Car Audio Car audio related questions and helpful hints for building the best sound system for your car or getting the most out of what you have.

Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-04-2012, 12:44 AM
  #1  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
86WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Great Smoky Mountains, Bryson City North Carolina
Posts: 1,258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86WS6 30K and 82WS7 24K
Engine: 86:305 TPI, 82: 305 LG4
Transmission: 86:700R4, 82: T200C
Axle/Gears: 86:3:27 9 bolt, 82: 3:23 10 bolt
Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

1986 TA with Performance Sound. If I purchase a wiring adaptor to plug a Monsoon HU to the 1986 wiring, will the Performance Sound amplifier with factory subwoofers work with the Monsoon HU? Thanks in advance, Charles
Old 06-06-2012, 11:18 AM
  #2  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
 
1ADan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pepperell, MA
Posts: 3,079
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 1987 Trans Am
Engine: LQ9/L92
Transmission: 4L60E
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

from the info I found over at LS1Tech, it just uses the standard 89+ radio wiring connector and should function like any newer model gm radio; most of the "monsoon" system is about the amp and speakers
Old 06-06-2012, 02:49 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Ruckusz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Downriver, MI
Posts: 790
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1986 IROC-Z
Engine: 350
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 4:10
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

Doubtful. The later model monsoon head units did not have any internal amplifier. The HU sent signal to an amp(s) in the vehicle. In late model 4th gens the amp was in the rear tire well and was voltage sensing. Meaning that you can't simply run a 12v turn on wire to the amp.

Long story short, its not worth your time. Look into picking up an Alpine KTP-445 compact 4 channel amp and a new deck. It'll perform better, have more features, and sound better.
Old 06-06-2012, 11:53 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
86WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Great Smoky Mountains, Bryson City North Carolina
Posts: 1,258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86WS6 30K and 82WS7 24K
Engine: 86:305 TPI, 82: 305 LG4
Transmission: 86:700R4, 82: T200C
Axle/Gears: 86:3:27 9 bolt, 82: 3:23 10 bolt
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

No arguement from me about the quality of aftermarket being much better than OEM. Even though a Monsoon is not OE to an 86, it does look like a Pontiac radio. It has the correct (red) color readouts. I am trying to keep the car as stock as possible, because it shows in the 82-92 stock Firebird class. There are not many 1.5 din aftermarket systems, and I don't care for the look of a single din unit with a mounting kit. No way am I going to modify the car to fit a double din. I got a reply from Kevin at Replacement Radios, and he thinks that the non-Monsoon Delco will work with my OE system and the OE remote amplifier/subwoofers. After considering options, it looks like I will be having the OEM HU and amplifier refurbished. The OE speakers and subwoofers are still in great condition. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that the car is stored in a humidity and temp controled environment. The car does not see much time outdoors.
Old 06-07-2012, 06:58 AM
  #5  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
 
1ADan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Pepperell, MA
Posts: 3,079
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 1987 Trans Am
Engine: LQ9/L92
Transmission: 4L60E
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

oops, must have overlooked the non-amplified part.
but if you're looking for an OE deck, grab anything pontiac from the late 90s; my 97 GTP deck was a perfect fit for my TA, just had to make very slight modification to the mounting tabs. CD player and in some cases, auxiliary input add-ons are available so you can use an mp3 player too
Old 06-07-2012, 07:05 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Ruckusz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Downriver, MI
Posts: 790
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1986 IROC-Z
Engine: 350
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 4:10
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

The non monsoon HU would be a better bet and should interface directly IIRC. About 10 years ago I had a GTA with the "performance sound." Pretty sure it uses high level inputs.

If you hook it up and the plugs mate listen for distortion. If there is alot of distortion at low volumes that means you need a low level input to the factory amp. Peripheral makes a part called the ISVE-61 that allows for easy integration into factory amps. I used to sell a ton of those to mustang guys looking to retain their old mach 460 setup.
Old 06-07-2012, 04:27 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
86WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Great Smoky Mountains, Bryson City North Carolina
Posts: 1,258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86WS6 30K and 82WS7 24K
Engine: 86:305 TPI, 82: 305 LG4
Transmission: 86:700R4, 82: T200C
Axle/Gears: 86:3:27 9 bolt, 82: 3:23 10 bolt
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

Originally Posted by Ruckusz28
The non monsoon HU would be a better bet and should interface directly IIRC. About 10 years ago I had a GTA with the "performance sound." Pretty sure it uses high level inputs.

If you hook it up and the plugs mate listen for distortion. If there is alot of distortion at low volumes that means you need a low level input to the factory amp. Peripheral makes a part called the ISVE-61 that allows for easy integration into factory amps. I used to sell a ton of those to mustang guys looking to retain their old mach 460 setup.
The OE Delco has high level outputs. I think that the OE HU is the same regardless of if the vehicle has Performance Sound or not.

I have one of those high level/low level converters on my F-350 with a CD-6 Audiophile. It works perfectly with an aftermarket A-B amp and a D class subwoofer amp.
Old 06-08-2012, 07:59 AM
  #8  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (101)
 
my82roc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Levittown Pa
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts
Car: 89 Iroc Convertible
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27 Posi 9 bolt PBR
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

I have a pontiac factory cd player from an early 90`s car.Radio works fine but needs the cd mechanism refurbished.Its a bit dusty in the pic from sitting on my dresser for awhile
Attached Thumbnails Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?-img_1698.jpg  
Old 06-09-2012, 12:57 PM
  #9  
Senior Member

 
JimRockford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 28 Posts
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

You can indeed use a fourth generation 97-2002 Pontiac monsoon cd player in your third gen,there is no difference between it and the normal 7 band eq head unit other than it having the word "monsoon" on the faceplate.
It also does indeed have an amplifier built into it,its the later models that dont.
Old 06-10-2012, 05:37 AM
  #10  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
86WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Great Smoky Mountains, Bryson City North Carolina
Posts: 1,258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86WS6 30K and 82WS7 24K
Engine: 86:305 TPI, 82: 305 LG4
Transmission: 86:700R4, 82: T200C
Axle/Gears: 86:3:27 9 bolt, 82: 3:23 10 bolt
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

Thanks for the info.

Is it feasable to upgrade from a Performance Sound amp to a Monsoon amp? It seems like there might be some compatibility issues with the amps?
Old 06-16-2012, 03:20 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

 
soarestransam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New Bedford MA
Posts: 855
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1988 Gta trans am project 1-1/2
Engine: 86 4 bolt main cammed sbc 355 hsr
Transmission: 89 wc bw t5
Axle/Gears: Bw 9 bolt (3.27) pbr 11in
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

I just got done doing this swap as well an im very pleased with it like above said grind down the metal tabs an installs like a glove
Old 06-16-2012, 03:58 PM
  #12  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
86WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Great Smoky Mountains, Bryson City North Carolina
Posts: 1,258
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86WS6 30K and 82WS7 24K
Engine: 86:305 TPI, 82: 305 LG4
Transmission: 86:700R4, 82: T200C
Axle/Gears: 86:3:27 9 bolt, 82: 3:23 10 bolt
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

Originally Posted by soarestransam
I just got done doing this swap as well an im very pleased with it like above said grind down the metal tabs an installs like a glove
Did you swap the HU and are still using the Performance Sound amp? Or did you swap in the Monsoon amp as well? Thanks in advance.
Old 06-27-2012, 08:56 AM
  #13  
Senior Member

 
soarestransam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New Bedford MA
Posts: 855
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1988 Gta trans am project 1-1/2
Engine: 86 4 bolt main cammed sbc 355 hsr
Transmission: 89 wc bw t5
Axle/Gears: Bw 9 bolt (3.27) pbr 11in
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

Im still using the performance sound amp sounds pretty good but i really dont need it since it has the 7 equalizers tabs to change the sound an base but im kinda having a problem with it as well its way to hot an shorts out but once the radio is cool it will work again i still have power to the radio an everything just the clock display doesnt appear
Old 07-09-2012, 11:40 PM
  #14  
Member

iTrader: (1)
 
SuperHawk996xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Columbia SC
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 350 cid bore too much to list.
Transmission: 700-R4
Re: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?

wow, I didnt know these car came with a CD player in the early 90's!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hawk312
Firebirds for Sale
36
08-22-2017 08:55 PM
crt454
Interior Parts Wanted
10
06-23-2017 02:25 PM
gta90
TPI
40
09-15-2015 04:00 PM
DJanes97
Exhaust
2
09-01-2015 02:55 PM
midias
Exhaust
20
08-22-2015 01:42 AM



Quick Reply: Upgrading from a Performance Sound to a Monsoon?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:26 AM.