F/S: Falconer race ported iron V6 heads

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Old 05-31-2006, 11:12 PM
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F/S: Falconer race ported iron V6 heads

I have a pallet of 23 iron heads of the type used in the 60 degree 6 racing effort in the late '80's. These are the heads used by Falconer on their 280 HP 2.8's and 300 HP 3.0's. That's 100 HP/Litre from naturally aspirated 60 degree V6's! The port work was done by BPE (www.bpeheads.com). Falconer ran 1.720 intake valves and 1.430 exhaust valves. I currently have a head at a shop being flowed. I am told they were run in competition with approximately 0.560 lift. They are physically capable of 0.600, but there's no gain beyond 0.560.

These heads are USED race heads that are in serviceable condition. These are NOT fully assembled, ready to run parts. Most are bare castings. Most need standard rebuild work in order to be run. Most need guides. A couple might need seats.

This is what the lot contained:
23 iron heads (20 ported, 2 cracked ported, 1 stock)
3 aluminum heads (2 with rectangular ports, one with trapezoidal ports)
24 pushrod guide plates
47 large rocker studs
12 small rocker studs
23 titanium intake valves
24 titanium exhaust valves
37 triple wound (or is it properly called dual w/ damper?) valvesprings
49 titanium retainers for small keepers
12 titanium retainers for large keepers
48 pr small keepers
12 pr large keepers
5 springs seats & associated parts

Pics to follow.
I will be taking a head and a pair of valves, springs and retainers to a shop next Monday. I'll have the head flowed and the spring measured.

In terms of sets, I have:
10 workable pairs of iron heads (putting 8 up for sale)
1 cracked pair of iron heads
1 stock head casting
almost 4 sets of 7/16" rocker studs (just missing 1)
1 set of 3/8" rocker studs
almost 4 sets of Titaium valves (missing 1 intake valve) Putting 2 sets up for sale
3 sets of springs + a spare
5 sets of titanium retainers & steel keepers (4 sets + spare for small keepers, 1 set for large keepers)
4 sets of pushrod guide plates
almost one head's worth of spring seats.

I would like to see $400 per pair of heads and $200 per set of valves. We can work things out on the other items.


This is also posted to:
60 Degree V6 - 60DegreeV6.com ::
RFT - Real Fiero Tech :: View topic - F/S: Falconer ported iron heads
PFF - F/S: Falconer ported iron heads - Pennock's Fiero Forum

Suggestions for other places to advertise would be welcome.
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Deck and Chambers:



Exhaust Port Work:



Exhaust Port Face:



Intake Port Work:






Intake Port Face:



Valves, Retainers and Spring:



On the deck and chambers pic, you can see cutting marks from a very large diameter head. I'd say that this is the factory deck surface on this particular head.

Falconer is definitely on the west coast... Heads came with no rust-preventative measures taken but were rust free. They sat here for a week and already had surface rust. I used a whole can of WD-40 thoroughly spraying down ALL of them. This one is one of the worst and it's not very bad... I caught things in time.

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Old 05-31-2006, 11:24 PM
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I apologize for posting this so much later on this forum than the others, but I didn't think about this as a V6 forum until someone pointed out that F-bodies have V6's too!

The preliminary list, in first come, first served order, includes the following people:


Shaun41178 (RFT) - Valves, heads(?)
betterthanyou (660) - heads
Naft (660) - heads
StudlyCamaro (660) - heads
Lou Dias (PFF) - Heads
LilChief (PFF) - Heads
alexintheus2002 (at) yahoo.com - heads
fiero87 (PFF) - Heads, valves(?)


If your name isn't on the list, don't despair! If you're money's green, get in line!
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Probably won't get too many V6 guys who'll want these here, but the more coverage the better.

I can vouch for Will, I'm sure you'll get these exactly as described.

Think about it people, 300hp in your 3.1 Camaro or Firebird will smoke a 300hp iron slug V8 in the same car while handling better too. When you race you can say "Eh, it's just a V6".
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You know you want a set of race heads for your Fiero, Steven...
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You're dern right I do.

I just don't want to spend money on them.
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Car: 1928 dodge coupe, 64 1/2 mustang
Engine: 350,289
Transmission: munice 4 speed,c4
Axle/Gears: 9" 3.00, 9" 3.25
will any of these work on a 3.4 v6
Old 06-01-2006, 08:12 PM
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These are ported GM castings. They will work on any V6 that will accept iron heads. The chambers have been worked a bit, so compression will be slightly lower than with stock iron heads. Choose pistons accordingly.
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Originally Posted by Eric Falconer

Will,

We have a problem here. I just got a call from a guy who saw the heads on the internet you are selling. I can not take the time to field calls from anyone who has questions about the heads. Please do whatever you have to in your listings to tell these people NOT to call here. We're way too busy.

Sincerely,

Erik
DO NOT CALL FALCONER. He sold these heads to me to be rid of them. As the email says, the last thing he needs right now is people calling him about these heads. DEAL WITH ME.

I don't want to keep these heads any longer than I have to. Trust me, when I have the flow numbers on them, I will post them here. Once that information is up, I will start accepting money. I wouldn't want to buy heads without flow numbers, so I'm not expecting anyone else to, either.

The shop says I should expect flow numbers in 1-2 days.
Thanks for your patience.
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FLOW NUMBERS

I had two heads flowed.

Code:
Lift      #1 Int    #2 Int
0.100     58.7      58.0
0.200     110.5     110.8
0.300     135.7     138.6
0.400     145.0     142.1
0.500     149.5     151.0
0.600     151.0     152.5

Lift      #1 Exh    #2 Exh
0.100     56.9      58.4
0.200     101.9     100.2
0.300     140.0     138.2
0.400     149.0     152.1
0.500     152.2     153.6
0.600     153.7     153.6
I find this data very interesting. While the peak numbers are less than I was hoping, the mid-lift numbers are marvelous.
These heads waste no time getting a big fraction of their flow going once the valve lifts. I think it's obvious that's what BPE was going for when they did this port work.
It's also very interesting that the exhaust flow is approximately the same as intake flow. This indicates that the engines on which these heads were used had very high compression.

This will be better than stock heads on a built engine, but they will REALLY shine when used with a blower or other form of forced induction.

A multi-angle valve job would probably provide significant improvement. I didn't have the scratch or time to have one done on this pair before getting the measurements done. The seats in these heads were last run in race engines over a decade ago, so they could benefit from cleanup work.

For those ready to buy, the best way would be via paypal to william.lucke@highspeedlink.net.

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I'll let the titanium retainers go at $100/set (set being enough for an engine) and the rocker studs go for $50/set.
Heads are $400/pair and Titanium valves $200/set.
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Originally Posted by Will's Fiero
This will be better than stock heads on a built engine, but they will REALLY shine when used with a blower or other form of forced induction.
All two of you turbo 60* people want to verify this? I'm curious.
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These numbers are from Oreif on PFF who had a stock head and a ported head flowed to see the difference. The "stock" head may have had a cleanup, I've heard both about this data.

Code:
Intake
Lift    Falconer #1 Falconer #2 Ported  Stock
0.100   58.7        58.0
0.200   110.5       110.8       98.1    96.1
0.300   135.7       138.6       139.0   129.0
0.400   145.0       142.1       158.6   148.6
0.500   149.5       151.0       165.7   155.7
0.600   151.0       152.5       166.5   156.5
				
Exhaust
Lift				
0.100   56.9        58.4		
0.200   101.9       100.2       88.0    82.0
0.300   140.0       138.2       117.3   107.3
0.400   149.0       152.1       131.3   121.3
0.500   152.2       153.6       140.2   130.2
0.600   153.7       153.6       145.2   135.2
The Falconer heads beat these at low lift and at every exhaust lift point. The Falconer heads only give ground at the highest intake lift.

As I said before, the valve job on the Falconer heads was raced on 10 or 15 years ago. A multi-angle valve job should show noticeable improvement at all lift points.

These heads were used on engines that made 300 HP naturally aspirated back in the day. The potential is definitely there. They will do well in any iron head V6 build. Modern roller cam technology can take even better advantage of their capabilities.

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