Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-06-2015, 10:59 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
nasty 90rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 RS Camaro. Kind of.
Engine: 383 sbc
Transmission: 700r4 built 2200 stall
how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Well, like the title would suggest. I'm interested is seeing what you all did to mount you're 3 row radiators. there doesn't seem to be a damn thing out there to mount an aluminum 3 row rad in our vehicles out there. I've got the lower mounts figured, and started to fab some mock ups for the upper hold down. trial and error is running thin on me at this point. would very much so appreciate seeing or hearing what some of you all have done. Thanks in advance.
Old 07-13-2015, 10:05 PM
  #2  
Member

iTrader: (1)
 
SilverChicken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 211
Received 20 Likes on 17 Posts
Car: 1986 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 383 SBC
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: Hawks 8.8 with 4.10’s
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

I made it all fit. Used polyurethane universal radiator mounts from jegs by setting 3/16" thick bar stock into the recesses on the rad support. Once your radiator is out you'll see what I'm talking about. The lower rubber isolators are contoured to fit it, the universals are flat. Other than that I built the rest using sheet metal. For the upper mounts I also reused the stock rubber isolators but trimmed them up to fit around the much wider rad. If it weren't for needing the fan shroud to replace the missing factory one I wouldn't have had to go through all the extra work. The stock plastic upper mount works if you trim the isolators.



Upper mounts were easy.






These 2 pictures are the plates I made to seal the radiator so air goes through instead of around. Those hoses go to the trans cooler in front of the radiator.

Last edited by SilverChicken; 07-13-2015 at 10:29 PM.
Old 07-14-2015, 06:53 AM
  #3  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
RedLeader289's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,483
Received 106 Likes on 87 Posts
Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 385 Fastburn
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: BorgWarner 9-bolt posi, 3.27 gears
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Don't know what kind of set up you're running but I was able to fit a 3-row radiator with stock pieces (fan shroud) on my '83. I believe it's a copper radiator though (it's all black, but it is metal).
Old 07-14-2015, 08:10 AM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (25)
 
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Enschede, Netherlands
Posts: 5,357
Received 42 Likes on 33 Posts
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator



Old 07-15-2015, 11:23 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
nasty 90rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 RS Camaro. Kind of.
Engine: 383 sbc
Transmission: 700r4 built 2200 stall
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Thanks for the pics and info guys. I already figured it out. Silverchicken, looks like we had the same idea as far as the universal mounts from jegs goes. I had to cut and refab some of the lower pan to make it all nice and tight. As far as the upper hold down. Did you know that one from a 2nd Gen will work? With a small bit of modification. Found a chrome one from So Cal speed shop. Sucks that it's chrome, but oh well. Guess I'll have one thing to match the valve covers lol.
Old 07-15-2015, 11:33 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
nasty 90rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 RS Camaro. Kind of.
Engine: 383 sbc
Transmission: 700r4 built 2200 stall
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator










Old 07-20-2015, 08:51 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (11)
 
DynoDave43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 4,637
Received 751 Likes on 577 Posts
Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Is that the setup you came up with for your car, nasty 90rs? Looks nice. Did you buy that top plate/mount? Looks chrome.
Old 07-20-2015, 09:36 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
t-top havoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Mid West
Posts: 2,350
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: '87 Camaro
Engine: '92 Carb'd 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: factory stock
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Great to know a 2nd Gen top brace will work!

VERY INTERESTED in seeing how you go about fan(s) mounting.
Old 07-21-2015, 09:43 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
nasty 90rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 RS Camaro. Kind of.
Engine: 383 sbc
Transmission: 700r4 built 2200 stall
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Yeah dynodave, it's chrome. Picked it up for 25$.
T-top havoc, I'll post picks when I get the fans mounted. I've got a pusher and 2 pullers.my be a while tho. I've moved on the engine assembly.
Old 07-23-2015, 09:11 PM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
Mickeyruder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mn
Posts: 64
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' camaro rs
Engine: Sbc 327
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: Stock 10 bolt w/posi 3.90 gears
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Nasty 90rs what modifications did you have to do to mount that 2nd gen mount? I've wondering for a long if one of these would work!! Thank you haha!! I'm going with the kks motorsports 3 row aluminum rad. With their shroud and dual fans. I hope it's good quality like they claim...
Old 07-24-2015, 11:27 AM
  #11  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
nasty 90rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 RS Camaro. Kind of.
Engine: 383 sbc
Transmission: 700r4 built 2200 stall
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

I've got the same radiator and fan set up mickeyruder. I hope so too. The price was almost to good to be true. As far as the upper mount, I had to fill in some holes one the upper core support, redrill some new ones, and cut two relief notches in the radiator hold down so it would seat on the tanks and cinch up nice and firm. Also had to weld a bolt in the center. There's no way to hold it after the radiator is in. That's it. After a few weeks of messing with it, and it turned out to be that easy haha. Almost makes me mad lol.
Old 07-24-2015, 07:35 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
Mickeyruder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mn
Posts: 64
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' camaro rs
Engine: Sbc 327
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: Stock 10 bolt w/posi 3.90 gears
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Oh wow ok nice!! Did you get the 1400 cfm fans or the optional 1800 cfms? That's per fan. We'll at least you got her to fit good!! What kind of fan control are you going with? And how did you mount the bottom of the radiator and also the top to the 2nd gen mount? Sorry for all the questions but I'm going to be doing the same exact thing.
Old 07-25-2015, 09:59 AM
  #13  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
nasty 90rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 RS Camaro. Kind of.
Engine: 383 sbc
Transmission: 700r4 built 2200 stall
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Mickeyruder, no worries about the questions man. I hope I can help. I started this completely blind. That's what brought me to this forum. I believe they are the 1400cfm fans. I got the radiator/fan package. No shroud. I'm planning on going with a toggle switch for the fan control. I'm keeping this car as simple as possible. For the bottom, I got some universal rubber isolators from jegs. What I did was where the stock isolators are I used that as a guide and cut the core support in front of those out so the radiator will fit all the way down. I cut the stock isolators I guess in half? So I could still use the part that the AC unit sits in. Cut the universal isolators so that they fit the rad ranks and butt into the ones that hold the AC unit, drilled a new hole for that little rubber nipple, made sure the rad fit snug, then made up and welded some front stops so they can't move forward on me and hold those isolators in place. The top boltspot down to the upper core support in the same manner the stock one does like I explained in my previous reply. My plan is to start with a fourth gen fan shroud and see if I can make that work with this setup. I've heard they work well with minor mods, but I haven't seen it done with the way I've started things. So we'll see. If not, I'll just make my own. I'm starting to have fun working with metal the more I learn. Hope this helps and I didn't ramble off and make it to confusing to read. If anyone has any other input I'd be stoked to here it. Cuz I'm not a professional mechanic or fabricator. Just going off of what makes sense to me and the research I've done.
Old 07-25-2015, 11:01 AM
  #14  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
Reid Fleming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,118
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 11 Posts
Car: 1989 GTA
Engine: SuperRam 350
Transmission: Pro Built S/S TH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Cut the lower rubber isolators down to the bare minimum. Should have just saved time and used tiny pieces of bicycle inner tube. Cut the rubber isolators on top and put it back in the stock way. I did require having a friend of mine screw the bolts into the top piece while I pulled it backwards and down (to get the bolt holes lined up)

Name:  DSC03388_zpsb525bacd.jpg
Views: 3639
Size:  66.8 KB

Name:  DSC03386_zpsf273d3e8.jpg
Views: 2755
Size:  61.1 KB

It's tight. But it does fit.
Old 12-06-2015, 09:43 PM
  #15  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
nasty 90rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 RS Camaro. Kind of.
Engine: 383 sbc
Transmission: 700r4 built 2200 stall
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator




Here's how I decided to fab mine up.
Old 12-26-2015, 05:05 AM
  #16  
Junior Member
 
martindforsythe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Henderson, Tn
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: !984 Firebird
Engine: 383 pretty soon
Transmission: 700R4 from TCI
Axle/Gears: 8.8" 3.73 yokon street with discs
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Would it be possible to get a list and part numbers of everything you were able to buy for this?
Old 12-30-2015, 01:38 AM
  #17  
Supreme Member

 
Ron U.S.M.C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern, CA
Posts: 4,482
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z Camaro
Engine: TBI,5.0
Transmission: Automatic 700R4
Axle/Gears: Eaton Posi,3.42,LPW Ultimate Cover
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Its not a three row but needed an extension any way. Just a thick piece of black plastic with holes drilled and some fasteners.

Old 12-30-2015, 02:54 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
peterc005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 839
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1988 IROC Camaro (RHD)
Engine: 350 ci L98 SBC
Transmission: T700
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt BW, Disk, Posi-traction
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Couple of good ideas here.
Old 12-30-2015, 03:47 AM
  #19  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (25)
 
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Enschede, Netherlands
Posts: 5,357
Received 42 Likes on 33 Posts
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

same type of setup as on the supercharged gta in my previous post



Similar on my 87 camaro
Old 01-05-2016, 11:40 AM
  #20  
Senior Member

 
gta_knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: England
Posts: 941
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Car: 1987 GTA
Engine: 350 TPI w/ extras !
Transmission: 700R4
Re: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator

Great read, ive just bought a 3 row rad for my 87 and i was wondering how much modding and cutting was required etc. doesnt look too bad !

Looking at all these pictures im thinking i might make my own top support and ditch the stock one.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
3
12-10-2019 07:07 PM
Bohemian
History / Originality
24
08-15-2017 05:11 PM
tommy z-28
Cooling
5
10-06-2015 10:58 PM
Bubbajones_ya
Cooling
23
09-14-2015 08:38 PM
IROCZDAVE (88-L98)
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
0
09-02-2015 08:49 AM



Quick Reply: how did you mount you're 3 row radiator



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:03 AM.