Stevolwevol

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I had my shop put on a flow pro on my IROC, but it is too quiet. I am frustrated. I would like to hear some good sound, but I can hardly hear it in the car.

Pab's

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post a sound clip or video I have stock manifolds that go to a flowmaster 80's here's how mine sounds...maybe it helps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g49xG6Vhc4g

92RS_Ttop

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The loudest I've found is either a glasspack or a Flowmaster 40 series. I have shorty headers to 2.25" true duals, no cats, to a pair of Thrush glasspacks. My wife hates how loud it is, I love it.

Youtube clip after I finished installing the exhaust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzK0Q5Htjo

That was taken with my cell phone, mic on it isnt the greatest.

duf6

Hey 92RS is your car like mine? My glasspacks are loud as hell outside the car, but inside with the windows up cant hear it that much

Stevolwevol

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The guy that put the muffler is a friend of mine, and he warned me the flo pro would be too loud. I need to approach him and tell him how wrong he was w/o pissing him off. He runs a good shop, and he has been more than fair with me many times. Is there a way to alter the muffler and weld a cover over it? I don't have the tech to make a sound bite right now.

92RS_Ttop

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Yep

92RS_Ttop

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Just asking, but you HAVE stood behind the car while someone else rev'd the engine, right? If he's a reputable muffler shop guy/mechanic, he should know what he's talking about. As for modding the muffler, I guess technically you can remove it, cut the top open and remove the baffles inside, then weld it back up. I don't know about the vehicle inspection laws where you are, but in PA that is a BIG no-no.

Honestly, I'm not that familiar with those mufflers. If its a glasspack-type muffler you can try removing the packing material inside. That will usually make them louder.

Do you have turndowns on the end of your exhaust pipes? Those can quiet the exhaust down as well by aiming the sound at the ground instead of straight out the back. Its usually not a big difference though.

Stevolwevol

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The flow pro is not a glass pack, it more like a chambered muffler. I don't have inspection here in mich, so I am not worried about that here. The pipes are made like the factory pipes, but are 2 1/2" I believe, so they are turned down to a degree, and cut diagonally,,, like a camaro, but larger diameter. My RS on the other hand sounds great. It has a flow master, with stainless magnaflow tips welded on. I can hear it in the car when I drive. I have heard it (the car I am referring to) when someone was reving the engine and it sounds real good, only just not loud enough.

85T/A350

Best thing would be to just switch mufflers or run an electric cutout. Then you could control when and how loud it is.

UnderCover89TBI

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a flowmaster will be louder if louder is what you want. Or you can run a dynomax bullet muffler or something of that nature. you can run a flowmaster single chamber 6 inch case 10 series muffler. that's one of the loudest mufflers you can get. you can also try those new cherry bomb single chamber mufflers...

Ron U.S.M.C.

Just today I was on my way home and turned off the stereo to listen to my car run. Its one of the nicest sounds I have ever heard. I love the way my Camaro has that powerful inside and outside the car sound. Its the Flowmaster American Thunder 3in. Cat.back with 80 series muffler and 3in.tips. Most ether love it or hate it. My opinion is obvious and I have no problem hearing it.

chevy boi

get a set of cut outs. a loud exhaust is cool for about 3 months. Then it gets real annoying not being able to talk to friends without yelling in the car, not being able to listen to music with out it blasting it, or trying to keep a straight face when a cop sitting next to you at a stop light.

more then likely the exhaust is pretty loud already or your cat is clogged and is acting like a 2nd muffler. either way a cut out will solve your problems because it dosent get much louder then a straight pipe with a dump , and when your ears start ringing you can quite her down

coryprine

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GMMG chambered is loud as fk...but it will cost ya.

Pab's

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That's true! I dont think my exhaust is too loud but Im about to change it so well see. Luckily I only drive my car like 10 miles a week so if it get's stupid loud I dont have to put up with it long lol

fireturd350

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My long tubes with 4" exhaust and Hooker Max Flow Muffler (straight thru design) are stupid loud also.

I sent you a PM I have a Mccord 3" Power Plate with all the goodies and the cutout pipe on the classifieds.

JamesC

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I agree. Loud at WOT can be cool, however. Have a friend drive by and get on it. You may like what you hear from outside the car. My Hooker set-up is pretty tame at idle and under normal driving conditions, but has a nasty snarl at WOT.

JamesC

Stevolwevol

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I am going to the shop and I'm gonna talk to the owner about making things resinate a little better.

bad_to_the_bone

i have shorty headers into true duals 2.5 inch and 2 flo pro mufflers i can hear mine inside the car with out a big drone like the 80 series and its acually little louder then the flowmaster at idle but when i stand on it its loud but not as a big blatt like the flowmaster wich i love the way mine sounds and the neibours like it this way better too

Shane B

Im running a flowmaster 80 series and no cat,i get compliments all the time on how it sounds.

92RS_Ttop

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I love the way the 80 series sound as well. If they had one that would have worked with my true duals, I would have used it. I had one on the Camaro when it had the V6 and when I first swapped to the V8 and I loved the way it sounded.

Camaro305SB

Long tubes with Flowmaster single chambers right off the collectors

Ron U.S.M.C.

Let us know how it goes

Stevolwevol

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I'm stuck with the muffler I have. He told me I could get some more sound by adding 3 1/2 inch tips. hmmmm The flow pro sounds good, but way too tame.

BlackenedBird

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Take the muffler off, put pipe in its place....Done.

Stevolwevol

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Wouldn't that be a bit over the top?

BlackenedBird

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On my 1st 3rd gen, a 92 RS. 305/TBI/T5....

I cut the muffler off, continued the exhaust straight out the passenger side for just a single tip on that side.

Sounded great, cops never bothered me. Cat quiets the sound enough that I never got in trouble, but it was loud/sounded good.

Stevolwevol

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I would like to keep the duel outlet look. That would probably get tricky.

BlackenedBird

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Not tricky at all. It would end up just like my current cat-back. Just a y-piece & a piece of straight pipe.

UnderCover89TBI

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Im debating changing my muffler now too....decision!

Stevolwevol

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OK, I see. If I did that, I would have a strait pipe all the way. No cat on mine.

BlackenedBird

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The "bulge" you see in the pic, above the words is the bullet muffler that is used on that cat-back.

What I did to mine years ago, was to keep the cat & delete the muffler. Delete both & it would definitely get louder.

Stevolwevol

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So you have a cat and a bulge for a muffler? or cat delete and bulge muffler? Looks like a small glass pack.

BlackenedBird

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I have a Magnaflow cat and a Magnaflow bullet (bulge) muffler.

BlackenedBird

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^ That (cat only, no muffler) was done to my 305 TBI/T5 92 RS back in 95/96.

Now I have that Texas Speed & Performance Magnaflow exhaust on my 350 TPI/700R4 'bird.

Stevolwevol

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I guess my next question is why you have 2 mufflers? Have you gone quiet?

BlackenedBird

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I fixed it. 1 Magnaflow 2-way CAT (technically this is illegal since i no longer have a smog pump or the tubing, but my tail pipe tests were very clean & they didn't notice the missing smog pump) & 1 Magnaflow MUFFLER. Not 2 mufflers.

Stevolwevol

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Ohhhh I get it now. Ridiculous that has to be illegal. The smog pump really was a way to "fool" the system by pumping good air into the cat to get "lower" emissions. What you have now probably is better in regard to emissions since the cat is probably better quality than the original one. In Michigan there is no emissions testing, so some of us have misplaced our cats.

Ron U.S.M.C.

Stevolwevol, Sorry to hear the shop said your stuck with it.Sounds like one of those bight the bullet moments when you realize any of the choices suggested will cost you. Seems to me I would just replace it with a different muffler.The shop should at least work with you and cut you some slack, if they don't I would find another shop. As far as there tips suggestion, that's not cheep to do either and your stuck with a muffler that could still disappoint you.

Stevolwevol

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I agree. My hearing is not what it should be, so it may sound better than I give credit for, but I want to hear the drone while I am driving, and I don't. It sounds very nice, but just not aggressive enough. I'll see what they will do for me. Strait pipes doesn't sound bad to me. Or maybe a blue tube type glass pack where the converter goes, and strait pipes after that.

thetrucker21

DO NOT STRAIGHT PIPE!!! It sounds so un clean and to loud and not toned. me and my brother straight piped his camaro and we were so sick of it after a while. if you want a seriously nice exhaust, get a Borla, those systems are seriously legit.
http://www.borla.com/home.aspx?gclid...FYje4AodDUjNuA
you will have the nicest sound out there

BlackenedBird

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Have you priced Borla? $1012 for a 3rd gen cat back system!

Even with my 50% certificate, it still ends up higher than any other exhaust and double the cost of the cat-back I have already.

Needless to say....Even at 50% off I'm still not going with a Borla cat-back.

Pab's

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Yeah borla can suck the left one for all I care 1000+ for exhaust BS!!!


I still think you should post a video when I first got the exhaust done in my truck (stock manifolds with high flow cat and flowmaster series 40) I thought it was not loud enough but everyone kept saying it was and alarm's would be set off....so maybe it's all in your head and we can tell you

fireturd350

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The thing I find hilarious about the Borla setup is it's basically a single exit exhaust muffler or muffler exit with straight pipe. You're just paying for the company name and stainless steel IMO.

Pic is of the 4th gens I imagine 3rd gens are the same.


Compared to my 4" catback that I have ~$180 I'll just take the aluminum pipe that might rust a little bit.

Stevolwevol

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Stainless does offer a different tone than mild steel. Stainless tips seem to sound different in a good way than chromies also.

Pab's

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Im not a sound expert on weather ss sounds better than chrome or what not but with the $500+ your saving over a borla exhaust you can just get a better muffler imo

82_Camaro

I put a set of hooker shorties with a magna flow exhaust and an electronic cut out and it's loud if that gives u any idea.