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Old 07-14-2008, 01:12 AM   #1
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third brake light lens

Hey guys, Just picked up a 92 Firebird vert for my wife and it is missing the third brake light lens from the center section of the rear spoiler. It has a piece of red tape there now. Does anyone know of a company that reproduces them? I checked at my local GM dealership and they said it was a discontinued part. Is any other year or model interchangeable for the lens? Thanks for all your help!!!
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Re: third brake light lens

The rear spoiler third brake light off of a camaro works.
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Re: third brake light lens

Thanks Firebird90 for the info. Upon further investigation, and taking the center section of the spoiler off, all I have is the wiring coming to where the third brakelight is supposed to go with the factory harness connector. I am missing everything else. It is just an open area.

Question is, can I use the entire third brake light assembly off any 1988-92 camaro or firebird to plug into my wiring connector or is it specific to a firebird vert. I know the 87 third brakelight is different after doing a forum search. I really want to get this fixed as a piece of red tape where the brakelight is supposed to be really looks like crap. Thanks guys
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Re: third brake light lens

Wanted to move this back to the top. Any help or input would be appreciated. I am trying to get her 92 vert ready for the Trans Am Nationals end of August. I am missing the whole third brakelight assembly behind the rear spoiler including the lens.

Is anything from any firebird or camaro interchangeable to get it working or am I s**t out of luck? I can buy a compete center section with brakelight from Ted Gerlach, he has the part I need, but my spoiler center section is still ok. I just need the guts for the brakelight and lens. Thanks guys
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Re: third brake light lens

Not sure but I think the firebird vert 3rd brake lights are not the same as a camaro
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Re: third brake light lens

drove to Indiana to a junk yard today. I found an 89 iroc spoiler(non vert) center section but it looked thinner across the center than my 92 vert. will this work on my 92 vert. It appears as if the angle on the camaro spoiler is different than mine and it looks like the center section of the camaro will not match to my 92 firebird vert side spoiler ends????

My spoiler center section is good, I just need the 3rd brakelight lens and guts to go with it to plug in to the factory harness plug in.
What else interchanges as I am at a loss right now to fix it?????????????
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Willie, Lonsal , since you are third gen vert gurus please help as I would like to get this fixed asap

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Re: third brake light lens

It works for me....
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Re: third brake light lens

As far as I know the center spoiler section is the same piece for 91-92 Firebird 'vert as the 88-92 Camaro 'vert.

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Re: third brake light lens

Lon,
the one I found is off a t top car and it looks like a thinner width across trunk than mine does on my 92 vert. if it will line up with my left and right corner pieces, I will go back and buy it and have it painted to match.

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Re: third brake light lens

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the one I found is off a t top car and it looks like a thinner width across trunk than mine does on my 92 vert. if it will line up with my left and right corner pieces, I will go back and buy it and have it painted to match.

Thanks for your help,
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I'm confused by your post. The title says "third brake light lens" yet the discussion seems to be confined to the center spoiler section. The center spoiler section on a coupe is not the same as a convertible. As I wrote previously, as far as I know the center section of a 1988-92 camaro convertible is the same as on a 1991-92 Firebird convertible. The earlier 1989 Firebird convertible used a modified coupe piece. The side trim pieces for the camaro convertible and firebird convertibles are not interchangeable. The firebird ones are wider to accomodate the wider body. But the trunk lid, tonneau cover and center spoiler piece is the same for camaro & firebird 'verts.

Now if you want to talk about the third brake light lens it is the same for 1988-92 camaro convertible, 1987-90 camaro coupe and 1991-92 firebird convertible. 1987 camaro convertible used one from a Ford. Willie can fill you in more on the application ASC borrowed it from. For that reason only the center spoiler section is unique to the the 87 camaro convertible. The spoiler is being produced by the aftermarket. Just make sure it has the correct cutout for your center third brake light.

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Re: third brake light lens

I re-read the entire post. I'm not going to edit my prior post since it has info others may need regarding other interchangeable parts.

For your application, you can use the entire third brake light lens and mount from any 1987-90 Camaro coupe. The spoiler center section is different on coupes & convertibles though. The convertibles continued to use this lens assembly through 1992 but the coupes for Firebird and Camaro changed to a different one mounted high on the inside of the rear hatch glass.

I hope you have enough info from these posts to get a lens assembly.

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Re: third brake light lens

Thanks for being patient and posting back in great detail. This is my 1st vert I have owned but have owned many other 3rd gen and 2nd gen birds over the years. This explains everything I need to know to get the parts I need to fix her vert.

Thanks again Lon,
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Re: third brake light lens

I still didn't see a clear comparison above. I have an '88 Camaro convertible and all the pictures I've seen seem to show that the center portion of the rear spoiler is the same as the '88 Iroc coupe. They both have the brake light and all else looks the same. Anyone know and agree? One of the fist response seemed to agree and the convertible photo is identical to mine.

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Re: third brake light lens

the only thing that is the same is the brakelight lens/housing wich doesn't come apart i don't think and the long piece with the 6 sets of contacts for the bulbs i would imagine the wiring harness ends i dunno only 2 wires the lens itself measures 13" 13/16th's long and right at 1 1/2" wide these measurements are from mine which is early 88 i know the earlier gm cars 60's had the year model stamped on the lens this one is stamped... dot guide 87 1f for whatever thats worth and 20 FEB 87 on the housing part of the lens

btw this is info for a camaro
mine may be the ford one as earlier stated

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Re: third brake light lens

lonsal, do you know what the ford application was for the third brake light lens on the 87 camaro verts? Mine is cracked and I would sure like it to look new now that it has been repainted (original). Thanks for any help. I'm looking for one more item and it is the top folding instruction decal that is under the tonneau cover. Mine is there, but needs replaced. I called and emailed ASC but they are slow to no response. Thanks, Topless87
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Re: third brake light lens

From Willie:
"The 1987 Camaro convertibles had a unique rear spoiler & third brake lamp. This lamp is a Ford part, used on mid-80s Ford station wagons, i.e. Country Squire. Although it appears to be bolted to the spoiler itself, it is not. It uses a bracket that bolts to the lid within the spoiler, which makes it "float". The assembly itself was delivered to ASC who performed the convertible conversion. They would literally sand the "Ford" (with oval) off the lens, then re-polish it. All remaining text remained."

Also check this thread: http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/co...-vert-3rd.html

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