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so I'm trying to log a 90 tpi firebird with tuner pro. so I hook up my cable, load the .ads file for the 730. hit connect, click the key on and it connects and I get live data for about 2 sec then it just stops. error packets start running up and if I disconnect and try to re connect. it won't until I switch the key off, close tuner pro, re open it and hit connect again and click the key forward. then it works for 2 secs and stops again. thats all I can get out of this car.


now to tie my car into this prob, I have a 91z28 with code 59 in the stock 730 and it will connect to it with no issue, but when I am logging it, skips samples in boost. I'm not sure if its based on rpm or boost because its a supercharger and they are connected.... mine I can work around because I have an lm1 to log under boost, and just use tuner pro data log for drivability.


my car logged boost just fine when I first started and also the firebird did as well. but this was months ago when I first picked up this tuning stuff used. now it seems to not work. I tired uninstalling and re installing tunerpro, upgraded the ram to 160meg total from the 64meg it had, thinking that may be it. since I think the $8D outputs more things during logging any 59, or atleast it seemed to look like that in the excel file.

but now that the ram didn't fix it, I'm lost.... any ideas? cause I searched and didn't see any posts about being able to connect for only a few secs or not working at high rpms/boost.

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so I'm still working on this. today I tried doing a search for everything with the tuner pro name on it and deleting it, then going to the registry and running the search there and cleaning anything left over in there.


then installed a fresh copy of tunerpro went out and tried it... something.

I even pmed the last owner of the laptop if he ever had any problems and he said no.. never did and that I should ask on the tuner pro board. which I've done a few weeks ago and nothing.


blah. I'm lost.

I did have one quick question.. under preferences in tuner pro, you can set the simple rate. mine is set to 10k and when logging it says 9.something. do you guys run faster than that, say the 10k its set at?

I know I'm reaching here.

Lucid

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I wish I could help you out better, but I have MAF car experience.

Is there another program you can try?

I use WinALDL for datalogging, I never could get tunerpro RT to datalog correctly. I dont see support for a 730 ECM on here...

I would try Datamaster, I heard good things about that program as well.

Also, what version of windows are you using? You mentioned that you upgraded from 64 megs of ram.

I would consider windows 98SE the bare minimum for using the program IMHO (because I like USB support) but you may be able to get older version to work if you have the right drivers or system files:

http://www.tunerpro.net/FAQTunerpro.htm

Are you using a USB ALDL cable or a serial port ALDL cable?

Windows 2000 has issues with serial data for some reason.

If you have a serial cable, make sure you have it set on the right setting. My cable has a jumper on it to initiate the 10k resistor or else the ECM will not send out serial data and you will get an error. Come to think of it, the last statement I made probably is the most important.

Good luck!

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yeah i just happened to be on WinALDL's site tonight and they don't show support for the 730.


i guess i can try downloading Datamaster and trying it. but for my car running code 59, only tuner pro works for autotune and it makes life really simple lol. well atleast when you can input samples while in boost it does. i forgot how much it sucks to have to log to my lm1 and try to cross reference it to the ve table and then go make a run again.

for the other car datamaster would prob be fine. i'm just trying to clean up the stock bin and turn on highway mode in it. i think i'll download that tonight and try it tomorrow.

oh and the adl cable doesn't have any switches, its also a serial port one. so i think it should work. well it does for a few sec on one and when just driving around normal on the other.

the part that has me is, both of these cars logged just find a month or so ago when i got this stuff. matter of fact logging the stock car and seeing how rich it was at wot(.9mv on the stock o2 and now i'm seeing 11.3:1 on the wide band i got for it. stock tpi car shouldn't need that haha) is the reason i ordered the stuff to tune it with.

the laptop is old and does have windows 98 on it, but i don't think its windows 98se. but tunerpro says a 233mhz or better and its 266mhz. plus it used to work lol. sad part is all my friends have new laptops with only usb port or worse yet vista. plus they don't really like the idea of me installing a bunch of software on their stuff that i can't get to work on mine, and don't know why haha

blah... maybe i'll pull the cable apart and check for bad solder joins or something.

either way, thanks for the ideas.

Lucid

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The TPI cars need that 10K resister or else it wont work, I had that problem as well. Make sure that cable has the 10K and if it doesnt you can get a simple 10,000 Ohm resister at Radioshack and plug it in directly on the ALDL interface on the car.

I bought a serial port cable from ALDLcables.com before they jacked the prices up. I like to use the USB for other things.

My laptop is nothing new, its a Compaq Armada 1750 that I upgraded to a P3 500mhz with 320 megs of Ram and I used to have windows 98SE on it. I never had any problems datalogging with 98, couple with 2000.

Make sure you read the FAQ from Tunerpro, they mentioned having the right drivers.

It might be a settings issue, I remember when I installed a Bluetooth adapter it messed with all the port settings and I couldnt get my Burn1 to work. When I emailed Craig, he suggested I remember changing or installing any new programs, that triggered the thought process in my head. I removed the bluetooth crap and fixed the port settings and all was good in my world.

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hmm well i pulled it apart. its a AKMcables.com one. and i found this on their site. its an RS232


mine doesn't have this 10k resistor but from what this says i don't need it? since i'm using it on a 730 from a 91 and a 90.


i could try adding one if it wouldn't hurt anything, but since it worked before and does connect to one now and the other for a bit.





i will deff look for the faq about drivers.

Lucid

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Well I learn something new everyday. I guess you dont need a resister after all.

I would definitely look into a driver or settings problem.

Six_Shooter

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The 10K ohm resistor is only needed for the '165 ECM.

Lucid

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Its 10K

Settings information:

http://www.akmcables.com/serial.doc

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i didn't see that link last night when on their site, but it was late lol.

i'll look/read thou it. but i still have a hard time thinking something is blocking the port but because it connects every time on the first key on, its just after a few sec it stops seeing data and wont reconnect if i disconnect and try again without cycling the key off. and on the other car it logs data at lower rpms no problem plus even when i make boost that doesn't get recorded, it doesn't disconnect, it just skips everything until i let off the gas.

Six_Shooter

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Yes it is, for some reason I missed pressing the zero.

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still failing at this. I borrowed a friends laptop to try it. its newer so it has xp and no serial port. which I've read works but I can't figure it out. I hook it up, open tp and do the cable test and it passes. so I then hit connect and after a bit it fails and then I try the cable test again and it can't find it. nothing I do makes it find it till I restart TP. then it does the same thing again. I know in one of my searches I've read about someone else having the same prob but that was before I borrowed this one to try so I can't for the life of me find it again. any ideas

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just to follow up incase this pops up in anyone searches.


i fould a newer dell laptop that has xp on it and still has a serial port on it. it worked great on my car, and even my buddy's 93lt1 but did the same thing on my girl's car.

so i swaped the 730 ecm from my car to her's, switched to a empty number spot on the prominator and dumped the axxd bin i found online, into it and it worked fine.


i have yet to try her ecm in my car since its setup for code 59 but i will in a few days when the new prominator comes in.


i still have no idea why it connected and logged great a few month ago and then nothing when i tried later, but it seems it wasn't the laptop or any of the software or cables.

Lucid

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Most of the cables I have seen require a 12V power source to get them to work, my cable recently stopped working and I opened up the power plug (cig lighter) and the power wire broke off.

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iTrader: (5)

good idea, but nah, mine doesn't have a power plug.