6x9 vs. component - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

bd_slim · 06-03-2009, 08:05 PM

i'm looking to upgrade my speakers in my 91z. wondering if i'm better off getting a good set of 6x9s or going with a 6.5 or 6.75 component set. i have already upgraded the dash speakers and i'll be running an amp with which ever setup i go with. i would like to keep the price of the speakers under $200.
thanks

This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on ThirdGen!

Civerus · 06-03-2009, 10:11 PM

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1366W3V...ures_and_specs

6x9's were designed to get the most volume out of the size, they distort at higher volumes due to a irregular shaped cone.

Round speakers will always get better quality, but may not be as loud, but I run a pair of these in my RX-7 and have nothing but good to say about them, especially amplified, these rattle the windows, shake the seats, and make people say WTF.

bd_slim · 06-03-2009, 10:27 PM

thanks for the input, but i'd like to stay away from subs. i'd like to keep the cargo room. i'm looking at either a good set of 6x9s or something like this

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB65...ures_and_specs

ThePain · 06-04-2009, 07:44 AM

I'd love to do component in my car.... but I really really really really don't want to hack the tweeters to fit in there. The idea of cutting up my baby makes me cringe.

theimpaler68 · 06-04-2009, 08:18 AM

i currently have a component type setup and i didnt have to hack or cut anything. i have a factory option performance sound package.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/at...s-dscf1402.jpg

this is in the '88, i am going to be putting all that in the '86 and trying to custom fit something bigger in all the stock locations. all you would have to do is build a plate that fits where the 6*9 plate is and cut out holes for a speaker of choice size and the tweeter. believe me when i say you dont want a tweeter next to your ear unprotected running oon an amp. but yes components are something i will never give up. i like quality and sound.

bd_slim · 06-04-2009, 09:49 AM

if i go the component route i will also have an adapter plate to mount the speaker and tweeter in the stock 6x9 location. my dad is a tool & die maker so that won't be a problem, and i think if you buy the speakers from crutchfield they give you an adapter plate for free.
and i am the same way when it comes to my music...i like it clean and crisp, and when i want to crank it i still want it to be clear and sound good.
how would the components be with bass? i'm not looking to have everything rattle and shake, but i would like some, and like i said earlier, i really don't want to go the sub route.

theimpaler68 · 06-04-2009, 10:18 AM

find 4ohm mid bass speakers 100hz- 250hz frequency i believe. and then just make sure the rms from your amp will power the rms wattage on the speaker and they should perform great. i think i am going to go with 6.5 in the sail panels for my '88 and i haven't decided on 1in or 2in tweeter. clean and crisp. but still have to hear the bass. i listen to a variety of music.

paul_huryk · 06-04-2009, 10:57 AM

Personally I wouldn't waste an ounce of time or $ to change the rear speakers. You should either get kick panels or install components into the front doors and spend your money there.

bd_slim · 06-04-2009, 12:01 PM

i thought about that, but i don't really want to cut up my door, and i put 5.5s in the kick panels of my truck, and i don't hear much difference between them and the 2.5s in the dash. i thought that was kind of a waste of time and money. but maybe it would be different in the camaro.

i don't currently have any rear speakers in my camaro, so i'm going to have to get something. and the price for either option is basically the same. i'm just looking for what would give me better bang for my buck. as stated earlier, i want something clean and crisp that still has some bass (i don't listen to rap/hip-hop, but still want some bass) and sounds good when cranked.

theimpaler68 · 06-04-2009, 12:43 PM

i am 6'2" my seat is all the way back and tilted a alittle to make myself comfortable. the rear speakers are about all i hear. the front speaker give a little depth. not having rear speaker takes away the surround feeling. i would go with clean install personally. dont need leg room wasted on anything but legs. my opinion though.

Civerus · 06-04-2009, 01:43 PM

The speakers I linked earlier are mid-bass speakers, 6 1/2", not subs, just get foam backing, and make sure you can fit them where they go, being 4 1/16" deep, they wont fit in alot of places. measure twice buy once?...

bd_slim · 06-04-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

JL Audio 6W3v3-4
W3v3 Series 6.5" 4-ohm subwoofer

that was taken from the link you posted. maybe the wrong link?

i think at this point i'm leaning twards the component setup. has anyone had both setups in their car (not at the same time of course) and preferred one or the other for whatever reason?

BANDITSBC · 06-05-2009, 12:07 AM

go components! i have comp. kick panels and they are great! i have 6/9's in my sail panels and they are great for volumn but i use them as a filler between the comp. and the 12s in the back

red83TA · 06-05-2009, 11:14 PM

If budget allows, I strongly recommend components. Another set up I have seen that works well in F-bodies - if your front speakers do a nice job of setting soundstage and imaging, pop some 6x9s in back just for bass. Either cut the tweeter wire (hack) or get dedicated woofer 6x9s. That way your sound won't get pulled into the backseat. That'd be like going to a concert then sit facing away from the stage. It's harder to detect the source of lower frequencies so, given the quality of your fronts, this might improve overall sound quality.

bd_slim · 06-05-2009, 11:52 PM

again, thanks for the input guys.
ya, i think i'm going with components. i'll probably look around for a decent set of cheap used for now, as there are other parts for the car i'd like to wrap up first before i buy a new set. but if nothing comes up here quick i'll just spring for a new set. i've only just been able to drive the car for the last few days after owning it for 3 months due to problems it had when i bought it, and driving with no rear speakers at all are drag!

abray1 · 06-06-2009, 11:21 AM

I have infinity kappa 6x9s in the sail panel and kappa plates in the dash. I also got a set of bose kick panels and put some kappas in them and I could not be happier with my system and it did not cost a fortune either. I also added the 91-92 bose rear storage deck and put infinity kappa 6.5s in them and that was the iceing on the cake. I use two kenwood excelon 4 channel amps and a kenwood x990 deck and it is awesome. I like clear not loud and you can hear people taking in a breath of air just before they sing on CDs.

theimpaler68 · 06-08-2009, 07:56 AM

i am going to convert to all kappa components too. as money allows with others mods going on too. i love infinity speakers

ThePain · 06-08-2009, 07:15 PM

So... 6x9 is the big long ones? And you can get components with adapter plates that fit the 6x9 spot?

bd_slim · 06-08-2009, 07:59 PM

yes, you can bolt your mid and tweeter to the adapter plate and then bolt that to your 6x9 stock plate.

Vice04 · 06-09-2009, 12:28 AM

I'm the opposite, I like 6x9s I have a pair of 4 way cheapie Pioneers that have seen 4 different vehicles, been amped for 60% of their life (had them for about 7 or 8 years) and they just refuse to blow. They're also really clear sounding, but I never turn the volume much past halfway

red83TA · 06-09-2009, 04:31 AM

Big fan of Infinity. Have spent $waytoomuch on "better" brands (like MBQuart) but love the detail of Infinities. Rock on, Vice04! I have friends with Radio Shack and Walmart systems that sound very good - it's not what you have, it's what you do with it!! It's hard to go wrong in an Fbody, the acoustics of that rear hatch just make everything work as long as you can anchor your front soundstage.

MorenoRS · 06-09-2009, 08:37 AM

YoU WanT SounD? Go on EbaY and Look uP the 6x9 Speakers theY HavE. TheN in Stall theM where the Stock Speakers are at. (Brand you shuold get is MTX, ROcksford, Alpine,) get about 250-350 watt for for the stock location. TheN, INstal Speakers where the front doors are. 150-200 watt for the front because the front is used for voice. THEN, 2 10' INcH in he bacK. systeM will be SicK.

bd_slim · 06-09-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Big fan of Infinity. Have spent $waytoomuch on "better" brands (like MBQuart) but love the detail of Infinities. Rock on, Vice04! I have friends with Radio Shack and Walmart systems that sound very good - it's not what you have, it's what you do with it!! It's hard to go wrong in an Fbody, the acoustics of that rear hatch just make everything work as long as you can anchor your front soundstage.

i haven't heard a lot of good things about infinity. mostly that they take a crap fairly quickly. but you know how that goes, people probably had them amped up too much. i've been looking at the polks myself.

Quote:

YoU WanT SounD? Go on EbaY and Look uP the 6x9 Speakers theY HavE. TheN in Stall theM where the Stock Speakers are at. (Brand you shuold get is MTX, ROcksford, Alpine,) get about 250-350 watt for for the stock location. TheN, INstal Speakers where the front doors are. 150-200 watt for the front because the front is used for voice. THEN, 2 10' INcH in he bacK. systeM will be SicK.

for now i'd like to stay away from putting speakers in the kick panels or doors. and i don't want to run subs. i might end up putting some in the doors down the road, but who knows. i'll wait and see how it sounds with just the stock front locations.

The Project · 06-14-2009, 12:05 AM

I run 6.5" comps in custom kick panels (bought a spare kick panel set on ebay). I agree that you should spend the $$ on the front end and not worry about rear speakers (except for the sub). If you look at most car audio competition cars...that's what they do (run no rear speakers).

If you just want to replace the stock speakers, then run comps in the rear on a plate.

hickman · 06-19-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abray1

I have infinity kappa 6x9s in the sail panel and kappa plates in the dash. I also got a set of bose kick panels and put some kappas in them and I could not be happier with my system and it did not cost a fortune either. I also added the 91-92 bose rear storage deck and put infinity kappa 6.5s in them and that was the iceing on the cake. I use two kenwood excelon 4 channel amps and a kenwood x990 deck and it is awesome. I like clear not loud and you can hear people taking in a breath of air just before they sing on CDs.

I'd like pics of the Bose rear storage deck, is it like the cargo door, but with speakers? or something else? Also, where are Bose kick panels available from?

MikeSmith0890 · 07-07-2009, 03:53 PM

If you have decided on going component and want a decent quality set, check out the Phoneix Gold RSD 6.5" comps. You can get the whole set on ebay for about $70. Thats a fairly cheap price for components, but for anything in that price range they will out perform them everytime.