Engine Swap Everything about swapping an engine into your Third Gen.....be it V6, V8, LTX/LSX, crate engine, etc. Pictures, questions, answers, and work logs.

Anyone here running a 396 SBC stroker?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-02-2004, 09:05 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyone here running a 396 SBC stroker?

I've seen a few rotating assemblies for sale that are relatively reasonably priced. I wanted to do a 400 block stroker but the blocks are hard to find and expensive when I can find them. 350 based blocks are much much cheaper and this is the biggest you can get out of them. Anyways, if anyone has a 396 SBC stroker, were you able to use a stock block? what clearance issues did you encounter? I imagine the issues would be the same as those encountered by people stroking 400s to 427s. And most importantly, what kinds of power, torque, RPM, and streetability did you encounter!?
Old 02-04-2004, 01:17 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
TraviZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Woodland, CA
Posts: 10,494
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: '02 Z06
Engine: L33 5.7
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: Stock IRS
what do u mean clearance issues? you mean stroking a 350 to 396? the clearance would be the same. unless your talking internally?
Old 02-04-2004, 03:24 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member

 
TunedPort 335's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Paxton, MA
Posts: 1,786
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1987 Camaro Z28
Engine: 335 TPI Stroker
Transmission: Tremec TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt / 3.42
Re: Anyone here running a 396 SBC stroker?

Originally posted by PhoenixFB350
I've seen a few rotating assemblies for sale that are relatively reasonably priced. I wanted to do a 400 block stroker but the blocks are hard to find and expensive when I can find them. 350 based blocks are much much cheaper and this is the biggest you can get out of them. Anyways, if anyone has a 396 SBC stroker, were you able to use a stock block? what clearance issues did you encounter? I imagine the issues would be the same as those encountered by people stroking 400s to 427s. And most importantly, what kinds of power, torque, RPM, and streetability did you encounter!?
I know of a couple 4th gen guys who have built them. Yes you can use the stock block, as long as you don't grind away too much metal for the crank & rod clearance (these are all LT1 blocks though).

I am not sure if a GEN 1 sbc has the same amount of clearance inside needed for grinding.
Old 02-04-2004, 06:15 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by TraviZ
what do u mean clearance issues? you mean stroking a 350 to 396? the clearance would be the same. unless your talking internally?
I am talking internally. Flatlander racing has kits and doesn't mention anything about needing a special block (like the big inch 450+ ci 400 based blocks). I'm guessing its a 4.060" x 4.000" very VERY close to the bore x stroke of the 36 BBC actually. all these kits come with 6" rods and forged bottom ends. Probably need a small base circle cam. anyways, Tunedport 335, could you ask your LT1 friends what they've done and what kind of power they make
Old 02-05-2004, 01:51 PM
  #5  
Supreme Member

 
TunedPort 335's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Paxton, MA
Posts: 1,786
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1987 Camaro Z28
Engine: 335 TPI Stroker
Transmission: Tremec TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt / 3.42
http://96silverz.cz28.com/

It makes 840 flywheel HP on pump gas, and 925hp on 100 octane. The less radical N/A ones normally make around 500hp given the right combination of parts.

Check out the message boards on www.camaroz28.com , theres quite a few guys who own 396+ci stroker LT1's there.
Old 02-07-2004, 10:18 AM
  #6  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well, I was a little off on my bore x stroke for the 396. its a 4.030 x 3.875, so a little less stroke, which is a bit better than a square motor. the 4" stroker is a 407. that Z28 is insane.
Old 02-07-2004, 10:23 AM
  #7  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
conlinj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rockledge, PA
Posts: 1,121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
there was that car in gmhightechperformance...
Old 02-07-2004, 10:47 AM
  #8  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by conlinj
there was that car in gmhightechperformance...
what kind of power did it make? didn't they just keep that TPI garbage on it???
Old 02-07-2004, 11:34 AM
  #9  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
conlinj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rockledge, PA
Posts: 1,121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
it could have made more power but the were trying to keep it emissions legal, so they went with the superram intake, it probably could have made more power with a miniram or stealth ram. I believe it ran low 12's maybe a high 11. Tpi is not garbage if you tune it right
Old 02-07-2004, 12:11 PM
  #10  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I should be able to run low 12s with an HSR on my engine at the moment. ran a 12.7@108 with TPI on a built 350. then I blew something, cause its been acting up all winter :-/
high 11s isn't bad for a completely emissions legal build. I bet 10s are in order for a non-emissions build! that'd be nuts
Old 02-07-2004, 12:22 PM
  #11  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
conlinj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rockledge, PA
Posts: 1,121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
o yeah get some long tubes and a miniram 4" mufflex system it should be there
Old 02-07-2004, 12:24 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by conlinj
o yeah get some long tubes and a miniram 4" mufflex system it should be there
I've got long tubes and 2.5" true duals. miniram is insanely expensive, i'd rather get a modified LT1 intake
Old 02-07-2004, 01:20 PM
  #13  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
conlinj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rockledge, PA
Posts: 1,121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah it is expensive, i just don't like the the way u have to hack up a LT1 manifold to make it work though. The stealth ram is sweet as well if i were to do it that's how i would go, but i still think the miniram will out flow the stealth ram
Old 02-08-2004, 02:34 AM
  #14  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
from all I've read and seen, the HSR is a great street manifold, better than the LT1 intake manifold (which is prone to a number of problems, although usually minor, they can add up). I can't justify the cost of the mini-ram for a few more CFM or air and more rpm... 6000-6200 rpm is about where I'd like to shift this thing.
Old 02-08-2004, 02:31 PM
  #15  
TGO Supporter

 
Air_Adam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Posts: 9,067
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
396 BBC is 4.09" x 3.76"
Old 02-08-2004, 09:52 PM
  #16  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
PhoenixFB350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Air_Adam
396 BBC is 4.09" x 3.76"
talking about a 396 SBC stroker... it's 4.030 x 3.875
Old 02-10-2004, 06:04 PM
  #17  
TGO Supporter

 
Air_Adam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Posts: 9,067
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
I know... but someone asked what the BxS of the BBC 396 was.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
midge54
LTX and LSX
21
12-27-2019 04:14 PM
mhatfield 14
Tech / General Engine
5
10-24-2015 07:48 AM
Reddeath210
Firebirds for Sale
14
10-06-2015 08:20 AM
sreZ28
Engine Swap
4
08-14-2015 07:48 PM
BBSDesigns
Power Adders
10
08-11-2015 07:39 PM



Quick Reply: Anyone here running a 396 SBC stroker?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:59 PM.