scooterist50

Whats royal purple and how should i use it? what are the pros and cons? is it good for race,stock, or what? how is it used? ALSO----> How is "trick shift" used and what are its advantages? please give me your opinions and applications of these, i appreciate it guys!!

I H8 WWD

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Royal Purple makes Motor Oil, Tranny Fluid, Gear Lube, Coolant Additive, and Power Steering Fluid.

Royal Purple is the Rolls Royce of Lubricants. Plus one of the few to have DYNO PROVEN results after changing oil, gear lube and tranny fluid.

Here is why Royal Purple Says to use their product.

Feel the Difference

The most frequent comment from customers is how they can feel the difference in their vehicles after switching to Royal Purple. For instance, Royal Purple® Motor Oil typically improves horsepower and torque up to 3%. It also reduces fuel consumption by as much as 5% and typically reduces emissions 20% or more. Performance gains will vary depending on the type of vehicle, its condition, and the way it's driven. Visit our test summary page for independent test results that document these performance gains.

Superior Technology Creates Superior Products

Synerlec® is Royal Purple's proprietary, lubricant technology that strengthens the oil to provide unmatched performance and protection. It also creates an ionic bond that adheres to metal parts for continuous protection, even after shutdown. Synerlec® is the cornerstone of Royal Purple's automotive products.



High Film Strength Improves Performance

Film strength is a lubricant's ability to prevent contact between metal parts. Royal Purple's film strength is up to 400% stronger than other oils. This improves combustion for more power, better fuel economy and reduced emissions. High film strength also helps to dramatically reduce wear. According to the editors of Hot Rod magazine, “We've torn down some of our dyno engines that have been seriously abused, but with Royal Purple in the pan, the bearings have looked new.”

Reducing Friction Improves Performance

The primary purpose of oil is to reduce friction. Reducing friction increases horsepower and torque, and reduces fuel consumption, emissions, engine wear and heat. Royal Purple uses premium base oils with a very low coefficient of friction. Royal Purple also smoothes metal surfaces to further reduce friction. Royal Purple remains on the metal surface long after ordinary lubricants would have been squeezed out by pressure and heat. The oil layer responds to increased pressure with increased viscosity until the metal peaks (asperities) undergo deformation and flow into the low spots. Over time, the metal surface becomes extremely smooth and can even develop a mirror-like surface.

Take a look at the following photos:



(Left Picture)A new bearing surface appears smooth until magnified 1500X.

(Middle Picture)The same bearing surface roughened after using a leading synthetic oil.

(Right Picture)The same bearing surface after using Royal Purple.

Notice that after using Royal Purple® the bearing surface is now significantly smoother than it originally was. Smoother surfaces reduce friction for improved performance.



Increased Oil Life Saves Time, Money, and the Environment

Lubricants often have a service life of only 3,000 miles due to oxidation which reduces oil's ability to lubricate. Oil's ability to resist oxidation is measured by the ASTM's rigorous Thin Film Oxidation Uptake Test (TFOUT). The test is so severe that it lasts only 1300 minutes. Royal Purple not only surpasses leading mineral- and synthetic-based oils in the test, it also outlasts the duration of the test.
Royal Purple's superior oxidation stability enable oil changes to be extended up to 12,000 miles (or more depending on the equipment), saving money, saving time and reducing the amount of used oil that must be disposed of.
Visit our FAQs page for more information on oil change intervals and other commonly asked questions.

Apeiron

Trick Shift is B&M's name for plain old Ford Type F ATF with blue dye added. It contains different friction modifiers to work with the asbestos clutches in old Ford automatics, which makes the paper clutches in a GM automatic grab quicker and shift harder.

scooterist50

is trick shift not that big of a deal for my car then? and thanks for the royal purple ad that was awesome! where is it sold at and is it expensive??????????

I H8 WWD

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Here are all the prices via Summit Racing

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...00484&D=400484

Apeiron

I'd take the marketing copy with a dose of salt.

I H8 WWD

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Huh? Why not Pepper....makes ya sneeze?

scooterist50

well what can you guys tell me about "LUCAS OIL" products?

92 Formula

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...tabilizer.html

Personally I don't and won't use it.

rideon1200

Ok, a junior member since May 07 ask a ? about a product. Rather the generic answer we have pics, graphs and dyno info. I think it is time to lock this thread, I hope this doest become a board for people advertising there proiduct.

scooterist50

well we all know what marketers claim about there products isnt 100% true any ways-im just looking for a person to tell me about there personal encounters with the said products. whats wrong with lucas oil products?? says its the official oil of the nhra!

rideon1200

I wouldnt worry about brand too much. You have a 305 they last forever. You could proably whiz in that thing and get a couple hundred thousand miles more.

I H8 WWD

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Their just like the 700R....keep it maintained and that thing will go forever.

scooterist50

hahahahahahaha thats great man-thanx for the awesome answer oddly enuf that answers my question lol
oh and btw im not pizzing in it but point taken !

92 Formula

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Did you even bother to read the 3 page thread I provided a link to?! Read the thread and, personally, I would suggest you pay particular attention to Red Devil's, Vader's and 3.8 Trans Am's posts. Who cares if Lucas Oil is the sponsor of NHRA, you can sponsor the NHRA, too, if you have enough money.

If you do a search you will find MANY, MANY first hand experiences with every product you have asked about already. There was a very recent thread (as in still on the first page of this board) on Royal Purple products (mainly oil) with all the "first hand" reports you could ask for as well as all the people who follow whatever current product is currently in vouge (and judging from that thread there are many).

scooterist50

settle down i read it already and everyone has been very helpful i appreccciate everyones help!

92 Formula

iTrader: (2)

Settle down? You're the one asking the same questions that have answers already readily available, one, as I said, just a few threads down (Royal Purple oil) and the other I provided a link to but you ask the same question again. Use the search and learn.

scooterist50

ok anyways why are people so quick to get snippy on here ? i was looking for personal prefrences but like i already said i apprecciate all the info and help i did read the old threades but was looking for more info i wasnt trying to be unnappreciative i apologize

92 Formula

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scooterist50, the Lucas Oil thread...if you are still interested in it has some good info. When Vader speaks people should always listen, IMHO. RD knows his stuff darn well, too. I don't and wouldn't use it. I pointed you to that thread because it's already been talked about and some of the better people who are, or once were, on TGO posted in it. RD, please come back to us, I haven't seen you on TGO in a loooooong time.

Far as oil, I use Redline and have since, I guess, 2000. Before that I used Mobil 1. Royal Purple is great and Amsoil is very good, too. Or, just use a good oil and change it like you should. A search of these products will give you an abundance of very good information on them that will allow you to make an informed decision.

rideon1200

"when vader speaks we should all listen" ?????? WHY I think I heard that phrase on WWE 20 years ago, anyway. The guy has a 305, why would you need to use Royal Purple on a car that proably has over 100,000 miles when most 305 get over 150,000 even if you dog them. I had 196000 on mine and did an engine swap only because I wanted a 350. Look up the thread that talks about milage on our 305. 200000 is not uncommon, did they all use 350. I am glad you like RP. But the guy could go too 10000 web site from oil manufactors and they will all show charts and graphs. They will all have first hand reports. They will all tell you how far superior they are.

scooterist50

my camaro has 59,000 miles hence the wanting to use the best lubricants possible

92 Formula

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Guess reading is not your forte rideon1200. I don't use Royal Purple. I don't know what oil Vader uses but I know I didn't imply or say he uses Royal Purple. I do know, having been a LONG time member here, that Vader knows a ton more than 3/4 of the current TGO members put together. The Vader part, as well as RD, etc., is per scooterist50's Lucas Oil question. But, you can, by all means, run your own path if you desire. Nothing wrong with that, it's your money and your time. Personally, I'm foolish enough to learn from those that have demonstrated a LONG history of not having their heads up their nether regions but I'm crazy that way.

Royal Purple is a good oil and I don't and haven't questioned it, but it's popularity now, IMO, is mainly due to the fact that it's in vogue now due to heavy marketing in magazines and shows that they also sponsor. Again, if you've been around car boards, tracks and even meets it wasn't that long ago that Redline was in vogue, and Mobil 1, etc.

So basically, you've just repeated what's already been said and misread a great portion, too.

92 Formula

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Any of the oils already mentioned in this thread, if changed at the correct times will be fine.

When it comes to Lucas Oil or any other "snake oil" I would pass it up in a heartbeat.

Rumblin70SS

Hello there.........

I have a 1993 Formula Firehawk which I bought used 12 years ago with only 7000 original miles. The car is rarely driven, and it's even rarer it's driven hard. It has about 40,000 miles on the clock and I've always used castrol 10/30 synthetic oil and haven't had any issues.

Earlier this year, I switched over to the Royal Purple line of motor oils, just for the fact that maybe I could gain a couple of additional horsepower. A few months later, I noticed a ticking sound coming from the engine which has been diagnosed as a collapsed lifter. Is it a coincidence? I'm not sure. I can say that many years ago my father bought a brand new car and put Mobil 1 synthetic in it when it first came out. Immediately the car developed a knock and he traded it in on another car. Years later, Mobil 1 admitted to having a problem with it's formulation in the early years.

Were these oils the cause of either problem? I can't say for sure, but there's no way I'll use either one in my car ever again.

battyice

I wouldn't use any of their oil additives, but I have had good luck with their fuel treatment. I know some trucks who swear by Lucas 15w40 diesel oil.

f355bird

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All i can do is laugh when i read these threads about additives everyone believes
what they read but have nothing to prove any of the negatives. Personally i am not going to believe what some one discovered with a single test. I believe in what i have seen personally. I have been working in parts stores for about 6 years and have knowledge on every product on the shelf. I get feedback from tons of customers that use the products and find out if it is snake oil or if it really works. I have tons of repeat customers that have anything from grandma's stock chevy to full blown race cars. And that includes dirt track,drag,auto cross etc.. These people put their motors through a lot more than the average teenager and his stock little car. I had a incidence recently where a customer had 0 oil pressure in his astro van he bought a bottle of lucas oil stabilizer poured it in and had 40 lbs of oil pressure and has been driving it every since and buys a bottle every oil change. I had another customer that his car would not even move in forward or reverse he poured a bottle of lucas stop slip in and has been driving it for 2 years with no problems. My brothers gear box on his 3rd gen was leaking about a qt and half of fluid a day and poured in a bottle of lucas powersteering leak sealer in and it stopped his leak. My transmission was leaking a qt a day and also starting to slip i poured in a bottle of lucas and my transmission started working better so i bought another bottle to put in. This was after a week i checked the fluid so i could add it to it. And sure enough it was still full hadn't leaked a drop. I had to suck some out with a hand pump so i could add to it. And this was in a transmission with 260,000 miles that had been leaking for years the whole car was covered in crap underneath. I sell a 100 bottles of lucas to anything else on the shelf. Lucas is 9/10 times the one that people come in and request saying that someone sent them saying it is the only thing that works. This also includes the fuel treatment. I have a few people that buy restore and that is it everything else just sits on the shelf.

Trick shift is a bunch of crap. If u ever talk to any of professional transmission builders for any of the race cars they will all tell u that it will mess up your transmission.

As far as royal purple that is incredible stuff i have never seen any other oil work like it does. Any of my customer with any newer performance cars all by royal purple and swear buy it. Here is one thing that made me a believer out of it. Whenever oil breaks down and looses strengh it will turn black. Hence normally when u get around to changing its black. I ran royal purple in my engine it when in purple i drove it 7,000 miles changed the oil and it came out as purple as it went in. Other oils will come out the original color also but that is far less than 3,000 miles which was what i changed with normal oil.

Also this wasn't asked about but if u ever have a car that is older with low mileage or a car that was never driven hard or one that is having a hard time passing emissions. RXP is someone incredible stuff i have tons of customers that the only thing they come to buy is RXP some of them will buy any where from 4-10 bottles at a time any put it in anything they own that has motor. You know it has to be some good stuff when someone wants 10 bottles that are 2.5 oz's a piece and are 6.99 each. Most of the local places that do inspections will send customer to buy a bottle when they fail their emmisions tests.

johnfwz28

wow! i have read thread after thread on the trick shift fluid question, and i have not read one positive post about the fluid.is there ANYONE out there who has used the product in their CHEVY 7OO R4 tranny and have something GOOD to say??? sheesh!!!