ringo234

The Heading is:
"WALBRO 255 LPH FUEL PUMP Chevy Camaro Corvette 255lph "

But if you read through about 3 long paragraphs you come to this line:
"TREperformance fuel pumps ARE NOT Walbro fuel pumps, but flow very similar to Walbro"

Just a head-ups to anyone who really wants a Walbro fuel pump.

I didn't find out until it was too late. I have filed a complaint to E-bay who has agreed to investigate.

At best this add is intentionally misleading and at worst an outright fraud.


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I heard back from "TREperformance fuel pumps"
This a copy of there reply:
Here is what we will do:

Return the pump unopened in new condition, leave positive feedback without degrading remarks, then we will refund you 100%.

Respond to this email confirming and we will send you an RMA number.

Nick
TREperformance.com
760-586-5617 "

I hate having to give a positive feedback but I do need my refund.

I could let ebay and paypal investigate but that could take a long time.

I will probably give a very generic feedback and be more careful in the future.


I was just refunded the full amount including shipping. Too bad I had to leave POS feedback to get it though.

1991CamaroRslow

iTrader: (3)

I ran into those same pumps a while back for something in the range of 59 dollars. After reading closer I found that they weren't in fact Walbro pumps. I already had a 255 but they looked like a steal until I read that. They're probably basic pumps branded as Walbro types. If they are in fact Walbro type pumps they're probably built by the same manufacturer, you'de really have to pull one apart to see what's going on inside of it.

roughskinjrz

85% of the people who sell on ebay, mislead their ads

smartman__007

iTrader: (1)

I've actually bought this exact misleading pump. I read LIKE WALBRO 255.. So of course i read and found it was in fact an offbrand that flowed similar but just didnt have the walbro name. It's in fact a good pump with everything The brand is still reputable just not well known as WALBRO. Flows well and Pressure is up there enough for a TBI system. TBI Guys on a budget use this pump as it wont kill your pocket book and will still flow just as well as a genuine Walbro unit, just without the name. Read closely If it seems to good to be true. it probably is

Tony89GTA

iTrader: (7)

It don't look anything like the WALBRO pump I installed awile back but hey if it works guess it wouldn't be to bad all though the title in the add is BS.

400Z28Racer

iTrader: (4)

You got that wrong, and I think you do not have enough experience on how to buy on eBay yet

smartman__007

iTrader: (1)

, It's selective reading. They are actualy advertising to their benefit telling you what their product is "ALMOST" like. They're saving you a deal of money and the person i bought it from is the best i've dealt with in a while. He's just appealing to a wide margin of people searching for that type of pump. He got me what I wanted, and at a cheaper price. Ebay's a good place if you know what you're doing. Just like buying from a private dealer.

shaggy56

Remember when you buy brand name you are paying for their advertising and extra fancy packaging. Big reason why less known brands will be cheaper. My father used to work for wakefern food marts and the store brands actually bought their products in bulk from the name brand companies and packaged them cheaper and sold them for less.

roughskinjrz

ive been using ebay for years, and have sold/purchased over $25,000 worth of merchandise. i find alot of users seem to go off track a little on what the items condition really is but i guess its the buyers fault.

you get users who try to charge tax after auction is over, users who charge triple shipping for an item so they can make an extra buck, users who want to keep your money and think they can get away with it, send you a package with foam in it, etc.

ive had tons of great experiences with ebay, but also lots of bad ones so i guess its personal experience for my opinion.

1991CamaroRslow

iTrader: (3)

I don't mislead ANY of my auctions but I sell collectible merchandise so it really doesn't pay to try and trick someone. eBay is a great marketplace to get what you want, feedback matters ALOT. There are several companies on eBay that i'de trust to buy generic products from and several places that I wouldn't buy name brand products from (SSAutochrome anyone??). eBay really is a great example of a free market and it's buyer beware, it takes a little extra work but it's well worth it in the end.

II Fast

Thats one thing I hate about ebay, they don't really monitor bad sellers at all.

3.8TransAM

Actually the fake wanna be Walbro's are an inferior pump.

They might pass in a low pressure TBI setup, but anything with true port or boost, it will get ugly.

Lot of these have made it into turbobuick land with people wanting to save a buck.

Most ended up spending anothwer $100 on a real fuel pump.

later
Jeremy

rideon1200

You buy brand name so you know what to expect. You wouldnt want to go to Mcdonalds and the burgers taste differant everytime. You expect performance and qaulity you have always gotten from brand names. Also beware when you buy knockoffs. I almost purchased a stock shined up manifold, it stated "performance manifold".

penji04

Thats why you always read every word of an auction and if you have any questions you ask them and save the responsed till your satisfied with the product. Ive had very good luck with e-bay buying and selling. Hope everything gets sorted out for you Ringo234. Most good sellers will try to make you happy just give them a chance to make it right.

ringo234

I'm posting this in case someone didn't read the edited first post.

I heard back from "TREperformance fuel pumps"
This a copy of there reply:
Here is what we will do:

Return the pump unopened in new condition, leave positive feedback without degrading remarks, then we will refund you 100%.

Respond to this email confirming and we will send you an RMA number.

Nick
TREperformance.com
760-586-5617 "

I hate having to give a positive feedback but I do need my refund.

firebirdjosh

iTrader: (1)

He will have your money, your pump, and your feedback? Sounds like a potential problem... "yeah I'll refund you in a few weeks" is always a possibility if he's dishonest.

1991CamaroRslow

iTrader: (3)

That's just eBay politics, you'll probably get your 100% refund as soon as the pump arrives back at there store. I can tell you now it sucks pretty bad to have someone disatisfied, give them a 100% refund, only to have them post a negative about you. You can't argue much with a full refund, and if he screws you like that you can always file the complaint with eBay.

Smellofrubber

Leave + feedback on the shipping, and then once the refund is handled go back and revise your feedback to the truth.
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hopefully he used paypal, and then he will have them on his side. I use to sell/buy alot on ebay. there has been a few time i had to ebay and paypal involved. and they can help alot!!!! Im do not do businness with the one that dont except paypal, those ore ussaly the shady ones.

ringo234

Yes I paid with paypal. The feedback I left was "Quick Shipping". I'm now waiting for the RMA#.

ringo234

I was just refunded the full amount including shipping. Too bad I had to leave POS feedback to get it though.

seanof30306

iTrader: (4)

You really don't have a case with ebay on the misleading ad title, as the true nature of the pump was disclosed in the body of the ad. It sucks, but they don't usually act in those situations.

You do, however, have an issue with his holding you up on the refund till you left positive feedback. Ebay's TOS says he can't do that. You now have your money back, so there's no way he can hold that over your head anymore. It's time to spank him a little.

Yes, you can add a comment to your feedback, but, that doesn't change the fact that the original feedback was positive, which is all he's concerned about. Very few people actually go and read a seller's feedback, they only see the % positive displayed on the ad.

I'd email ebay, forwarding them his correspondence, and ask that your feedback be changed to negative and that you be allowed to change the text to reflect his blackmailing you. They probably won't do that, but they will probably remove your feedback and warn him about the practice. If enough people have complained, he could be delisted.

By the way, I always use my credit card on PayPal purchases, and never leave money sitting idle in my PayPal account. That way, I'm doubly protected. If there's a problem, I call my credit card company first. They're very quick about refunding the money, and they lean towards you, their customer. Once PayPal is out the money, they're much quicker about getting THEIR money back from the offender.

Also, before contacting PayPal, I have the bank put a temporary hold on PayPal charges against my credit card, AND my bank account. PayPal's TOS allows them to withdraw disputed amounts from your accounts without your consent if they rule against you. So, even though your credit card company has reversed the charge from PayPal to you, PayPal can go right back to the credit card, or your bank account, and get the money back. It's much harder to get your bank to reverse a charge, so they're more likely to go to the bank account. That's why I put the temporary holds on the accounts before I take the dispute to PayPal. You're in a much stronger negotiating position if you already have the money back, and PayPal can't get their money back from anywhere but the other party.

jessesievers

DON'T buy from evovector on ebay. The product and customer service is junk. I got a faulty product and no refund, and he want me to pay to ship back to him, Fraud Fraud Fraud

rmartin4677

i have had 2 bad deals on ebay, dont wait on them. i sold a car then never heard for the guy or back from ebay

vexter

iTrader: (3)

With respect to having to leave positive feedback for him on ebay, smile and leave the positive. Once you have your refund in hand, open a few extra ebay accounts, win a few of his auctions, never respond to him and leave him several negatives (from seperate ebay accounts). That's what I do for the real losers on ebay. I've left one guy four negatives over the course of the last two years and he has no idea it's from me or why it's happening.... which is fine with me.

kaptinkafeen

iTrader: (2)

Can you please explain this for me a bit better - I got a bit lost in your explanation regarding calling your credit card company first when there is a problem. If someone pulls a fast one on you, but you don't find out until let's say you receive the item in the mail, how can what you suggest help? I use my c-card all the time to pay for items off of ebay, once it's paid, how can you call the credit card company 2-3days latter and have the transaction reversed?
I'm confused.

1991CamaroRslow

iTrader: (3)

Ebay has a very extensive network set up to prevent fraud. Basically if you get something you're unsatisfied with, you can go through eBay and force a return. If you get something that's blatantly fraudulent eBay will handle it. In the case of these pumps the eBay ad is NOT fraudulant. He states the the pump isn't actually a walbro 255 in the description. You have to read the fine print on these ads. Doing stuff like having your credit card reverse payments isn't the first thing you should do. As for the seller wanting his item back before a refund, wouldn't you? If it bothers you that much ask him to split the return shipping, if he blatantly frauded you contact eBay and they'll handle it. If you do get blatantly frauded you don't send the item back to the seller, you contact eBay and you send the item to them. They sort it out for you from there.

Gallileo60

Thats one reason, I am so damn leary of E-bay, I like to see it before I buy it.

tom3

I'm with the original poster. For a third gen and that hard to get to fuel pump, I want the best I can get back there, no "like" or "as good as" stuff. For sure on ebay you have to read everything close and I even check into feedback amounts, comments and what was bought/sold. Buyer beware, but I've been pretty satisfied with what I've bought on there.

rideon1200

I think you can go back several months. You dont just say, I will take credit cards. You have to fill out a contract. The contracts has stipulations such as that in it.

Stevo

iTrader: (45)

Ya i see those adds...sucks they look almost too good to be true. Looking at hte real walbro pumps for sale on ebay all then say like 85-91? What about us 92 camaros...are they just messed up or what? I dont know the difference between a 91 and a 92. Where do you guys go to buy your walbro pumps?

1991CamaroRslow

iTrader: (3)

Buy the cheapest 255lph pump possible and buy a small length of J30 R10 line from apeusa.com. Matter of fact just buy your pump from them seeing as how they rule.

WhiteKnight

A bunch of ebay sellers have misleading ads because they know alot of people are just plain stupid. One of my friends has sold a few boxes for electronics becase people are too stupid and lazy to read the whole ad.

Xbox 360 console box for sale.

write a huge speel about the system and games and stuff. Include the fact that sale is for the box only. Take a picture of the box to post, and people will bid hundreds for it. He has no problem making money off of lazy ignorant people.

HD4mula

Yeah. Is by dishonest $$oles like your friend that Ebay gets bad name. But we have those everywhere...


On another note this TRE Performance was usually advertising AFR heads without being in stock. And nowhere in the ad said it. I knew it and asked and that's how I got the info. Another dishonest trick....

Berlinetta00

I noticed the area code for TREperformance was 760... that's here in north county, near Camp Pendleton. Ive never heard of that company, and I know (or thought I did) every speed shop in town. If they have an address, Ill be happy to physically check them out. Its fun to be a Marine sometimes

On the ebay note, it is a gamble- you take a risk for a pay off. I got a tricked out Jet Ski for $1,000 and I paid $60 for a timing cover that was 40 years old and cracked. Just like a game of poker, sometimes you win, sometimes you end up naked and cold while the girls are laughing at your pony-shaped birth mark....(dont ask)

Justin89Formy

iTrader: (26)

I agree. Im a powerseller and have nothing but excellent transactions. Ive been a powerseller about 2 years now.