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I am looking into gettinga notchback for my 84 T/A. I was woundering if someone could post what it would look like with a high rise spoiler and a base model bird pedistal spoiler.
Thanks
Matt
__________________ 1984 Trans Am-SOLD
89 GTA interior, 95 seats, Eibach springs, KYB shocks and struts, Hurst shifter, K&N filters, removed cat, Dynomax cat back, Edelbrock Carb
1993 Saturn SL2
Where can you get that wing. Im thinking about adding one to my notchback.
__________________ 1988 GTA Notchback (Original)
383 Stroker Engine
Eagle forged rotating assembly
JE Forged Pistons 11.5:1 Cr
Lunati Roller Cam .606/.585
Dur @ .050 248/252
Dart Pro 1 230cc Aluminum Heads
Ferrea Valves 2.08/1.60
Comp 1.5 pro magnum roller rockers
Victor Jr. Intake w/Holley 750 Double Pumper
Stewart Stage II water pump
March serpentine belt pulleys
Moser Ford 9" rear w/ 4:11s
Turbo 400 w/ ACT 5000 stall
B&M Supercooler
Hooker LTs w/ mufflex 4" exhaust
NX nitrous Gemini stage 6
Custom white and black leather int
Pearl red paint
16 Speaker system 3 AMPS
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Billet SB, Patriot Heads, VT turbo cams, Frank5L's turbo kit, 540RWHP at 8 psi, sucked in a bolt, repair in progress. Looking for 650+ at 14-16 psi once it's back together.
(Not my truck but I have a Sonic L now.)
I really like the looks of the notchback, with the larger rear deck it should create more down force without a wing. But man there is no room for speakers or anything. i do like the looks though.
looks like everyone and their brother is watching this thread. how much did you guys pays for your notchback if it did not come on the car. anyone buy one from GTautoacc what was the sticker on that puppy. or is it one of those thing, if you gotta ask its too much.
My notchback was original from the factory. It looks alot different from the aftermarket ones if you see it up close. People are convincing me not to get a different spoiler. Whats do you guys think?
__________________ 1988 GTA Notchback (Original)
383 Stroker Engine
Eagle forged rotating assembly
JE Forged Pistons 11.5:1 Cr
Lunati Roller Cam .606/.585
Dur @ .050 248/252
Dart Pro 1 230cc Aluminum Heads
Ferrea Valves 2.08/1.60
Comp 1.5 pro magnum roller rockers
Victor Jr. Intake w/Holley 750 Double Pumper
Stewart Stage II water pump
March serpentine belt pulleys
Moser Ford 9" rear w/ 4:11s
Turbo 400 w/ ACT 5000 stall
B&M Supercooler
Hooker LTs w/ mufflex 4" exhaust
NX nitrous Gemini stage 6
Custom white and black leather int
Pearl red paint
16 Speaker system 3 AMPS
Originally posted by Gumby I really like the looks of the notchback, with the larger rear deck it should create more down force without a wing. But man there is no room for speakers or anything. i do like the looks though.
I've never liked the notchback rear lids. But I guess it would lower the vehicles total weight as all that rear glass is pretty heavy.
Joe & I want to get a notchback for his 3rd gen when he gets one. Then we are going to add the mecham spoiler.
__________________ "I'm just a girl..." (No Doubt) "Love me or hate me, it's still an obsession. If you love me then Thank you, if you hate me then **** you!" (Lady Sovereign) 1987 Red & Black Firebird: "RAIF" WEBSITE: www.redraif.com (Yes... STILL in pieces from an engine bay paint makeover!) OTHER CARS’ WEBSITES:1982 Trans AM / 1990 Chevy Dually / 1976 Scout II / 1987 Nissan Pulsar / 1984 Indy Fiero Tact- n . Acute sensitivity to what is proper and appropriate in dealing with others, including the ability to speak or act without offending.
Might as weel use teh blank spot to give you some info. This wing was designed by mecham for the 3rd gen. Very few were made and Mecham no longer has the molds. They have asked that anyone who has one please contact them. They would like to use an original to make a new mold so they can produce them again. This was the spoiler that was used in the speed trails. This was the wing that was on the Firebird's best run ever, not teh aero wing as some have thought. This wing is the most functional wing ever developed for the 3rd gen. I will try to find teh post where Joe has their contact info! Joe and I are going to try to track down the guy who has this spoiler to see if he will let Mecham use it!
Originally posted by LT1guy I just got off the phone with Mecham...they don't have the wing anymore, or even the molds to make it, but would be interested in talking to anyone who has one to possibly make a new mold. He's been getting a few requests for it lately. He also said its a very effective wing...Mecham holds the only SCCA Trans Am win that the Trans Am ever won!
If the owner of this wing happens to see this post, or you have one, call Mecham at 623-486-3144.
If you have one you're interested in selling, email me!!!!
Most any F-body spoiler will fit an aftermarket notchback, but not a factory one....notice how GTABadboy's is flat, while the aftermarket ones in the pictures curve back. You could modify any wing to fit, but thats why the GTAs with this notchback didn't have the Aerowing to begin with...it wouldn't fit, and GM wasn't going to retool just for a limited run.
__________________ 1981 Corvette LSX/T56 Project
1987 Trans Am
1985 Trans Am
1997 Camaro SS #359 383 LT1 - Sold 8/12/09
Who made this notchback, Motion or GT Auto? Or someone else? I like this one better than any I have seen...thats the one I'll get for mine. The Mecham wing should fit it just fine.
BTW I'm going to attempt to make the rear window power...should be interesting, esp with a targa conversion. Not sure how its going to affect stereo performance though, since the whole rear area of the car is pretty much cut off.
__________________ 1981 Corvette LSX/T56 Project
1987 Trans Am
1985 Trans Am
1997 Camaro SS #359 383 LT1 - Sold 8/12/09
Originally posted by LT1guy Who made this notchback, Motion or GT Auto? Or someone else?
Well I can tell you that it wasnt GT Auto. Their hatch design is far from the stock look. I believe it could have been Motion, but I am not 100% sure since I bought it used.
I've seen that second kind of notchback on my friend's car (the one on the bird w/ the z28 wing. I like it because it continues the natural line of the hatch glass (if it was there) instead of suddenly dropping off before it gets to the rear end. He is also planning to put a Z28 spoiler on it when the rest of the car is completed (it has nothing on it right now and the car's in pieces) If anyone has a side shot of that same bird it'd be great to see one
The notchback looks great, but is it worth the $600+?? And how would you get the 91-92 Z28 spoiler to fit on a bird?
__________________ 1988 Firebird, 305, 5-speed, TBI, 16" Formula rims, Ravin Muffler, Hooker Super Comps and Y pipe, removed cat and A.I.R. pump, Did a slight mod to the air cleaner, I cut off about 4".
Have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?
If I do own the motion product (which i believe is true), then yes I would buy a new one for $600. The hatch is SOLID. Dont think you'll get any weight savings with this, because the notchback I have weighs more than my actual hatch did. It has a section of boxed tubing underneith the flat surface of the lid that is molded to the fiberglass to keep everything solid, and it does a great job. When I bought mine it was incomplete without hatch strut mounts and lock mechanism. I had to work with stock units to make something fit and im not really happy with the way I had it turn out. Ordering one new should be a different story.
As for the requested side pic, this is as close as I can get it without actually taking more pictures of the car:
I bought a Motion Glass notch yrs ago(back around 1988)and it was damn solid!! If I remember right the only thing it did have was the space(and I think the studs sticking out)for the locking bracket--nothing else-you had to fab everything else. I had it about a year before I sold it-never having been mounted! The kid I sold it to said the body shop had a really hard time lining it up because it was made so damn crooked!! He showed me all the fiberglass that had to be added just so it would look ok. hopefully they're made much better now. Back then I paid around $800 for it.
Tony and GMFB:
Your experiences w/ the motion glass one seem to indicate exactly what my friend has in store for him. It appears either they still aren't available with all the preparations, or he also has an early one. (I'm guessing the latter)
Thanks for the side shot GMFB, I like it a lot, hopefully this'll convince him to stick w/ the notch.
The Hawk's or factory notchback would look wicked with a stock high-rise Z28 spoiler on it. I think that's the way I'm gonna go with my '87 GTA project car. Too bad I can't find any pictures of such a thing.
Mods so far: MSD Cap and rotor, MSD ignition coil, Accel 8.8mm ignition wires, Hooker Super Comp Shortie Headers, Flowmaster 3in catback, underdrive crank pulley, custom cold air intake, NOS wet 125 shot, air foil and a lead foot! no E/T's yet. ...TURBO COMING SOON...Other mods include keyless entry and remote start, and Sequential Turn Signals.
The Hawk's or factory notchback would look wicked with a stock high-rise Z28 spoiler on it. I think that's the way I'm gonna go with my '87 GTA project car. Too bad I can't find any pictures of such a thing.
That's exactly what I was going to do with mine till I found a mecham wing.
But Hawks still has my notch and my high rise spoiler walked off. If the mecham had been reproduced I had also contemplated the 4th styled wing.
I was just unsure of how the sides would meet w the hatchback raised edges.
anyone ever thought of a 4th gen spoiler on the notchback?
Yes I have...and if someone would be kind enough to donate a notchback to my car I would definitely install it.
__________________ 1988 Drop Top RS... LT-1/700R4/3.23 1LE brakes all around behind polished Y2K's, 36/24mm sway bars, wonder bar, koni yellows, and a few other "goodies"
....still sporting trailer park 5 color paint for now. 88 RS vert build thread
I dont know how to put pics up on this, but. You can see my notch back to the left or go to my profile. The wing on my 87 iroc z28 is off a 92 rs. As far as I know this wing never came on a Z28. just the 90 91 and 92 RS. THIs winter I am takeing about 2in off of each side to line up better with the side of the notch back.
Pics of my old 82 camaro with notchback hatch and a fiero gt spoiler
that notch back is the only one I've seen that I actually like, the other ones that go on birds and some camaro's make it look like a huge fiero gt or something, talk about ugly