Gallileo60

Also what kind of upper strut mounts are those????

88fastgta

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sure i will get close up pics of the coil tomorrow.... its dark out here in north carolina already.....

88fastgta

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im using umi adjustable strut mounts... it allows better caster and camber adjustments that are not possible with stock strut mounts... these also use chrome moly teflon spherical bearings instead of the stock rubber ones and they provide extra travel for lowered cars which my car is lowered....highly suggest getting these if your serious about handling.... here is the link to the caster plates

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=402

Gallileo60

Oh yes am serious about handling..Have a ton in the suspension already..Just put new mounts on mine, but would love the extra camber....Those look tight also...My 89 is a real canyon carver as it is, blows my 92 Z28 away..Of course it is about 500 pounds lighter too which helps a bunch..Thanks for the reply..I look forward to reading more on your install......Good luck...

88fastgta

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i have tons of suspension mods myself.... its pretty much full bolt on from front to back...i would put that summit card on those umi plates and use it to beef up that 89... they are worth it
350tpi's are nice but they need alot of work to get decent numbers out of them.. i would rather have a cornering freak than a all out powerhouse for the street......

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/UPI-2040-B/

Gallileo60

Thats about all i dont have on it have umi control arms, and panhard hothkis subframe connects, all energy suspension pieces, even a arm bushings..Am going to look into those, they really look neat..i have a, lot more invested in the drive train, than the motor, or i should say the underneath of the car..It launches way better than the 92, out handles it too..of course past 100 foot the 92 has its way with its weaker brother......i kinda like having both the 89 runs 14's the 92 13's, so they are both fun to drive...the 02 Z has energy suspetion parts, but thats about it....500 pound difference in weight too tho like i said.Thanks..Tom

keep us posted.......

88fastgta

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well guys im goin to start now.... so ill be back tonight with pictures of the teardown.......

88fastgta

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ok guys i started tearing down the old tpi... i just got off work so i only spent about an hour and im already down to just the base and dizzy.... i will mark the dizzy positions on the firewall so i wont have to take the spark plug out and find top dead center and all.. marking makes it close and will start right up without much issues... i will still need to use a timing light just to make sure but it saves alot of time..... just trying to get a early start.... will start back sunday morining....

88fastgta

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i already started putting on the custom fuel lines and the vacuum line to the new regulator.... looks nice and neat and sorta looks factory...

88fastgta

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and the two plenums side by side..... i dont have a picture showing this but the ports are MUCH bigger on the first and the plenum is bigger than the stock plenum....

88fastgta

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ok guys everything is off... goin to put the base on in a couple hours... need to clean up the ports and everything...

gbayfisher

Nice and clean.
Good progress!
I see you have your oil sender in place

Once you put the base on, check our port alignment if you can to see if they line up. Mine had to be milled to get the perfect line up. That is with milled heads and block.

Gallileo60

Hope we get some before, and after 1/4 miles times, and mileage.....................

88fastgta

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well ran into two problems...

1... the oil sending unit adapter is too wide so i had to get a much smaller one to fit.... got that resolved..

2... the intake bolt holes dont quite line up to the head.... so i have to enlarge all the holes one size up on the intake manifold for it to work......

i have to go to work so i will resume either later today or early in the morning monday..

seanof30306

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My bet is you'll be really happy with that 3.42 gear. Can't wait to see how it all turns out for you. Good Luck!

88fastgta

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well i finally got the manifold on.... it was a major pita to install because the bolt holes were a little off and the oil sending unit adapter was hitting the back of the base.... so we had to enlarge every intake bolt hole a little bit and grind the 90 degree oil adapter... but after five hours of trail and error my dad and i finally got the intake on.... and its sealed good... we used plenty of rtv sealant across the back and front of the block and put a little bit of rtv around the water passages....


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88fastgta

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shortly after i got the injectors and fuel rail on and the custom fuel lines are all on the engine.... (excuse the valve covers... new valve covers are coming shortly..)

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88fastgta

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i already have all the driver side runners on...... i will finish up the passenger side runners in the morning.... I will get more pictures tomorrow im about 80 percent complete here.... everything else is a cake walk now.... i will be done tomorrow... so i will be starting it up tomorrow evening....

Orr89RocZ

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prepare to retune

88fastgta

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thanks man..... yeah i will get it retuned pretty soon

88fastgta

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well i got the runners and plenum on.. those were a cakewalk to do.... just need to put the dizzy in and a little things now.. should be all finished up in a few hours... this thing looks insane in the engine bay...... valve covers should be coming soon.....

88fastgta

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INTAKE IS DONE....... 100 PERCENT COMPLETE.... combination of superrams peformance and top end with tpi low end grunt will make the first the best of both worlds......

thegooseman

Looks really good. Maybe I should ditch my miniram too for this piece.

88fastgta

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if its strictly street use its hard to beat a first intake with supporting mods.... i havent started it yet... need to get coolant...

GTA90X

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I've been following this thread closely and want to say thanks for documenting everything in such detail. I plan on topping off my new 383 with a First sometime next spring and all your info has been extremely helpful.

Looks great and can't wait to hear how it all turns out.

88fastgta

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thanks man...... i cant wait to start it up today.... i will let you guys know the difference....

dspencer24

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I wish this came in a Ca smog legal version

86T/A_Ram_Air

hope you get a start up video....and i can't wait to see the results

thegooseman

I thought there was a provision for the egr. If there is it would be pretty damn hard to tell the difference from a stock manifold to this if your a smog tech. Unless that tech knows a thing or two about thirdgens.

88fastgta

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there is a port for an egr.... i didnt use it because im not running a egr..... i have a start up and idle video tomorrow as well as what improvements this has over my old tpi

3rd gen Will

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Problem for using it in CA is aftermarket parts have to carry a CARB EO number, if it doesn't have that you can't use it. $1200+ bucks is kinda spendy for a manifold you "might" get away with using and if you do get busted I think there are fines involved.

3rd gen Will

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Looking good man! is the TPS just a bolt on item? I noticed it wasn't on in any of the pics.

dspencer24

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yeah this is exactly why I have an accel base and runners for now. My old man is a smog tech and he knows his cars well he has called me out on a few items not having e.o numbers.

That intake is looking great on top of ur engine tho cant wait to see the video. Did you do any porting or siamesing

Sojer

i wish i had that kinda cash thats just what i need i want 2 keep the tpi look with about 350 no more than 500 to the fly im running a LB9 mild cam full exhst 9bolt 327

TORN

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Update?

86T/A_Ram_Air

hes oviously out enjoying it!!!

88fastgta

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sorry guys i took too long..... this thing has soooo much more low end and top end that its not even funny.. really pulls hard to about 5800rpms.. i will not fool with another gm tpi ever again after running the FIRST.. defintely runs like a raped ape...... i would highly suggest getting one of these....... ill have a video here shortly.....

88fastgta

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sorry for the delay... yes there is a place for the tps switch... i just didnt bolt it on during any of the pics..... its in the same location where it at on the stock throttle body.....

BLKIROCZ87

Wow congrats!!! you def feel a diff. huh.. Did you have to tune it if so was it difficult...?

Cant wait to see vid, def make one..

88fastgta

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more like a huge difference.. all on the same tune i had with pcmforless with my old tpi.. im telling you you guys really need to grab on of these... there is no comparison between the two.. i would love to see a stockish ls1 and murder him...i feel that confident.

Recaro trans am

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I need this!!!!! Has anyone used this with a blower set up? If so what kind of results?

seanof30306

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Next project needs to be to let that puppy BREATHE!

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ipe/index.html

88fastgta

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idle video with the FIRST TPI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZSIz_Fv7aw

seanof30306

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Man, I love the way that sounds. i never realized an LT4 HotCam had that much lope at idle.

How much vacuum do you have at idle?

Hmmmm ... a lot less lope here, and much quieter, yet the exhaust is listed as the same. What's different?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kij_l...eature=related

88fastgta

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thanks man..... mods are in the "show more" section of the youtube page.... i love the way the hotcam sounds for my setup..... i dont want to change cams but i want to get rid of those garbage l98 iron heads for some afr heads now... i had the idle set at 850 from my old tune..... im not sure about the vacuum at idle but it i havent had problem with stalling out or anything.... now i know why its called the "FIRST" it comes in first place when it comes to tpi...... and people say you cant have tpi and a lumpy idle.....

88fastgta

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Hmmmm ... a lot less lope here, and much quieter, yet the exhaust is listed as the same. What's different?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kij_l...eature=related[/quote]


i used a different phone for that particular video... it sounds way muffled and bassy..... plus my chip was tuned for the old tpi... i guess with the added air and more power it changed the sound of the cam im not sure but it does sound lumpier for sure.... .

seanof30306

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No, what I was saying was, in the older video of your car I posted, it was much quiter, and seemed to lope less. When I checked the mods you listed on both videos, both list the long tubes, 3", and Flowmaster 80. Was the older one before you hogged out the cat, maybe?

seanof30306

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i used a different phone for that particular video... it sounds way muffled and bassy..... plus my chip was tuned for the old tpi... i guess with the added air and more power it changed the sound of the cam im not sure but it does sound lumpier for sure.... .[/QUOTE]

Lumpier is better!

And that Flowmaster 80 sure sounds a lot better than my Flowmaster 40. Do you end up getting any "special attention" from LE with that exhaust?

88fastgta

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your right i havent changed the exhuast.... the only thing i have changed engine wise was the intake.... i used a video camera for the first tpi where i had used my camera video phone for all the others... the video camera sounds alot better than my cheap camera phone which doesnt pick up sound nearly as good. i didnt sound that lumpy with the old tpi im guessing because with my old system i had the chip tuned for that car.... but since i changed to the FIRST it idles meaner.... im guessing its because the new intake changed the air delievery and the computer trying to compensate for it.... either way im sure when i get a tune it will smoothen out abit.....

88fastgta

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Lumpier is better!

And that Flowmaster 80 sure sounds a lot better than my Flowmaster 40. Do you end up getting any "special attention" from LE with that exhaust?[/quote]

to be exact my exhuast mods are

hedman long tube headers with custom 3 inch flanges with custom oxygen sensor bung into the driver side header

3 inch y pipe made at henry's muffler shop

gutted 3 inch catco converter

flowmasters 80 series

3.5 inch tips.....

its a new fresh block with a much better roatating assembly and slightly higher compression than stock..... the engine has alot of special work done to it... its .6 grams off from being perfectly balanced.. it has been blueprinted and the rings have been specially gapped for street strip use...... the heads have been rebuilt from the ground up using manely parts to handle the hotcams lift.... i did not use gm's spring kit for the hotcam because they barely pass for being able to withstand the hotcam so i used much beefier springs.....