speedingpenguin

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I love the looks of the 93+ Supra dash boards...just like the whole way that theres that pannel tilted right at you and stuff...would it be possible to, with some custom work, put one in a third gen? Forget about the width of it and stuff, does it look like it would be possible to fit in? Thanks....

nolanr0413

anything is possible if you want it . but you would have to take measurements to see how close the surpa dash is to the 3rd gen dash , and then your still gonna have to cut and then add pieces to make it fit correctly.

pardonme2711

money is the limit pretty much and your skills. you can but it probably will be a little smaller width wise and none of the mounts will probably line up. but if you wanted to do it bad enough u could.

BirdsofPray

I've actually had the exact same thoughts, I suppose this is because I used to own a Supra. They have the most accessible and attractice dash design for a car, but I realized the trouble of installing one into a Camaro would be a nightmare. Good luck, if you choose to try it.

iansane

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Probably be just as easy to fabricate your own custom dash out of fiberglass and forms, plus you could add in anything specific you want. But that dash would be cool. How long are supra doors? Would their door panels be fitable to ours? to smoothly flow that dash to the rest of the car?

BadBowtie88

Now that's one hell of an idea right there. Well let's see, my bro does have his own body shop. And he knows fiberglass pretty well.....

GOFASTER

one word, UGLY!!! Not trying to flame anyone, but not my taste at all, I believe it would make any 3rd gen look just ugly and ***** as hell...

Now, on the other hand, good original as hell, if you do get it done please post pics, I would like to see it anyway.

Good Luck!!!

pasky

Im gonna have to agree, that thing is pretty ugly. Now a corvette dash I would love :rockon:

speedingpenguin

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Although I still think it would look awsome, I do understand what your saying....its so curvy and stuff that with the rather sharp looking third gen, it might look out of place....
What if I made a custom dash that was the basic design of that, but a little more boxy, would your opinion change? think it would look better or worse? Keep ideas coming!

pardonme2711

personally being a fairly tall bigger guy i would feel cramped like that.

omnipotentgoku

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That reminds me of the late model Stang dash.. sitting in that makes me feel claustrophobic... literally.

Not only that.. with the popularity these things (supras) have commanded in the past years, it would not be logical to try getting a dash as you would pay a ******** for it.

CaysE

I think the Supra dash looks good too, but only in black. I never liked the aluminum or wood trim all the kiddies added on; it just made it look too off-balance. It would be interesting if you did it.

BirdsofPray

If that were so then 4thgen dashboards would look out of place in a 3rdgen. Which they do, yet the boards here are filled with stories of installs and future installs to come. In my mind the only discernible attribute a 3rdgen and a 4thgen share is that they both carry the Camaro name.

The reason most don't like the dash has nothing to do with how it looks.

They don't like it because it came from a Toyota Supra.

speedingpenguin

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yeah thats true....
Some of the C4 Corvettes have a dash SIMILAR to the Supra dash, in that the center part is pulled out and facing the driver a little bit....but i sorta like the look of having the stuff all around you....space ship! haha
We'll see....

BirdsofPray

Yes, I can see that. The American/Japanese car debates will rage on 'till the end of time, I shouldn't have gotten into that.

The topic is centered around a possible 3rdgen install of the Supra dash....and I really like the fiberglass idea. That sounds like the best possible route to ensure a profesionally done job that imitates the look of a Supra dash while fitting with the size and space of a Camaro. Of course, I know nothing about fiberglass development so it might be an expensive deal.

The dash isn't, as someone suggested, anymore cramped than the Camaro is. It only looks more cramped because the dash is tightly woven around you - it's quite cozy. Believe me, I'm 6'3 and felt very comfortable in a Supra.

pardonme2711

it doesn't look bad at all and i dont care what car it comes from. but i just never liked a dash like that that kinda hugs you i like my space. i use to have a mustang and i never liked how i was cramped inside it. i think it would look sweet though just uncomfortable to me personally.

iansane

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If a mustang is anything, it's not tightly wrapped around you. Those dashes are so far away it's uncomfortable. (to me and I'm 6'4") They're just ugly to boot.

pardonme2711

i had a sn95 a 1994 mustang so it had the new dash and the old 5.0 that was the only thing i liked about it. it broke down all the time for no reason , it was slower than ****. the only hing it had going for it was it was in really great shape and looked amazing. but i always had to walk away with my tail between my legs when a 4th gen rolled up. that why i bought a 4thgen after that!

CrazyHawaiian

I think the 4th gen T/A dash's look better, but whatever floats yor boat. Interesting idea about the C5 dash. I was cruzing with my friend in his Z06 and we were talking about the 4th gen T/A dash swap I'm planning to do soon. He said maybe I should try a C5 dash/console setup ..... interesting idea .....

Zepher

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If I had the money for the C5/Z06 dash, I'd have tried that. Supra dash would need to have the door panels as well to make it match.
I can measure my friends 95 Supra and let you all know the dimensions.

ksrammstein

Why they stop making those things anyway...they seem like the only stock japanese car with *****....well if they are as fast as people make them out to be.

Zepher

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Sales totalled a little over 12,000 for the entire 93.5 to 98 production years, this included the TT and non TT models.
High price was main thing, $53K for the 95 and down to about $40K in 98.

speedingpenguin

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Hmm....
Well I sorta like the whole idea of being snug in the drivers seat, and I look forward to putting alot of work into customizing my car, but from looking at pics and stuff, I might just be better off doing ot from scratch instead of trying to find a supra dash for sale.....Thanks for the offer, but dont go through the hassal of measuring....realisticly i'll probably end up doing it from scratch anyway...Thanks though....

Yeah, They should have kept the Supra in production, even if it was just very limited production....Not to get off topic, but the Supra is one of many japanese cars i'd love to have....
(300ZX, MR2 (not the spyder), 3000GT, etc.)
Thanks for the comments/suggestions/ideas, any more are welcome :-)

Dante93GTZ

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Most people have an idea of what a 3rdgen Camaro interior looks like - ie. FLAT... I want to get a 4thgen 97+ Camaro dash and have people get in and think its a brand new car inside

ZZ42Fast

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I admit there are one or 2 things that could do with modernising in our cars. But the dash is all part of the package, it was clean and functional if a little boring. It's the way it was done back then.

Why spend days and shed loads of cash on something that will ruin the originality? Face it our cars are old now, it's nothing to hide, we should be proud I found the later dashes plasticy and Japanese. When you look in a 4th gen you may as well be looking inside a Honda. When you look in a third it's all muscle baby.

The dashes in the classic Mopars are awful but owners don't strip them out and replace them with the inside of a Chrysler Neon...

And the whole cup holder whine that I hear from people is amazing... The World didn't need them back then and it doesn't need them now!

There, I'll get off my soap box now. Just thought I'd defend our corner for once... I guess opinions are like butts... everyone has one

FBodesigner

I do agree with ZZ42Fast on one issue...the dash in our cars was well designed from an aesthetic point of view, the lines flow and the dash "fits" the car; from an ergonimic stand point there are some improvements to be made. This is why most people switch to the 4th gen dashes, which are just as well designed (for the forth gens); and change the seats, which are terrible for the type of driving these cars where made for.

Also, seeing as how I have a butt, this post would be incomplete if I didn't state my opinion. The 3rd gen dashes are part of the mistique and heritage of our cars; while I am a modification junky, I can look past all that and see the beauty in the simplicity of the original thirdgen dash...If you have to change it, only change subtle parts of it to enhance the original design; granted, that is hard to do without making it look "riceish", but that is how beautiful automobiles are made...if Chip Foose had a third gen, I'm pretty sure he would keep the original dash...just my opinion...

speedingpenguin

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I do see what you are saying, and agree with it in a way. If I was just gonna have a thirdgen, or a FAST thirdgen, I'd leave the dash alone and just pop some Autometer gagues in if i was gonna upgrade anything. But I want something that I can not only say is fairly quick (nothing crazy, just fast enough to hang out with the LS1's maybe...), but is MINE. Not someone elses idea, but MINE....Most third gens out there have either the stock dash or the fourth gen dash, I doubt that any have a Supra dash.....I want my car to be very custom, but not *****-ish....so painting the front of the dash a bright color wouldnt cut it for me.....I dunno....We'll just have to see what happens when the time comes that i'm gonna be doing the interior work...I hopefully will be doing something custom, and the supra (or just the basic supra design) dash is a possibility.....

Aviator857

what about the night rider dash it kinda wraps the driver like that.

http://www.knighton-line.com/kadash.htm

or

http://www.knighton-line.com/ka_4dash.htm

but like all fiberglass parts its $$$$$

speedingpenguin

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nah...dont really like it that much....plus, it'd be in a camaro, not a firebird....

Aviator857

it will fit in a maro, but yea im not a fan but you could use it as a starting point where you don't have to mold the whole thing, just cut off what you don't like and make it more supra. Since it is fiberglass cutting and adding isn't that hard.

omnipotentgoku

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I'd have to disagree... as I stated If it didn't leave me in a ball squash state, then I might like it. Oddly enough, since my previous post, I have since had an opprotunity to drive a Supra TT. Quick as hell, but very cramped interior. To each his own either way.

Zepher

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There is plenty of leg room if you don't try and put anyone in the back seats.
We had to pick up two people one night and man, I was kissing the dash and my friend was almost lying on the steering wheel.

BirdsofPray

No problem, I can understand how one might feel a little uneasy in a Supra, or a car with a similar dash design. I prefer a cozy, small interior. I don't like a lot of open space in a sports car personally, hence my strong appreciation for the Supra. No wasted airspace....which is one of my only complaints about my Camaro.

305TA85

Has anyone tried to fit one up yet? That was the post not what you thought about the look only the fit. Curious how to find a dash out of one of these cars, and how much would one cost? They are fast too my friends 97' Hits 185 with little problems(not quite stock but not heavily modified).

Jim85IROC

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90-96 Corvette dashes aren't really a hell of a lot different, and the swap would probably be a lot easier because most of the wiring would be the same... plus you'd still have all GM stuff.

Mathius

Wonder what this board would be like if people actually took measurements and tried things instead of talking about it all the time.

And people bash imports and minitruckers *eyes* At least they try something new.

Mathius

omnipotentgoku

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Alright, I get tired of those comments about our community. Lets look at this logistically.
- Seriously, who amongst us has the fundage to actually acquire such a dash assembly just on the possibility that it could work. I can imagine that a dash assembly could go for atleast a few grand. I doubt anyone of us could be so frivolous. Granted, not all of us are broke, but even still, where to get it ?

I believe Zephyr said
I'll take him for his word on that, and with that said its safe to say that coming across parts for this wouldn't be easy. Looking on ebay, it would seem that Supras are still commanding upwards of $40K. (I found NO dashes)

Shiyet

Call this a spot of luck, but I just found a donor car in my home town. (supra's are pretty rare here, junk yard car's just don't exist)

Salvageable Supra

I am positive that he will sell this to someone. But.. that dash is moot, so no dash donor afterall + I am doubting that he would part this car out. If he puts it on ebay in that condition, he knows its worth.

All I am saying is that its unfair for you to point fingers at the community claiming that we are closeminded neanderthals.

How do you think the 4th gen dash Idea came about? Someone had to think outside the box and give it a try. Its obvious that the aftermarket doesn't give a damn about 3rd gens, so the community accomodated for itself.

Lastly, with all due respect, are you making the measurements, searching for a donor car, and pricing out the dash... or are you just talking louder than hell without saying a damn thing?
I commend you if I am wrong. I'll even revoke the statement with full apologies if im wrong as I am not one to spark controversy here, but if im not, then leave it be. As thirdgen owners we all do the best we can with what materials are available to us.





Here's a gallery of people who thought outside the box.
http://www.omnipotent-goku.com/iroc/gallery/parts

Let he with a supra dash in his Third gen cast the first stone.

{silence}...................

Karps TA

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Personally I find the qoute
hilarious.

Forget about it possibly have the right dimensions to fit, would it fit.

I don't think Mathius said anything wrong. He basically said instead of people daydreaming about things, why not actually take a tape measure and go figure it out yourself. Those who have thought outside the box, didn't sit hear monkey spanking themselves asking if things will fit, they went and actually got their hands dirty. That's what gets things done. Not just staring at pics and wondering.

Thinking outside the box is great. But do something, don't make everyone else do the dirty work for you.

Jim85IROC

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Part of thinking "outside the box" still has to involve a realistic solution in order for it to have any merit.

I could think "outside the box" and daydream about installing a mack truck dashboard into a thirdgen, but no matter how far outside the box that might be, it's just not a realistic solution.

If nothing else does, just trying to make that Supra tach work with your car should keep you busy for months.

I go back to my previously ignored suggestion: Look at a late C4 dashboard. The overall design is remarkably similar to that of the Supra, but your installation would be greatly simplified by the GM commonality.

slammed_z

i like the 98 camaro dash in 3rds gens...the 4thgen dash kinda looks odd to me..i would love to do it

305TA85

All this post is for and can accomplish like omnipotentgoku said is the idea, but now the idea is here maybe the money is still not feasible. The point is for some measurements to be taken to figure out if the swap is even possible. If any parts of these dashes do exist I bet a few people on this board would pick he money from somewhere to do a dash like no other third gen. Mathius did not try to start a fight but curious if anyone from this old post was ever going to measure and see if its possible. Because the wrap around to the door it maeks it very difficult to say it will fit in. If I see my friend with his supra I'll try to take measurements, but I hardly see the guy. Peace have some take some you all need some.

305TA85

What about taking the carbon fiber or brushed aluminum dash kit and retrofitting that into the interior. This would include lots of fiberglass and vynil work. You would have the wrapping dash of a Supra and the rest is GM, Aftermarket, or fabricated parts. The trim kits are $275 off of ebay and, believe me if I weren't repainting, and rebuilding the engine, trany, and suspension I would buy it. I still may and just get it over with if i can ever find anything out about the dimensions.

Camaroguy18

I'd love to do the 4th gen swap....but it looks pretty tricky

astoria18

It's definitely not as hard as everyone makes it seem. Wiring is a breeze, the hardest part is getting the AC/Vent/Defrost ducts to go to the right place. Took me two days with the help of the information that's already on these boards. Anyone with an ounce of innovation, creativity, and patience can easily do it.



As for the Supra dash... I agree with omnipotentgoku and Jim85IROC. It's gonna be nearly impossible to find a dash to begin with, so if you're going for "nearly impossible to find" as your goal, shoot for a C4 dash. Wiring all that stuff up for the Supra dash will be difficult, assuming you can even afford/find the dash to begin with. The wire colors for the 3rdgen-4thgen swap were nearly all the same, and I bet it would be pretty darn similar for the C4 as well.

xlwhellraiser

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Well, ya know that supra dash reminds me of...