well i started my 305 to 350 swap tonight. we didnt get too far, got most of the wires and vacume lines off and labled. next is the motor mounts and the exhaust. here are 2 pics.. one of them is before we touched it tonight,, the other is when we stoped tongiht.

 

after

 

Looks like fun to me Good luck

 

As long as it doesn't have that nasty LG4 air cleaner or any of that LG4 exhaust, it won't be.

Those are familiar looking photos, though, now becoming a distant memory...

 

ok here is the freshly painted block

 

after we got the headers on,,,we noticed that the damn y pipe was gonna have to go straight through the pan, so i ended up puttin my 305 pan on there.

 

got it dropped in....then found out that i had got the o2 sensor put on the wrong side of the headers....it was hittin the frame... got that fixed today!

 

thats all the pics i got so far,, i didnt take any tongiht,, im trying to have it started up tomorrow!!

 

thought id psot another pic of the bird its goin in!

 

Well, looks like its coming right along. Those are some familiar looking photos though. Exept that I didnt have but half the wires you got (took out the ecm). Nice looking motor though. BTW is that a Victor Jr. intake?

 

no its the performer.. i wish i could take that damn ecm out, but i need to pass emisions........all of these damn wires are getting the best of me thoug....i had some friends help me,, and they wernt very good at lableing stuff,,, plus finding some of the broken sensors is hard to do...kinda a big project for a first time swap..........

 

You should really have spent some time cleaning that engine up...

 

dont you mean the engine bay?? well it was a thought,, a very short thought. this is my daily driver, and im on spring break at the moment,, so i dont have much time to do all that. Its taking long enough to get the motor done. as long as it runs, im fine.. im really getting sick of walking to work!

 

Looks good to me.....you can always clean up the bay as you go..a little here a little there...some of us aren't rich , we have to "road test" as we go.......Hope you have a drop base air cleaner for that performer....only 2 inches of clearance on my 89rs.
I put one of those 9inch x 1 1/2 filters on mine and it rubbed the hood....and choked my 327.....ran way rich...thanks for posting the pics, and good luck

 

i was told that i can get away with my stock cowl induction air cleaner with the performer.....well i jsut noticed that i never gave any specs to the engine!!! my bad well here we go!

4 bolt main block that has been "o ringed"
8.5 compression (everyday driver)
bigger heads that have been port and pollished
ballenced crank
mild cam
performer intake
double chain timing gears
bigger lifters and springs
heddman headers
supposed to have around 275-300rwhp
...ohh forgot to add.. its been bored out .040, making it a 357

 

Cant hurt to try before you go ordering anything...you could get lucky but I would be very surprised

 

yeah i guess...if it doesnt fit, what would you recommend that i put in it?

 

Everyone reccomends the dual snorkle drop base air cleaner....myself I am going with a 2" cowel induction hood, I believe if you do a search on the topic you will find alot of posts..I thought about a small scoop, but couldn"t get myself to cut mt near perfect hood
You may get lucky, I'm not sure if the firebird hoods are different....if you have cowel induction now it just might, I think the z-28 hoods are a inch or two taller than the rs's. But if not the drop base will work..keep me posted I'll learn a little about firebirds

 

i will keep you posted. i have a air cleaner that is the same size as my stock one that im gonna use to make my own dual snorkle with. that is if it fits.

 

So Fattie
Did the stock air cleaner fit?

 

yup yup yup yup yup!!! im in the process of making a dual snorkle too


but im having troubles with the TV cable

 

whats the problem???? not too difficult to adjust...look on the tranny board...Transfixleo or probuilt can tell you the best way to adjust it. I had to Fabricate a bracket to work...got one off a v-8 car and had to do a little customization to make it work

 

its not adjusting itself like it should.. what you mean you had to make a braket for it,, why?

 

when I went from the 6 cylinder I couldnt get the regular v-8 bracket to work on my setup....the throttle cable I kept from the six & I think that is were I had my problem.....works great now..

 

thats good.. i wish mine worked fine

 

maybe your cable is messed up, or became disconnected at the tranny???

 

it does shift,, just ****ed up. i tried doing the whole, button in, push cable all the way back, put throtel at WOT, and listen to it click. ohh it did not click. so iv been trying to adjust it by hand, but thats not working well either.

 

i dont know if im missing a clip or its suppsoed to be like this, but the square thing, its just sittin there. not attached to anything, kinda just floating in its braket. so we zip tied it in there.

 

yeah it should have its own clips you squeeze on the side...that could be your problem ,....it is moving around on ya..you could get a new cable pretty cheap..its just a b**** changing it with the tranny in the car BUT it can be done...did it myself, just give yourself time and dont get in a hurry.. Threading a needle sort of thing...Blind

 

some are saying that you are supposed to push the square thing back, then hit the throtle to adjust it.....and some are telling my to hook up a pressure gauge,, but they never siad where to put it.

 

To adjust the TV Cable skip the book method and do this: Press the 'D' shaped lock button on the adjuster and loosen the cable setting (The black housing that the metal cable is in will move forward). Now, have someone floor the gas pedal while you check to see if the throttle plate is open all the way. Usually they are off a little and will wiggle. Do whatever you have to do to get it open solid. Now, with the pedal still floored, press the 'D' button and pull the cable casing (the black tube) back as hard as you can (putting maximum tension on the metal cable) and release the button. You now have the engine, tranny and gas pedal all in sync at WOT. Mark the cable casing so if for some reason it gets moved you can know where to put it again. The problem with the 'self adjust method' is that it bends things and puts them permanently out of whack. It is also the full TV setting, which is theoretically what the GM method does.

Per Transfixleo::hail: :lala:

 

lol,, he just emailed me that

 

cool hope it helps

 

nope

 

get a new cable !!!

 

where can i get one at?? that cable is only for OD right?? i can shift it fine myself, which is what im gonna have to do in order to drive it. i also noticed that i was BONE DRY on trany fluid. its all full now. Does it take time for the trany fluid to "set in" or something?? i was hoping that was the problem, but it didnt fix it in the 10 min i was driving it. THIS SUCKS!

 

you can get a universal one at most parts stores...or summit..you need one for a 700r4 tranny right? Right!
It has to be mounted solid to work properly.....no tranny fluid!!!!!!! Yikes

 

does it matter how the cable is routed?? i when we did the swap, i didnt pay attention to how it was routed around the engine, so i just pulled it tight so there wasnt any exsess by the mount. This thing was working fine last week though, i jsut dont get how it can go to **** like this.

 

dont get discouraged..seems like there are always "bugs" to work out after a swap....haven't seen to many posts where a motor was swapped and they got in put it in drive and never looked back.....my Dad just had a new motor put in his caddy, by technicians, He has had it back to the shop 3-4 times getting things right....
I think problem solving is part of motor swapping..heck if it was easy , we would all open a shop and charge $65 an hour....now you know why shops charge so much....it takes TIME

 

yeah true that. i still havent figured that cable out,, but its been snowing and raining so i havent had time to mess with it

 

ok get this...i desided to mess with the cable today no matter if it was rainging or snowing. I went out there and tried something someone told me,, didnt work.. then i did the excact opposite of what i thought i needed to do. I thought that the cable would have been somewhere near the middle, instead of completely in or out.. well i tired one in the middle,,,sucked ***,, didnt shift right at all... then i was like **** it,, im gonna start from the very front(cable all the way in) and work my way back......bammm,,, worked! when i did the stuff everyone told me to do,, it ended up setting in the middle,, thats y it was never working right. so its shifting pretty good now, only thing its missing is its snappyness into 2nd(shift kit).. i didnt wnat to mess it all up and lose the shifting i have at the moment, so i didnt mess with the cable. you think if i were to move it a few clicks it would shift harder??

 

sorry man i didnt post to help ya out i just wanted to say that i gotta 84 TA and i'll HOPEFULLY b doing the same swap this summer

does the motor run a lot faster than the L69 or LG4 which ever one you had?

here is a pic of my baby....and hopefully it will have a 383 stroker by the end of summer....but im not keeping my fingers crossed

 

hey another question for ya

since u live in wakegan illinois does that mean u r gonna make it over to denny's for the meet?
if so.....i wanna check out your car....especially the motor....maybe u could tell me some tips on making it easier......

 

are you talking about the meet in rockford this saturday?? if so,, yeah i wont miss that for anything!! im sick of all these imports that i have to hang with jsut cause i have no american car friends...well except everyone on here . umm i had the slow LG4 before, there is a HUGE differance in power. going from a 150hp engine to a 300+hp engine,, **** there better be a differance!! you can check out my car saturday if your gonna be at the rockford hang out. just dont pay attention to the dent...or the paint...or the missing headliner, or the messed up hood...lol,, the list can go on and on. at least its running right now!

 

Hey coming along nice dude with
the engine swap!.. I wishedd I could
have been there to see it get dropped
in and stuff.. I've never witnessed a
engine being put in a bird yet.
anyways..... also thats a really
nice White 84 TA in one of the
replies too.. Cant wait till saturday
to see your car dude, hope ya
have it running so I can see it!

P.S. just a note for the other guy
and whoever else is interestedd..

that meet Saturday is at Beef A Roo
On East Riverside In Loves Park (Rockford)

Check out Northcentral IL post in
Midwest region

 

oh no im talkin bout like may 25th or so at denny's house
its in crete,illinois

and thats great....i cant wait for this swap!!!....and dont worry bout that.....atleast u have power....and besides my car has key marks on the passenger side

but if u dont know what im talkin bout
go on the NWindiana/chicago suburb forum and check it out
i think its gonna b some fun

 

thanks bluebird......thats my glamour shot of my bessie.....i had everything all cleaned up for that pic
this is what it usually looks like.......

 

I useed to have a red 84TA
with black stripe accents..
Loved that car.. but now Have my
blue 91.. when i get my website
up and running eventually
will have pics, and other ****.,.

 

ill have to look into that meeting at dennys, thanks for informing me on it!

 

thanks for the coments blue,,, ill hopefuly be seeing you on saturday!