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Old 09-10-2007, 03:56 PM
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C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Well, I'm sure you've all seen a Corvette brake system installed before, but I just wanted to throw up a few pics of my new system and give a great big thank you to Ed Miller! He got my kit together and shipped to me in perfect time for me to make it down to NY and paint my car. The kit is great quality and worth every penny, this car stops so much better than my '84 did with iron calipers up front and PBRs out back!!

I got the 13.5" C6 Z-51 rotors zinc washed with C5 ZO6 calipers.




(side by side with the old 10.5" rotor)


(through the 18" ROH RT wheel)



And sure, why not, one of the whole car finished too!


If you're on the fence at all about upgrading your brakes, don't wait, do it ASAP!

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P.S. Ed - I'll get my old spindles and rotors sent back to you soon, thanks again!!
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Thanks for the kind words, that's a really nice setup and your car came out great...Enjoy!

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oh man, i want some.
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The before and after shots really show it off don't they?
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Yep, they sure do! 3" is a HUGE difference in terms of brakes...now I just need to save up some money and get 13" units for the back...although the 11.75" PBR's are working fine for now

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

So do you need a different bracket to run those bigger rotors? I have the C5 Z06 calipers on my car now. And they are snug with the abutment right up against the rotors. So it would need to be moved up and out to make way right? Or am I being retarted? This is true right?thx
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

I actually kind of wondered that myself before I bought my kit from Ed. I would assume you're correct, the bigger rotor will need the caliper moved outboard farther, but Ed will know for sure. I know the only way these Z51 rotors come is cross-drilled from GM, for whatever that's worth LOL...

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Originally Posted by dennisbernal91z
So do you need a different bracket to run those bigger rotors? I have the C5 Z06 calipers on my car now. And they are snug with the abutment right up against the rotors. So it would need to be moved up and out to make way right? Or am I being retarted? This is true right?thx
You can make this swap with Z51 abutment brackets and rotors, you won't even need to unbolt the caliper from the brake line.

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

My C5 Z06s are cross drilled, zinc washed and vented. So I am not looking onto replacement yet, I was just wondering if when mine finally do wear out, would I be able to use those Z51 rotors or not.
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

If you do decide to swap, I don't think you'll see much of a difference. You're only adding .75" overall and keeping the same caliper and pad area but they sure do fill up a wheel and look nice. I have a set of these in the shop as well with some Wilwoods I'm toying with, and I'm debating what to install on my '70 when I get around to it. Decisions, decisions.

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Ed you didn't answer the question!!!!!

What has to be changed to use those rotors? doesn't the bracket have to be different? Please fill us in!!!!!!
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

He said, and I quote:

Originally Posted by ebmiller88
You can make this swap with Z51 abutment brackets and rotors, you won't even need to unbolt the caliper from the brake line.

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Brackets and rotors are all you need, caliper and carrier remain the same!

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Let me clear this up.. the C5 spindle adapter bracket is the same, all you need is Z51 rotors and Z51 abutment brackets (IE different carrier), no other changes needed. Clear now?

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Very.
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

This is for ED///
I am looking to swap stock iroc front brake set up with the LS1 conversion.
What do I all need besides the calipers and rotors?
I have 17"x8 torque thrust 2's
I'm confuse about the caliper adapter brackets and spindels?how much is the full conversion kit?
I noticed you sent the c-5 kit to a guy
I hope you can get back to me
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

looks good! I did the ls1 upgrade, and wow, its amazing the difference.
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

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This is for ED///
I am looking to swap stock iroc front brake set up with the LS1 conversion.
What do I all need besides the calipers and rotors?
I have 17"x8 torque thrust 2's
I'm confuse about the caliper adapter brackets and spindels?how much is the full conversion kit?
I noticed you sent the c-5 kit to a guy
I hope you can get back to me
I'll send you a PM with more info but I'll answer a few questions here:

You need modified spindles, hubs, adapter brackets, pads, and I recommend braided brake lines to complete your swap. You can't fit C5s due to your TT2s so LS1s will probably be the best option for you but we can always move to a Wilwood setup for more brake. LMK if you have any questions after you get my PM.

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

WOW!!! They look awesome. I have been looking into a brake upgrade, but I am doing wheels first (when I work out what I want), am I right in saying that TT IIs don't have as much brake clearance as most other wheels of the same size? How much did it cost for the full Z51 setup? Are the hubs machined down stock rotors? What's the availability of pads like for these calipers?
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

These will not fit TT2s, the caliper will hit the spokes. I have fit up a LS1 rotor and C5 caliper and it just barely fits the TT2s, pics here:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...on-c5-tt2.html

Honestly, without moving the caliper inwards by using another rotor this is about as big as you can go without further mods to the caliper and such. Maybe another wheel of another maker will have the clearance. You can PM me for details on the kit, Paul opted for a few options so your cost may be different. Those hubs are machined rotors but I am working on a design for steel hubs, we'll see how long that takes to get done as well as cost incurred.

Almost any supplier will offer pads for this setup, they are stock C5 pads so you have a wealth of options on pad types: stock, ceramic, HPS, and others.

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Hi Ed thanks for the info, still waiting on your PM..
Looking to do my brakes asap
Can you get me the kit I'm looking for and for what price.
I am interest in LS1 front and back, but will settle for front right now
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Taking care of PMs.

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

I sent a pm for you too Ed.
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Originally Posted by quadgoat
Yep, they sure do! 3" is a HUGE difference in terms of brakes...now I just need to save up some money and get 13" units for the back...although the 11.75" PBR's are working fine for now

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Paul, all we'd have to do is change out your rotors for 13" units and install my backing plates for the 13" rotors and you'll be set. No need to unbolt the caliper from the line...very easy.

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Oh, cool, thanks Ed! You have backing plates for 13" rotors that will work with my 9 bolt rear end? Once I get some money in the bank again I may go for that upgrade!
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Will the C-5 set up clear the Roh-Snypers ?

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

ed is the expert but i have the snypers with the c5 z06 brakes up front and say there should be enough room. but dont take my word for it. here is a pic...http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x...aropics204.jpg
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Looks like it fits and looks great.
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

hey i just gotta say ur car is so sweet... i tried to get the same rims for mine but they were no longer available. i also wat those brakes where did u get them and how was the install? one last thing the spindle they come on r ther bigger than stock ones for more clearance??
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Thanks very much!!!

Sorry to hear the wheels are not available anymore, I had heard they were re-vamping the American imported stuff style/color-wise. I was in contact (by email) with the American distributor for ROH wheels within the last month or so and he said that they still had some of the wheels like mine in stock. I was inquiring because I rubbed a curb with one of mine and was thinking about purchasing a replacement/spare.

Check with the folks at www.groupawheels.com They are the major importers of ROH wheels in America.

I got the brake kit from Ed Miller (ebmiller88 here on the boards). The install was easy as pie, just remove your old brakes/spindles, then set the new spindle on the ball joint, and fasten it, bolt the strut onto the spindle, and re-attach the tie rod end. Easy and straightforward. The spindles are stock thirdgen units modified to allow for mounting the caliper brakets for the Corvette brakes.

Hope I helped some, and thanks again!!

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Originally Posted by quadgoat
The spindles are stock thirdgen units modified to allow for mounting the caliper brakets for the Corvette brakes.
Ok, I'm getting brake envy. So....if I'm already running running 1LE fronts and PBR rears, what would I need? Will these brakes fit under a stock IROC 16"?

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

to use the stock iroc rims you will not be able to use this setup. You could run the ls1 setup or if you grind the fins on top of the c5 calipers you could use those but his rotors are the bigger 13.5" ones
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Yeah with the 13.5" setup you need a minimum of a 17" wheel, and they won't fit in some 17's, such as Torque Thrust II's.

I'm not the brake expert that Ed is, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think to go from the 1LE setup to a 'Vette setup would only require new caliper brackets to bolt them up to your spindles, and of course you'd have to get hubs for the Corvette rotors to ride on.

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Originally Posted by quadgoat
Thanks very much!!!

Sorry to hear the wheels are not available anymore, I had heard they were re-vamping the American imported stuff style/color-wise. I was in contact (by email) with the American distributor for ROH wheels within the last month or so and he said that they still had some of the wheels like mine in stock. I was inquiring because I rubbed a curb with one of mine and was thinking about purchasing a replacement/spare.

Check with the folks at www.groupawheels.com They are the major importers of ROH wheels in America.

I got the brake kit from Ed Miller (ebmiller88 here on the boards). The install was easy as pie, just remove your old brakes/spindles, then set the new spindle on the ball joint, and fasten it, bolt the strut onto the spindle, and re-attach the tie rod end. Easy and straightforward. The spindles are stock thirdgen units modified to allow for mounting the caliper brakets for the Corvette brakes.

Hope I helped some, and thanks again!!

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hey thanks for the info ill definitely check out geting a set of the rims and i hope to be geting the brakes soon..
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Yeah with the 13.5" setup you need a minimum of a 17" wheel, and they won't fit in some 17's, such as Torque Thrust II's.

I'm not the brake expert that Ed is, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think to go from the 1LE setup to a 'Vette setup would only require new caliper brackets to bolt them up to your spindles, and of course you'd have to get hubs for the Corvette rotors to ride on.

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yea i found a set of the corvette brakes on hawks for 1600 i had to get a set of the 99 corvette rims there 17x9.5 ca my stockers were warped..

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Not too much work to go from one to the other and I have all the parts to make the swap. PM or e-mail me for info..thanks!

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hey mans send me ur e-mail and we will talk cause id like to have that brake system.. thanks
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Originally Posted by joey 350 LT4
hey mans send me ur e-mail and we will talk cause id like to have that brake system.. thanks
Sent.

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

nice setup
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

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nice setup
Thanks very much!

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

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Thanks very much!

BTW, Ed, I got my core refund today, thanks, it certainly has been a pleasure doing business with you!!
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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

hey ed, when is your website going to be up and running?? i've saved it in my favorites for quite some time now and check everymonth. you're doing awesome work by the way.
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one more thing, what are you charging for a complete kit like this one?

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Re: C5/C6 Z51 Brakes Installed: Thanks Ed!!

Thank you for the kind words.

I'm trying to work out the details on the website but alas, I'm a bit busy this time of year. I hope to get it online soon, I think it will be a welcome option for brake kits as I have a LOT of new stuff coming down the line.

PM sent..thanks!

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