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Old 04-12-2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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What if you don't bench bleed?

In redoing/modifying my brakes I forgot to bench bleed, this was of course after I removed the master cylinder and prop valve. I have been trying to bleed them now for almost a full day. I'm just starting to get a little pedal. So I'm assuming I can get bleed the brakes without bench bleeding. If so anyone have a estimate on how long it will take.
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In redoing/modifying my brakes I forgot to bench bleed, this was of course after I removed the master cylinder and prop valve. I have been trying to bleed them now for almost a full day. I'm just starting to get a little pedal. So I'm assuming I can get bleed the brakes without bench bleeding. If so anyone have a estimate on how long it will take.
Because of the angle at which the master sits (and air rises), your chances of a successful bleed is probably non-existent. Some members have tried lifting the rear end in order to level the master.

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Re: What if you don't bench bleed?

i dont have the paper handy, but there is a way to bleed the master with it on the car. You have to make lines that go from the 2 outlet ports and loop up and back into the master reservoir, below fluid level. Then pump away untill the bubbles stop. Not sure if there is something else involved, i just remember this method, or something similar, from the instruction sheet that came with a new master i bought.

or like james mentioned, you can try to raise the rear of the car to level the master.
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i dont have the paper handy, but there is a way to bleed the master with it on the car. You have to make lines that go from the 2 outlet ports and loop up and back into the master reservoir, below fluid level. Then pump away untill the bubbles stop. Not sure if there is something else involved, i just remember this method, or something similar, from the instruction sheet that came with a new master i bought.
Light bulb. The above may be available as a kit. Still, I'd think the master would have to be level. Here's the idea:

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...nch/index.html

Maybe a power bleeder.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Motive-Product...0105/10002/-1#

The application guide lists thirdgens to 91 (why not 92?)

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Thanks guys for the info!
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