Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

overheating once more plz help!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-28-2003, 03:20 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
86FirebirdV8350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: WC T5
overheating once more plz help!

heres what i've replaced so far...new water pump, new 180* thermostat, new coolant, and the fan is a manual flex fan bolted on the water pump....what could be the problem now? it gets crazy hot in traffic within 5 minutes...the air dam is intact...the only thing left to suspect is the radiator itself? could that really be something that would cause this?
Old 04-28-2003, 05:21 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

 
brodyscamaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: CC, TX
Posts: 5,144
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1999 Yamaha Banshee
Engine: 379cc twin cyl 2-stroke stroker
Transmission: 6 spd manual
Axle/Gears: 14/41 tooth
What year is your car? Is the fan spinning the correct way for proper air flow? Also, I have had new thermostats that never open.
Old 04-28-2003, 08:19 PM
  #3  
Member
Thread Starter
 
86FirebirdV8350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: WC T5
its an 86...the electric fan crapped out so i just put a flex fan on it...it blows the air towards the engine...is it supposed to? i always thought that it should blow it at the radiator...but anyways...do i need a radiator, it is kinda old...but the thermostat does work and so does the water pump and such
Old 04-29-2003, 04:59 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member
 
92 zzz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 1,886
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Guess
Engine: Crazy 8
Transmission: So close to being a manual I can taste it
Do you have a fan shroud? You said it had an electric before. If you do not put in a fan shroud, the air is not being pulled through the radiator. Take a picture of it if you can and post it if you are not sure.

And the fan is designed to pull air across the radiator to remove heat from it.
Old 04-29-2003, 07:41 PM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
 
86FirebirdV8350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: WC T5
hmm...the fan shroud i do not have lol maybe thats my problem...but i do have a leaky radiator too, so maybe i should replace the radiator and get a shroud from the junk yard
Old 04-29-2003, 08:54 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
 
mdr211's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Central Massachusetts
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 86 camaro Z28
Engine: 305 carb
i hope youve already tried replacing your radiator cap...
Old 04-29-2003, 09:36 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member
 
92 zzz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 1,886
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Guess
Engine: Crazy 8
Transmission: So close to being a manual I can taste it
Originally posted by 86FirebirdV8350
hmm...the fan shroud i do not have lol maybe thats my problem...but i do have a leaky radiator too, so maybe i should replace the radiator and get a shroud from the junk yard
Yeah, I would do just that. With a leaky radiator, you won't hold pressure or coolant. No fan shroud, no air moving across radiator when moving slow or at stand still.
Old 04-30-2003, 03:52 AM
  #8  
Member
 
txhotRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 267
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'de replace the radiator anyways... if it's leaky.. AND MAKE SURE TO REPLACE THE RADIATOR CAP... it's small BUT can make a car overheat BIG TIME,, if you are any good at fabricating stuff... or making stuff fit... I'd get a fan shroud from almost any old chevy W/ a fan, and make it work on your car... either that... or since you will be in a junk yard ANYWAYS.. look for a replacement fan motor for your electric one (they are better in my opinion anyways... more engine room, no fan clutch to adjust, easier to reach crap when there is NO fan there, etc...
good luck
Old 04-30-2003, 07:03 PM
  #9  
Member
Thread Starter
 
86FirebirdV8350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: WC T5
found an 84 with a shroud...got that and i put it in, also removed the other radiator in the front that hooked into the a/c because i already removed the ac components...doesnt overheat anymore, i also grabbed another radiator while i was there...i'll be puttin that in this weekend just to be on the safe side cuz i dont want it to leak anymore...thanks for all your replies...problem solved
Old 04-30-2003, 08:32 PM
  #10  
Supreme Member
 
92 zzz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 1,886
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Guess
Engine: Crazy 8
Transmission: So close to being a manual I can taste it
Originally posted by 86FirebirdV8350
found an 84 with a shroud...got that and i put it in, also removed the other radiator in the front that hooked into the a/c because i already removed the ac components...doesnt overheat anymore, i also grabbed another radiator while i was there...i'll be puttin that in this weekend just to be on the safe side cuz i dont want it to leak anymore...thanks for all your replies...problem solved
Good job.
Old 04-30-2003, 08:47 PM
  #11  
Member
 
txhotRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 267
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
creativity, and problem solving ARE the best assets for fixing any car... (that and a little bit of mechanical knowledge)
I hope it works well
Old 05-01-2003, 06:36 AM
  #12  
Supreme Member
 
Danno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington, PA USA
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: "02 z-28
Engine: LS-1
Transmission: 4L60E
Originally posted by 86FirebirdV8350
hmm...the fan shroud i do not have lol maybe thats my problem...but i do have a leaky radiator too, so maybe i should replace the radiator and get a shroud from the junk yard
If your rad is leaking you are not holding pressure. There's your answer. Without system pressure the boiling point of the coolant mix drops way down. Make sure the system can hold at least 15lbs before troubleshooting any further.
Old 05-01-2003, 07:27 AM
  #13  
Supreme Member
 
92 zzz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 1,886
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Guess
Engine: Crazy 8
Transmission: So close to being a manual I can taste it
Originally posted by Danno
If your rad is leaking you are not holding pressure. There's your answer. Without system pressure the boiling point of the coolant mix drops way down. Make sure the system can hold at least 15lbs before troubleshooting any further.

But with a mechanical fan and not shroud, he has 2 problems. Sure a leaking radiator will cause a problem. And unsufficient airflow across the radiator will cause a problem as well. I think he got it fixed though. He put in a new radiator and got a shroud from the bone yard.
Old 05-03-2003, 10:21 AM
  #14  
Member
Thread Starter
 
86FirebirdV8350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91' Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: WC T5
yeah i fixed it, i just grabbed a radiator and shroud from the junkyard, no more leaks, no more overheating...and that damn ac condensor was all clogged up too and was blockin air flow, and since i removed the ac i just pulled that out as well for more air flow
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sheachopper
Cooling
11
07-31-2019 11:27 AM
Bubbajones_ya
Cooling
23
09-14-2015 08:38 PM
mustangman65_79
Exhaust
16
09-01-2015 03:51 PM
inferno15
TBI
7
08-29-2015 01:48 AM



Quick Reply: overheating once more plz help!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:39 AM.