Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
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Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
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Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
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Rare 87 ASC GTA:
Door spears, and all... 3rd Brake light looks smaller than mine...
Rare 87 ASC GTA:
Door spears, and all... 3rd Brake light looks smaller than mine...
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Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
I've been wondering the same thing. Assume you're talking about the buckle specifically. My 1992 T/A convert used the original style buckle. I know this is a 1987 but not sure why this would have been any different. It looks like the buckle style that Ford used during that period. Perhaps @okfoz has input?
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Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
The buckle does not appear to be original... Not sure what they are out of, ASC did change the belts for the front seats because of the position, instead of being mounted overhead they were mounted the Body behind the door. So they had to change the springs and such...
IDK maybe it was an early ASC design, but the VIN is not that low...
IDK maybe it was an early ASC design, but the VIN is not that low...
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Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
Nice looking car, too bad it has that front license plate bracket
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Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt/3.45
Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
Web searching pictures of 1987, 1988 and 1989 Firebird and Camaro convertibles:
Interiors show standard 3rdgen-style front seat belts, not the belts on the car in this thread.
The narrower 3rd brake light looks correct on 87 and 88 Firebirds, then wider in 89. Narrower also looks correct on 87 Camaros, wider in 88. So a narrow 1st design, formally standardized to a wider 2nd design for 1989?
The "door spears" look correct on 87 Firebirds and Camaros, then found only on some, but not most, 88 Firebirds and Camaros. So again, a 1st design with spears phased out in early 1988, formally standardized to no spears for 1989?
Interiors show standard 3rdgen-style front seat belts, not the belts on the car in this thread.
The narrower 3rd brake light looks correct on 87 and 88 Firebirds, then wider in 89. Narrower also looks correct on 87 Camaros, wider in 88. So a narrow 1st design, formally standardized to a wider 2nd design for 1989?
The "door spears" look correct on 87 Firebirds and Camaros, then found only on some, but not most, 88 Firebirds and Camaros. So again, a 1st design with spears phased out in early 1988, formally standardized to no spears for 1989?
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
I think the wider CHSML started in 88 on the Firebird as well... It may have been a mid year change, or Model Year Change.
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Car: 91 Trans Am Convertible
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
My '91 came standard with the "door spears". I thought they all came that way in '91 and '92. And I agree with Okfoz, remove the front license plate bracket.
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Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
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Transmission: 700r4 Automatic
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Car: 91 Trans Am Convertible
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
BigandBadGTA - Not sure we are talking about the same "spears". I am talking about the body side, bump moldings (3 pieces each side -front fender, door, and rear quarter) between the wheels as I have highlighted on the attached pic of my car.
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Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
The spears we are talking about are on the top of the door for the Convertibles... For 86 and 87, possibly early early 88 there was an extension on the Convertibles that went on the doors...
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Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
Transmission: 700r4 Automatic
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Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
Top of doors, not the body side moldings.
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Car: 91 Trans Am Convertible
Engine: LB9 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 5 SPD
Axle/Gears: Posi Rear
Re: Rare 87 GTA Convertible w/ side spears:
Thanks for the images. I thought we might be discussing different parts and, no, I do not have these pieces on my '91.
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