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Old 09-17-2002, 05:17 PM
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Poll: To black out or too not black out

Okay the car is in the paint shop. Right now they are preping the car for paint. Origionally the car had the blacked out headlight wells. I was thinking of having them not black them out and just painting in there body color. what do you guys think... I like the body color my dad likes them blacked out....
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I say black out. I think it does well with the grill being black.
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i think it depend on the colour of the car...

they should only be blacked out if you have a yellow/white/or red car..

imho they look the best

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I say go for the black paint in the headlight wells.
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I'll agree with the blackout...
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I vote for black also.
Mine were originally body color, but I blacked them out after the repaint. I think it looks so much better.
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The black outs add more detail to the front end. I have seen a couple of black outs on Firebird, but they are unusual looking without the fixed headlights.
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I would say unless your car is black, black out the headlight well. It looks so much better with them black then the body color.
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I vote for having them blacked-out.
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Black it out...
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what happens if ur car is black
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My vote is to black them out as well
that car looks mean, are you keeping it the same colour?
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Originally posted by jocww
what happens if ur car is black
then the wells are already painted black.
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Blackout...there isnt a single f-body ive seen where it isnt phat...

ive owned both, and now if i can, any future fbody i have will have it blacked out...
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Originally posted by devianb
The black outs add more detail to the front end. I have seen a couple of black outs on Firebird, but they are unusual looking without the fixed headlights.
..what?

How can you have black headlight wells on a Firebird with pop-up headlights?
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I think Camaros look best when the grill & headlight pockets match. Whatever color one is, the other should be the same. Just my opinion.
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I personally like the original color more than the blackout look. Do what YOU want though
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Thanks for your opinions guys... My car has the blackouts now and I like them. I just wanted to try something different. But this would be for life or well as long as the paint lasts for, and hopefully thats life. I think I am going to go with the blackouts. Ill post some pics in about 3 weeks when I get the car back...
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Originally posted by 83tranzam
I think Camaros look best when the grill & headlight pockets match. Whatever color one is, the other should be the same. Just my opinion.
Unfortunately your opinion is wrong.
:lala: Black them out! :lala:
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I would have to go with the majority here and say black them out.
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Damnit DO NOT go with the blackouts, i ahve the same exact car as you ... same exact color, my last car was a 91 z28 same color and everything too and i got it repainted in the front without the black headlight thing and it looked WAY better... if your keepign it that burgandy color PLEASE get rid of the blackout crap it looks 100 times better trust me, here is a picture of my old car without the blackout
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its a crappy picture, but beilive me up close in person, it looks so much better, i had so many compliments on it when i got rid of the black...
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Unless your painting the grill then black out the headlight pockets. Camaro's lose some some of the aggressive look when they arent.
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Originally posted by 1991 Z-28
its a crappy picture, but beilive me up close in person, it looks so much better, i had so many compliments on it when i got rid of the black...
I was gonna say blackouts, as well, but looking at that picture... the red looks awesome. My car's wells are painted, but the body is charcoal gray; not so much difference. Just to be devil's advocate here, I'd say blackouts make the whole headlight ordeal look too big, but very aggressive. Painted gives a sleek subtle look without that big scare. I'm starting to think painted... :lala:

[edit] oh, and as for the grill, go with chrome mesh! yeeeaaah...
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i vote for black out, but color looks good also..
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Heres another vote for paintin' them black.
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Chevrolet experts thought that black looked good......I'm with them,......keep em black
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BLACK THEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I like the black outs. Its your choice, do what you want to.
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How hard would it be to have them 1st shoot it with them body color. Since you have had them black. Then you could always have them painted black, after the fact, if you decided you liked the look better.
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Originally posted by 91dubZ28
I think I am going to go with the blackouts.


Dont think just know. Majority rules your getting the black outs if you like it or not. If you dont I'll sneak up to your car in the middle of the night and spray them black for you. LOL Just ing I'm not traveling across a few states to do that. A few weeks you say? Tell them to hurry up so we can see some pix.
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Okay they are def. gonna be black. I am dropping the car off saturday morning... They said give them 2-3 weeks so you are all going to have to wait =[ dahh the suspence is killing me...
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I just had a crazy idea. What about having the headlight pockets another color besides black, like silver something like that?
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I agree with 91-Z28. I also had the pockets blacked out originally(Red 87 IROC). I had it repainted without the black headlight pockets and indeed the car did look much better. I agree though that the car does look a little less aggressive. But instead, I had hood stripes put on. I do think now that blacked out headlight pockets seem a little dated ( like the Iroc striping around the car). If it wasn't, we would see more cars inspired stylistically by the idea. I guess I just like a more cleaner look.
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I just had a crazy idea. What about having the headlight pockets another color besides black, like silver something like that?
Eek... I'd be very careful of color choice if I did that. I can't think of much else that would look good besides body color or black...
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It was just an idea. I was thinking that if you had ground effects that were a different color than the body, then you could paint the headlight pockets the same color too. The color choice would be a huge factor in determining if it looks good or not.
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..what?

How can you have black headlight wells on a Firebird with pop-up headlights?
Easy if you have an 82-90 Firebird. That is what Zepher did to his.
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Originally posted by redraif
How hard would it be to have them 1st shoot it with them body color. Since you have had them black. Then you could always have them painted black, after the fact, if you decided you liked the look better.
Im with redraif.

Paint it body color and see if you like it. Its not hard to do yourself if you decide to black the pockets out.

here is mine. They are body color and my grill is not black either.
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Easy if you have an 82-90 Firebird. That is what Zepher did to his.

Ooooh, oh, oh oh. Duh. I feel stupid.

I'm sitting here thinking of MY 'bird, which is a 91. Wouldn't work too good on a 91-92, hehe
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Ooooh, oh, oh oh. Duh. I feel stupid.

I'm sitting here thinking of MY 'bird, which is a 91. Wouldn't work too good on a 91-92, hehe
I kind of figured you were thinking of the 91 nose and not the earlier noses.

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Heres mine without the blackout. I think it does have a more modern look. I also went with the stripe delete. I am putting silver IROC decals back on the doors though...

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Could someone please photoshop a couple of pics black and body color. i'd really like to see the difference with the same pic.
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I did not mean to make you feel stupid. I looked at your car and noticed it was a 91 when you made that first comment so I kind of figured you were thinking of the 91 nose and not the earlier noses.

Where do you get off making people feel stupid. Now I feel stupid cause I'm typing this reply. What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may *** have mercy on your soul.



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Where do you get off making people feel stupid. Now I feel stupid cause I'm typing this reply. What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may *** have mercy on your soul.



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I edited my post so now you can return back to genius status..


I did not think anyone would pay any attention to that.
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How hard would it be to have them 1st shoot it with them body color. Since you have had them black. Then you could always have them painted black, after the fact, if you decided you liked the look better.
i guess it takes the common sense of a woman for the right answer sometimes good call redraif all us pigheaded guys would be lost without ya!


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