irocstang

CLOSING DATE FOR GP ORDER 31st JAN 06..Time has run out. This GP has come to a close. You missed out if you didnt order before the 31 of Jan..

NUMBER OF COMMITTED:28, PEOPLE WITH ORDERS IN: 33
Once 20 people have ordered price per set will be: 159.99 per set (american)+shipping and UPS Brokrage.

(20 orders have now been placed giving those that order their sets for 159.99 (american) plus shipping and UPS brokrage)

EASIEST PAYMENT OPTION:

"Shopping Cart- For orders placed online we have created a Coupon code that reduces the price of the item to $159.99. During check out at our web site at www.umiperformance.com please enter coupon code 814502 and the price will be reduced to $159.99. If you were quoted a shipping price please enter the quoted amount in the in the comments section. I will personally e-mail each buyer with the correct amounts if a shipping price was quoted by me, if you were not quoated shipping the shopping cart will also figure shipping for you. If 20 buyers are not received the buyer will have the option to pay an additional $10.00 for the 10 person price if we have 10 buyers. If not we destroy your credit card information and discard the order. No credit cards will be charged until we have reached the correct amount of buyers. We can accept Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Paypal."--Quoted from Ryan at UMI--
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Talked to ryan at UMI and he said he would be willing to do a group purchase for subframes if there was enough interest.....he wrote this in an email he sent me.....

"Thanks for the interest and I will be glad to try to help out.

Yes a GP would be possible and I will list the quanity of orders we would need and the price if that many is meet. For payment we can accept Visa, Mastercard or Amercian Express and also money orders. Shipping for this item has to be UPS do to size. Also do to the size combine shipping is not available and we are only able to ship (1) set per package. If shipping to Canada they will be insured and marked for the full value and we can not mark the items as gifts. The subframe connectors are also available Red or Black powder coat for no extra charge, we can do additional colors for $20.00 extra if desired.

Here are the prices, we can do either 5 people or 10 people.

5-9 People- $184.99 a set

10+ People- $169.99 a set

Let me know if I can help anymore and I will be glad too.

Thank you!
Ryan

If anyone is interested please post I willing to be the first one of 10.

firebirdjosh

iTrader: (1)

Those look good but is there any performance difference over the other styles to justify the added weight and cost?

superGMman

Iv'e never seen those before they look like extremely high quality SFC's.

RestoRoc89

Those connectors look decent, especially for the price I suppose. However, I don't really like that big lap weld for both structural and ground clearance issues. Moreover, I think they may just amount to more added weight with little benefit vs. the competition's products. It would be great if someone could try them and actually quantify all the speculation.

irocstang

Minimize chassis flex and increase performance capabilities on your 82-92 GM F-Body with boxed style weld-in subframe connectors from UMI Performance. Subframe connectors are a must chassis upgrade when racing and hard driving habits are present. They greatly improve your car's handling ability while reducing t-top squeaks, dash rattles and quarter panel flexing. Subframe connectors essentially tie the front and rear steel subframes together, resulting in a stiffened and strengthened chassis; allowing better weight transfer and improved traction when launching. When strength is a concern, square tubing has greater torsion resistance over tubular designs. Subframes do not effect ground clearance and weld-in style requires no bolts to tighten ever and less chance of flex compared to bolt-in types.

Our subframe connectors for the third generation F-Body is, by far, the strongest set-up on the market. This unique design utilizes a 3 piece set-up, allowing (6) major weld points through out the chassis of the vehicle.

Features:
- Built using 2.000” x 1.250” x 0.120” Mild Steel Rectangular Tubing
- CNC Machined 0.188” Thick Mild Steel Mounting Points
- Uses Control Arm Mounting Point for Increased Strength
- Precision MIG Welded Construction
- Brilliant Durable Powder Coat Finish


Installation:
Weld-in only, installs in approximately 2 hours, all necessary hardware and detailed installation instructions included.

irocstang

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irocstang

please dont ban this thread. I know there are too many pics. But nobody has a good thread with all the info in it about UMI SFC. I Hope this thread will be very usefull to our members.

Thank you

Ps not planning on postin any more pics myself

firebirdjosh

iTrader: (1)

1. Post a link to their website with info/pics direct from them?
2. I won't purchase anything from a company that claims "by far, the strongest set-up on the market" unless they can seriously back it up and prove that 100% so I'm out.

irocstang

this is the link to umis website

http://www.umiperformance.com/

this is the link to the third gen SFC on their site

http://www.umiperformance.com/2400.aspx

This is the email for their support tech guy if you have any questions, he says he'll be glad to ansewer any questions thrown his way.

support@umiperformance.com

In my mind these are the best sfc on the market.....at least they look the beefiest.. They do not impair ground clearance as you can see in the pictures I have posted above.

please post if you want to be included in this group purchase

Robert

irocstang

Address your emails to Ryan if u email the support tech at UMI performance.

irocstang

Ryan at UMI says the cost of shipping for me is $91.30 (I live in BC Canada) He says this does not include UPS charges. UPS charges our our responsibility. Email Ryan at UMI for a shipping quote for yourselves if interested in this GP.

Wayne's 383Iroc

I like mine

irocstang

this is the site i will be posting the results of the email i get from you on. On wednesday right? lol....thanks again wayne

To all others reading this post this is a clip from an email I got from Ryan at UMI about the weight:

The SFC's weigh in around 36 pounds a set. The shipping weight is 45+ pounds but they are then marked as oversize do to there length which ups the shipping price.

Again if your interested in this GP please reply.

irocstang

their weight wont matter much when your pushin 600 horse.....the fact that they are beefier may infact be a bonus to structual regidity in the 600+ horse category.

youre a moron

And how much HP are you running?

You sound like the typical 15 year old who has no performance parts on their car and runs around looking for the "best" deal trying to get the lowest price and then never end up buying a damn thing wasting every single vendors phone time macking on the phone talking about what your future plans are for your car.

"How much does that SPEC clutch hold? Will it hold 1000HP?"

When you will never even hit 300 at the crank. Just wishful thinking that "maybe"

Shut up if you don't have anything positive to say.

irocstang

no im not currently running 600 horse but i am planning on it once my chassis is done. No im not 15 im 26. I park my camaro for the winter and run my other ride so i can pack my camaro with more goodies. I already have 16 grand into the camaro and yes i do have alot of parts sitting in my closet to install before next summer. A couple of these are TDS wonder bar, Edelbrock STB and trenz billet grille. The next thing i plan on buying is SFC and roll cage.

irocstang

"I like mine they stiffened up the car a lot, it leaves the line with even lift on both sides. The only complaint that I have is that they did not clear my Y pipe collector. It took 30 mins to put the drivers side in and 3 hours on the pass side, clearancing the SFC so the y pipe would not rattle on it. Not hard just time consuming."

soulbounder

If they would have built the passenger side like the driver's side I would've been sold.

irocstang

i willl have more pics on wednesday from one of our members.

Creak

Who ever the heck Youre a moron is I think they were replying to firebirdjosh, not irocstang.

I helped a friend install the UMI sfc's, the fit was good and we no had no issues. I did read on there installation sheet is states that it may require clearancing for aftermarket exhaust. He was running the stock pipe and was fine. The passneger side can't look like the drivers side because the exhaust runs down the pass. side unless you are running LT's.

irocstang

yeah i wasnt sure if he was replying to me or josh. Hate the negitivity. Im just tryin to have a good thread for these sfc as there really isnt one. Thanks for the imput.......did your friend notice alot of difference after he installed them?

another thing i found that seems informative:

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...ead.php?t=4825

The SFC's we currently offer are a 2 point design, we supply them powder coated, there is no ground clearance lost....and there less expensive "

irocstang

can you take some pics of your friends ride with them installed and post them?

firebirdjosh

iTrader: (1)

I really hope this isn't some guy at UMI, that'd be hilarious. Either way, I see nothing wrong with their product and I'm sure its excellent, I was just stating its pricey and possibly overkill without any actual evidence of their quality.

Either way, if you can read you'll see my car has a HSR 355, so when Stealth Ram'd 5.8L engines come stock on Trans Ams then I can see your argument. And until I see in the TGO forum rules that all posts must be positive then I'll post whatever I feel is somewhat constructive.

If the company can't justify their claims then why should I pay extra money?

P.S. Sorry irocstang for having this in your thread, I was just trying to determine if they're worth the added weight and cost.

irocstang

i understand your arguments. These are some questions i am trying to ansewer myself. If i can get ansewers and more pics of people who have installed them would you be interested?"

Creak

I would hope not too, but I really doubt it would be. I have dealt with Ryan a few times and he is very professional about his products. Prob just some joe smoe that thinks he is funny. I actually found there price resonable for that type of build.

Irocstang, I will check and see if he has any pictures, I don't remember taking any. The installation of the exhaust looked just as posted on there site.

irocstang

Thanks, if he doesnt have any can you make him take some? LOL

demonspeed

I can't believe some of the response to this thread. I can assure you that no one from UMI or any supplier would ever say anything like "You're A Moron" posted. I also find it laughable that someone would actually take the time to set up an account just to post that one thing.

Now, I know some of you are saying "why should I buy these over anyone else's" or "how do they make their claims"...

Let's see... the price, the service, the quality... To me that seems like a good enough reason to buy from UMI.

f you're worried about the weight, it seems more nit-picky just to find something wrong with the product. Really, if you're into modifying your car, I'd sure as heck hope you're not getting worked up over a few lbs. More power is easily attainable to offset these "problems", if you consider it a problem. Not to mention your gaining weight by adding ANY suppliers SFC's.

As far as "how can they prove their strength?" - Look at the pictures - they speak for themselves. UMI isn't some huge corporation that has endless R&D resources - nor do many of the other suspension companies I'd assume.

irocstang

"I also find it laughable that someone would actually take the time to set up an account just to post that one thing."

what do you mean by this.....and do you know of anybody that has installed these that has other pics to assure worried viewers.

Thanks for your valuable comments

demonspeed

Laughable meaning I think it's stupid that someone would sign up just to post that crap.

As far as pics... no, I don't have pics. I have seen them in person installed and they look excellent.

irocstang

yeah i dont understand that either. Thanks for the reply. Trying to find more pics.

firebirdjosh

iTrader: (1)

Then how can they justify their claim of strongest on the market? Not that it matters really, I'm just bewildered that companies make claims like that. Either way:

These cost more and weigh more than other products (regardless of the added weight, its still more than other companies due to their size). The question is if anyone has had these and compared it with another brand. I could put a 12 point roll cage in my car, it would be safer, but if its not necessary then its wasted money. In a same way, I'm trying to figure out if these are overkill for my application.

irocstang

ssems like they cost less than other brands....like KB.

Creak

I think they are just stating a point. Prob by comparing there build quality and design to others on the market they are stronger and better built, I know the comp. Eng can't even compare. I think its just a statement and I didnt think anything about it, I think your looking into it to much.

demonspeed

I would agree you're probably looking into it too much as well (I am the same way with things though, so don't worry )

It's really hard to say what is overkill or not. Some say all you need is tubular bolt ins, while others say you need boxed weld in. Other people might say SFC's just aren't needed at all. I say go with the reputation and quality, then price. That should be all you need. If they are overkill, then you'll know you have peice of mind in the future and that's just one less thing that needs to be upgraded.

Again, I say compare the pictures. You can clearly see why UMI would mention a claim such as that.

Nonetheless, it's not like UMI is the only company out there. You can go with Spohn, BMR, etc... if you really feel that UMI's claims are too exhuberant. I can pretty much assure you though, that you won't think twice after installing these UMI SFC's should you decide on this GP

irocstang

Im in that makes 1 of 10 who else will commit?

Kat

iTrader: (4)

Hi Ryan. Still coping parts and selling them as your own?

irocstang

please explain your comment Kat

Kat

iTrader: (4)

I dont have to. Do a search and you'll figure it out.

irocstang

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1MeanZ

iTrader: (9)

Well I was somewhat interested in these SFCs, but I am getting tired of wading through all the bullsh*t to actuall find any reliable info. It sounds like the guys who are running them like them, and they look good to me, my problem is shipping is 100$!! I'll build my own for that much.

irocstang

I agree its alot I'll even have to pay more cuz of UPS and i live in canada. I dont mind though cuz all ive heard is good things. I dont know the first thing about welding not to mention how to make them so they would actually be a benefit. That makes it worth it to me. The powdercoating looks cool too. Good point to add is i bet all the other companys selling SFC will charge the same amount......not positive though. If your in let me know. Ive looked around now full time for like a week tryin to figure out which ones seem the best and strongest. Ive come to the conclusion that these are.

irocstang

Another thing to mention is that Like Lon at TDS, the customer service is awsome. I write Ryan an email and I get a reply within the hour if not less. I have also researched his company and have not found a single person that is not pleased with their order; third/fourth gen customers. The only thing that people have said negitive is that they were upset at the UPS brokrage fees.

If noone will go in on this group purchase, ill wait and see for a bit, i will have to pay the 300+UPS fees. I will glady do this if noone is interested in committing. Then ill post my results, im sure ill be satisfied, everyone else that has ordered them has been.

Id have to pay 500 Canadian for Comp Eng Ones from LORDCO in my home town. They look like garbage and ive heard alot of bad things about them. To pay 300 plus UPS ill probably save 100 bucks and have the best quality I can get. Post your comments.