehicle weight on them

and I've compared a coupe car to a vert and I got news for you

vert is lighter

1250kg for vert
1350kg for coupe

form canada so its in kg times by 2.2 for pounds



edit my vert 5 speed compared to my buddies auto coupe

dude these numbers are incorrect because camaro wieght is at least
1500 kgs and up to 1600kgs
just look at the size of the car and u will no that its more
1450 kgs
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS Convertible & 1983 P
Engine: 305 TBI & 305 4 BBL & 4.7 liter
Transmission: Auto & Auto & 5 Speed Manual
Here Are the REAL Numbers:

MVMA Specifications:

CAMARO (1FP87) 2 Door Coupe (LHO & MB1) = 3105 Pounds.

CAMARO (1FP67) 2 Door Convertible (LHO & MB1) = 3220 Pounds.

CAMARO Z28 (1FP87) 2 Door Coupe (LB9 & M39) = 3273 Pounds.

CAMARO Z28 (1FP67) 2 Door Convertible (LB9 & M39) = 3377 #'s.

The convertible weighs more than the coupe (including T-top models).

~Steve
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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damn, i remeber when i made this post i didnt have a camaro...i ended up getting a 91 Z28 t-tops (just got it yesterday)


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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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From: Maple Ridge, B.C., Canada
Car: '89 Iroc Vert
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T-5(for now)
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9 Bolt
I was wondering what MVMA is

I did a search and found nothing to do with vehicles
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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hmmm where did u find this acronym?
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Car: '89 Iroc Vert
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T-5(for now)
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9 Bolt
Originally posted by DanTheMan_smlk
hmmm where did u find this acronym?
I got it from here

MVMA Specifications:

CAMARO (1FP87) 2 Door Coupe (LHO & MB1) = 3105 Pounds.

CAMARO (1FP67) 2 Door Convertible (LHO & MB1) = 3220 Pounds.

CAMARO Z28 (1FP87) 2 Door Coupe (LB9 & M39) = 3273 Pounds.

CAMARO Z28 (1FP67) 2 Door Convertible (LB9 & M39) = 3377 #'s.

The convertible weighs more than the coupe (including T-top models).
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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DSIP, thats what that is
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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MVMA is.......

Motor Vehicle Manufacturer's Association
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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lol, how lame is that
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:12 AM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: factory RWD, WS6 susp
We did mention it had reinforcements, correct?

My 1989 T/A dealer sheet also lists specs like the above, but clearly with the V6 Turbo to 350 TPI options on the Bird of preys

Bill
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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From: Maple Ridge, B.C., Canada
Car: '89 Iroc Vert
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T-5(for now)
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9 Bolt
officially weighed my car in at the truck scale yesterday

1620kg without me but a full tank of gas
about 3560pds
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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see....thats about the same...
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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My 'vert at a truck stop weigh station, full tank of gas, class books in the trunk (as well as the stock spare/jack) with my gf and I in it was 3700, she's 120 and i'm about 180.
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