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Old 06-21-2004, 08:12 PM
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Air Intake mod complete.

Thanks for all the suggestions people.

Here is a pic.

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Old 06-21-2004, 11:38 PM
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Well done, looks good

Hows it held up though? Looks like its just resting on the rad hose?
Old 06-22-2004, 07:03 AM
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Thanks.

The filter is holding most of the weight, and the rest is on the rad hose.

It sounds like an unstable mounting but the whole assembly is super light.

I like how it cleaned up the appearance of the engine bay a little.

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So - give us a parts list and a run down on what you did to build this, where the parts came from, etc.
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Car: 89 Firebird
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Parts list:

KN&N Air filter - $52.00
2' of 3" ABS Pipe - $8.00
3"out to 3"in adaptor - $3.00
ABS Cement - $2.80
Camaro ribbed ducting - $5.00
MAF Sensor - Free (off stock intake)
Hose clamps - Free (Off stock intake)
Chunk of wire and connectors - Free (Junk onhand)
Black wire jacket - Free (Junk onhand)

Total cost: $70.80

The building proceedure:

1) Removed stock intake (Man that felt good)
2) Saved hose clamps, MAF sensor, AT sensor and stock ribbed ducting.
3) Mocked up basic layout of intake to be.

- We were going to use the ducting from the camaro dual snorkel intake then connect that to the ABS with an adaptor piece, from there to the MAF then to the filter.

This didn't work. The camaro ducting didn't want to fit on the ABs adaptor piece.

Plan 'B' was to use the Firebird's stock ducting going right around the ABS pipe. This worked. The ABS was just big enough to make the oval end nice and round. Sealed tight.

4) Connected MAF to air filter.

- Had to remove the 45 degree angle piece which had been crazy glued on. Once that was done and the end cleaned up, it slid right into the filter like a surgical glove. It kinda clunked into place. Hose clamp was tightened, and all was well.

5) Connected other side of MAF to the ABS pipeing.

- There were no parts around to adapt the ABS pipe to this side of the MAF. So we used the 3"out to 3"in adaptor, we cut about 1/2 the camaro ducting away so just the outside half was left. We managed to wedge the ribbed part of the ducting over the end of the MAF. This was not easy. That stuff doesn't like to stretch. Even boiling it didn't help. A little lubricant helped us slip it on.

6) Creat location for AT sensor and extend wires that connect to it.

- Here we drilled the appropriate sized hole for the sensor, in the thick part of the ABS connection where the adaptor went over the ABS pipe.

We extended the wires for the AT sensor. No problems here.

That is pretty much it. I installed a new TPS as well since I had one with some dead spots in it.


So do I notice any real difference?

In short. Yes. But I figure most of the noticable stuff is from the new TPS. The car doesn't bog as bad in passing gear, and the overall response of the car has improved.

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Old 06-23-2004, 04:14 PM
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Whats this..? All that typing I did, and no repllies?



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No, I just haven't responded yet.

Great job, I'm looking to try and improve this area on my Formula. Only difference is I may use 3" exhaust pipe instead of PVC. Luckily I don't have the MAF to worry about on my 91 (it's MAP based).

Thanks for all the typing and info - I really appreciate it!!!!


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Old 06-23-2004, 05:48 PM
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Exhaust pipe is a good plan. Seems heavily favored over PVC. Especially if you are runnin a larger engine.

I actualy had ABS pipeing. Its much thicker than PVC, but apparently a lower grade plastic. Used mainly for drainage and sewers.

I have been monitoring the temperature of the little chunk I have in there.. it has become only warm, and not hot.

This being in 38 celcius weather and on a freeway between cities.

I look forward to your pics on the intake you make.

Old 06-23-2004, 09:53 PM
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Nice mod man. i think K&N charges around $180 for a similar set-up.... I used exhast pipe and plumbing coupling for the same mod on my 99 blazer. I got a pic and info on my Z28 site (pg.2) ... If you could get some camaro parts with the two filters in the "Y" ducting up front, you could run the same set up as i do in my Z... Either way, these mods do make a difference..... more air is better, but more cold air is best. Thats why i prefer my Z28's set up through the foglight housing. its all on page 2 of my webpage... check it sumtime... I used some of that Cool Tape on the blazer mod since the pic, and i honestly think i wasted my money. It feels just as warm

I think the exhaust pipe im using attracts and retains more heat than plastic would. my blazer also has the radiator hose directly beneath my intake ducting, so im not too baffled by this.

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Old 06-24-2004, 09:18 AM
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That temp bit with the metal exhaust pipe is a good point. I just wished the PVC/ABS pipe looked better.....
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Heat conductivity was one of my worries with going with exhaust pipe.

This ABS barely gets warm.

I like


Thanks for the complements.
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Well then, lets take it apart and lightly sand that plastic pipe and give it a nice coat of paint. Your choice for the color

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Hey guys I made a cold air intake for my friends 98 Ford 150 truck and I used a 3" exhaust chrome tip and it looked great. It looks a lot better than the PVC/ABS pipe.
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PIX PLEASE!!!!
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yes, pix!! Along with parts and instructions!
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