84'fxrupr

Hey guys
Once again my young and unknowledgable self has looked to you inorder to get info on my d@mn car. The lt1 project fell through and it seems that we(My "mecanic" and I) have come to the conclusion that the stock carbed 305 is shot. The car is an 84 with t-tops and a 700-R4. I would like a 350 only I have picky taste. My car doesn't have a 4 ft tall wing so i want to be able to beat the cars around here that do. I have been studying nitrous and i think i would like to use it on this motor. I would like a fuel injected engine that would be capable of running a 150-300 shot of nitrous. The nitrous would not be on all the time(only when i raced) so i would like the engine to be economical but able to handle a progressive shot. So Basically i want advice on engine combos. The budget for just the motor and swap is between 1000-1500(I will buy nitrous later). Any options you guys could tell me on a killer engine for a kid who likes to beat r!c{burners that would be great.
Thanks
Jared
P.S.Sorry for another long post!

posbird87

1000-1500 is a tight budget for a whole engine. maybe u could afford an l98 engine. get some work done on the heads, better camshaft and just slowly start building it to a nitrous motor.

id save up some money to increase that budget big time.

RB83L69

That budget is completely unrealistic.

Even doing all the short block and head assembly yourself, I doubt you can build a competitive 350 for much less than $2500, and it will be about $800 more than that to pay somebody else to put it together for you (if you use somebidy that can not only put it together, but also do it in such a way that it stays together). You can barely buy an AutoZone garbage rebuild made out of stock smogger junk out of the boneyard's leftover core pile after the good stuff is all pulled out for $1000. Just all of the "might as well" items like a water pump and paint, plus mandatory things like oil and filters and antifreeze and spark plugs and belts and hoses, will eat up $500 more. Then, in exchange for emptying your bank account down to the last cent, you'll have a disgusting POS that's even slower than the 175 HP wonders of the late 70s.

Save some more money. Lots of it. When you hit $2500, you're ready to start planning. The planning stage will give you enough time to acumulate some more money and then when you start doing it, maybe you'll have enough. Note, I did not say, when you hit $2500, start taking your car apart and disable it. That's another thing to consider.... how long will the car be out of service; these little projects have a way of taking many unforeseen months to complete, especially when money is tight and one has to wait for some cash to flow the right way.

84'fxrupr

Allright
I know that the budget sucks. I amlosing money on an lt1, more money on trying to get the 305 running and i'm still paying for tags (just paid) and insurance(just pAid) on a car that doesn't run.
what i told you is what i want to have.right now i have about 1500 to get running engine into my car that will run for a while. In december i begin a shop class that requires me(as well as gives me madatory time to work on my car!) to rebuild an engine. I was wanting reccomendation on what blocks to start with and how i should build it up. right now i have to pay for college classes but once i pay those money will come to my car again. Sorry for being so vague. So to restate the question: What would be a good block to start with that i could eventually build into a streetable engine that can take a 150-300 shot of nos.

THanks
Jared

Street Lethal

iTrader: (16)

That kind of budget will not do that much as far as today's high horsepower engine demands. But if 'eatin ric*' is all you're concerned with right now, and you need a daily driver.... then $1500 smackers is MORE than enough to make that 305 of your's dance!

If I were you.... I'd look into those new heads for the 305's, in which the valve's are angled, and are set-up for the 305 pistons to stay clear from the larger 2.02 intake valves!

Also, look into Edelbrock Performance Packages, ignitions..... and gearing. Shed some pounds from you're stock body with a Fiberglass hood, get a nice (not too much) TCI Saturday Night Special converter, and mid to high 12's is not a dream anymore for the anemic 305!

92 zzz28

A good engine that can handle 150-300 shot of NOS is an engine with a very stout bottom end. Sure a stock engine in good order can handle up to about 150, but when you start going over that, there is quite a bit of shock placed on those internal parts. If you seriously want to hit an engine with 300 horses of push button power, then you will NEED the following.

A very sound and properly machined block, not too much bore because cylinder walls are important

Nothing less than forged pistons and top-o-the-line rods. As for the crank, you should get a heavyduty forged piece but I have seen many nitrous engines live fairly long lives(live span of a full blown engine can be unexpectedly short) with cast steel cranks. In my opinion, don't skimp here, get a forged steel crank.

I really think you need to come up with a goal, other than beating Asian import vehicles. This way you have something you can shoot for that is obtainable and you can see what other people are doing to get where you want to be.

84'fxrupr

all right i think i have a goal:
I want a 350 with fuel injection so i am going to start looking for a 350 tpi out of a newer third gen that will run for now. Keep that engine running and begin saving money for the buildup and nitrous. How hard would a swap like this be? Anyone know of any links? Also, how hard would an engine like this be to build up?
thanks for all the help guys, i take my learning 1 day at a time
jared

Trace Cook

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92 zzz28

What engine is in your car now? How much power are you looking for?

Also, you don't need to get a late model engine, any 350 for the late 60s up to about 95??? should work. I am not sure of the 95, but you get the idea. If you come across a late model TPI, ****** it up. Just so you know, you can find older 350s for like $100 sometimes.

84'fxrupr

thanks for help
I found a 350 engine in the paper today that runs for $300. I believe it is out of a 69 camaro. would this engine be buildable into a nitrous motor? SOryy guys but im new to cars and learning. Thanks for bearing with me.
Jared

92 zzz28

You will need to get it to a good engine shop and have it thuroughly inspected. THe block will need to be magnafluxed and sonic tested. The crank maged as well. For nitrous use you can use a stock crank up to limit if it checks out okay. If the engine is really out of a 69, it may end up being steel. If not it can still be used with some preparation. I would use heavy duty rods and you need forged pistons with nitrous use. I suggest SRP. Excellent quality and affordable prices. For rods look to Oliver if you have a small fortune!! If you are like the rest of us and are on a budget Lunati and Eagle have great products. THere are too many companies that make affordable parts, I only named the ones I have personal experince with. If you can afford it, spring for the forged steel crank as well. Remember, its easier to change manifolds, cams, and heads, than it is crankshafts...

The biggest thing to making you engine live with nitrous is to take it slow. Start your jetting low and build up while examining plugs. Nitrous detonation sure looks neat when standing on the side line, but it breaks your heart when its your car!!!

Good luck...