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Old 09-15-2002, 11:27 PM
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Need help making decision, would you pay 6k for my car

Before I tell anyone why ...Does anyone think it would be possible to sell my car for $6,000 without motor.

I think everyone knows everything about my car, tranny is like brand new, interior is near perfect (have brand new carpet and overhead console to put in) Have 2 new tires for it, chrome 4th gen rims, 4th gen rear, edelbrock headers, borla exhaust, catco cat, ya know.

this is to help me make a decision.

the pic added below is a hint as to why I am thinking about doing this.

and also,,,,,I really have no clue if Im def. gonna do this, Im just asking for an idea if I could get that much for it. If you'd be interested also let me know.
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Not a chance dude.

Without the motor, thirdgens dont sell for crap.

I know its a badass car, but buyers know that cool paint, nicer interiors, and all that cool stuff youve done doesnt add to the market value of the car, or at least not much.

You might get 6000 for it with the motor.
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I'v been offered 15 with motor

how about if I did 8K with brand new motor, but in peices
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If you were really offered 15, you should have taken it. Thats what low mileage TTA's sell for. You could have two cars like that for that price.

Just set your price and see who bites. Who knows, you might get lucky.
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I was really offered 15, but there wasnt anything else I wanted then, I found a fairly rare GTA for sale today, still wanna verify its real before I go tellin all about it.
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You'll have an easier time selling it WITH a motor...

Otherwise you'll have to find an enthusiast which may be a but harder......
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Its already been said......driveable cars sell. Project cars, well, take some time.

Good luck.
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If you turned down a legitimate $15k offer, you deserve repeated kicks to the groin. You'll never get another offer like that.
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I would have to say yes you can. Can you sell it to someone like me for 6Gs? No you cant but can you sell it to some rich kid who is spending his rich Dads money and wants that car real bad. Yes there is your target. Keep in mind there are people out there like that maybe not on this board but they are out there. I know a few. sob I know is stuck on mustangs and has this little problem. He will buy a mustang, supercharge it blow the motor then buy another mustang supercharge it also and rag it till the motor blows. He has had 5 mustangs by now and a Dakota quad cab. Lucky but unlucky. I woulnt want to be spoiled like that.
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If the gta has an engine in it, why not just do an engine swap. You know yours to the gta and the gta to yours, both have engines and you are not left with an extra engine in your garage. Just a suggestion. Hope I could help. I agree with everyone else, noone wants a third gen with no engine. I don't think it will happen.
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Originally posted by jfox55
If the gta has an engine in it, why not just do an engine swap. You know yours to the gta and the gta to yours, both have engines and you are not left with an extra engine in your garage. Just a suggestion. Hope I could help. I agree with everyone else, noone wants a third gen with no engine. I don't think it will happen.
How about an engine with out a third gen? When I do the motor swap I'll have an engine with less then 50,000 miles on it.
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I could sell mine with the engine, but I wont have it back like that for a few more weeks. I'm affraid this car wont be around then. I'm probobly gonna go back tonight to check if its real.

Let me get the pics together and post them.
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If the car is real

1988 87U -- Exterior Color, Gunmetal Metallic -- 930 Made

then however lower that number gets considering diff. options that it has.

for now I blocked out the phone number cause I dont want someone stealing it out from under me

would you do? That thing is rare, you could build mine out of any 85-90 T/A
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Only way to find out is put it up for sale. $6k might be a little high for most only cause there is no motor, but that's not really that big of a deal, you just need to find someone that is looking for a nice car to drop their nice motor in.
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whoah, it's a Potiac!
Hey..where'd you get the production number for the paint code?
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Make sure you go to Frankie Rider's site and get his authentication page. I took a printout of it with me when I bought my GTA.

The real question is....what would you do with this Pontiac? Would you want to customize it? If it's so rare...would you keep it stock? Knowing you (and I don't really know you) and the way you've done that 86 TA....you wouldn't really be happy unless you had that thing repainted, rehooded, and completely customized. Think about your priorities. A GTA is rare indeed, let alone a grey one, but would you be happy? Just something to think about. Oh yeah....If I was car shopping, I'd only buy your car with engine. And then I'd expect to pay about 10k for it. The work you've put in merits that. But no engine....I don't know.

IMO, keep your current setup and either buy the GTA as well as a second show car, or don't bother with it.
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[QUOTE]If you turned down a legitimate $15k offer, you deserve repeated kicks to the groin. You'll never get another offer like that


You should track that guy down that offered that
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Yeah if I bought it, it would stay COMPLETELY stock. If I changed anything, possibly runners, I would keep the originals to put back on.

I have/had alot of fun with my car, but it wasnt rare in any way, I could make it out of any 85-90 T/A
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Why don't you just sell it with the engine???
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by the time the engine is in, that GTA will be gone, I highly doubt it will sit there for a few weeks.
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Just cause there were only 930 of those GTAs doesn't really matter too much collectibility wise, it's still just a GTA.
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I agree you're going to be very dissappointed if you think that just cause they only made under 1000 it will be worth more than any other color. Maybe if it was under 100. Maybe..

And I also agree if someone offered you 15G's for the car before you should have taken it and ran. I know I would have.
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I agree. The color doesn't really make it any more desirable. It's going to depreciate as fast as all the rest.
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And I also agree if someone offered you 15G's for the car before you should have taken it and ran. I know I would have.
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Can I have your car now????

Hell I will make it 20 G's
GGGGG
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I will never buy a thirdgen for more than 6k. Never, anymore and its just insane. I'd rather buy a newer camaro (preferably) stick shift 350, so its faster and newer. I don't understand how some of you thirdgener's think of more than 10,000 price tag. I mean do you really want to sell it? Most likely ya don't. Yes thirdgen's rule, but ya gotta remember not everyone else thinks the same way, at all.
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IMO, you've put wayyy too much time and money into your current car to be satisfied with any stock vehicle. Its going to get boring real quick not being able to do anything to your car since you'll be afraid of ruining its rareity. Keep yours and you'll be happier than if you bought this one. Havent you ever heard old men say "That car was great, sure wish I had it now.....", well, this will be your story, lol.
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Used car dealers don't even charge $6000 for thirgens, unless they are very low milage. That's a lot of money. There is always going to be some one who will pay a lot for a car, but the odds are 1 in million.
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put yourself in the buiyer point of view....here's your car 86 firebird, no motor but nice paint and interior etc...and there's some other car basically the same(maybe not as nice but thats impossible any:rockon: ) but it has a motor and maybe some other feature yours didn't, so whcih would you buy?

also some people don't like buying custom cars for some reason.

but my main question is...how much do you want for your hood and 4th gen spoiler?
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Here is some recent perspective for you. Joe has a 94 Camaro. His X-roomate stole the title and even with police reports no one seems to want to help get the title back. So after close to a year of run arounds, he hads decided to yank the engine and sell it w/o it. Now the title has definately caused problems since the car will never be street legal till all is sorted out. But he had it on ebay and only got $2100. He had a reserve of $2500. Then someone local was interested and is willing to drop cash in had now... Joe and he decided on $1900. Joe gets to keep the new rims and tires and put the stockers back on. The car has a new paint job, is perfectly straight, & has a clean decent interior.

Just wanted to show some perspective! Hope this helps!

As far as your car. Its a beautiful car, but most would perfer it be running. $6K if you had the time to sit on it, I'm sure the right person would come around, but it sounds like you want a quick sale to get this car and I don't see it happening. Sure the car is worth that with all you have done, but people rarely pay what a 3rd gen is worth! Not whan they can get a TA or Iroc for 2500-3500 and it be a decent car. Someone interested in a show car would pay that price, but you don't meet them everyday.
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I don't thirdgens are worth much due to the fact that so many were produced. They are probably the least desirable of the bunch. On the other hand, if a thirdgen could run low 12s or lower and had an unmolested body and interior, then I could see paying $6000. Fast cars in my neighbor hood sell for alot, especially when they produce in excess of 600 bhp and are still streetable. I would be willing to pay serious money for one of those monsters.
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I didnt take 15k for it cause I have 20-30k into it, I didnt wanna take a loss, just cause it was offered, If there was a TTA or something around when that was offered I would have sold it rite away.

ok you guys talked me into it, I'll keep mine

I think part of my problem is I dont even remember what its like to have my car since its been w/ out a motor for 4 months, all summer, its
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You'll be happy when youre behind the wheel of it again.

You're probably not that many mods away from ending up in some performance mags. Thats a stellar looking car.
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hey i owned my car for 2 yrs before i got to drive it on my own. i bought it when i was 16 and it wasnt inspected till this june. so i know what u mean but dude ur car is sweet as hell. u should keep it and take nothing for it.
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$6K with no motor is too steep. You shoulda taken the $15K offer man. Good luck with whatever you decide to do though.
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My dad is selling his 91 GTA with 16,500 orig miles for $10,500 OBO ( see sig pic) ( http://www.ayresweb.com/91gta/91gta.html ) ( http://www.ayresweb.com/gtapics/ ), so I would say if you ever get offered $15K for yours again, take it even if you have to take the bus or a cab for a month or two.

I would sell my Turbo TA ( http://www.ayresweb.com/interior_pic...rior_pics.html ) ( http://www.ayresweb.com/ttapics/ ) for $13,500 cash money, and it's only got 58,000 original miles, with well over $2000 worth of performance upgrades and a rebuilt engine 13,000 miles ago (It ran 12.332 in the 1/4 mile before some of the upgrades.) It's also 1 of 162 cloth / t-top cars made and was actually used at the INDY 500 in 89 as a press car.

I guess price is all in whatever someone is willing to sell or pay for a car, but I wouldn't buy one for $6000 without the engine.

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hey 86.....

good choice dude!!!! i know how ya feel!!!! iv'e been without my motor for 6 months now!!!

it kinda grows on ya..... i also thought about selling mine or just buying a stock long block and sticking it between the fenders...

but like evryone said, paint dosen't make a car, yes gunmetal is an awsome color on third gen's but, thats it... a color...

i wish ya the best on your new motor and hope to see maybe a video of it in the future!!!

later badgta
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if anyone is interested, the phone number is 215-256-9923, it is for sale in Allentown Rd. in Franconia, PA, pictures do it no justice, I havent taken the time to check authenticity since I descided not to buy it, but it is a beutifully, immaculate looking car. It really does look show room new, I hope an enthusiast ends up with it.

Thanx for the compliments

BadGTA: I'll have it out and making fun vids of it as soon as the engine is in and broken in.
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Plus what fun would it be to start driving a stock car again????
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Wait it out for an L98/T-Top car of any color..
Or..at least a 1LE bird..now that'd be worth selling the awesome custom car you have at the moment..
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I think part of my problem is I dont even remember what its like to have my car since its been w/ out a motor for 4 months, all summer, its
4 months... that's all ? I think my car is somewhere on year 3 of sitting in the garage....
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4 months... that's all ? I think my car is somewhere on year 3 of sitting in the garage....
Yeah, but was it your daily driver?
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Yea.. it was a daily driver... then things went downhill and so it sits...

If you need a car.. just buy a beater to get you where you need to go until your car is done.. I'm on my 3rd right now.
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If the GTA had a supercharger on it or some serious cylinder heads and cam, I would slap down 6k, but only if it ran without major problems.
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I know how you feel about now driving your car. Mines been sitting in garage for about 7 months now and its driving my crazy seeing it sit.
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