who orders a ws6 with rear drums?
04-14-2003, 04:44 PM
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Car: 85 ta ws6 KITT
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: th350
who orders a ws6 with rear drums?
i mean...really?
i have an 85, 305tpi, th350(i'm guessing that was a swap)
no power accessories, the rear is stamped -borg-warner, front discs and rear drums.
someone was a cheap bastich
i have an 85, 305tpi, th350(i'm guessing that was a swap)
no power accessories, the rear is stamped -borg-warner, front discs and rear drums.
someone was a cheap bastich
04-14-2003, 07:23 PM
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More than you think, because my '89 Formie had WS6 standard, and it had drums...
04-15-2003, 04:46 PM
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Re: who orders a ws6 with rear drums?
Originally posted by N8MAN1068
i mean...really?
i have an 85, 305tpi, th350(i'm guessing that was a swap)
no power accessories, the rear is stamped -borg-warner, front discs and rear drums.
someone was a cheap bastich
i mean...really?
i have an 85, 305tpi, th350(i'm guessing that was a swap)
no power accessories, the rear is stamped -borg-warner, front discs and rear drums.
someone was a cheap bastich
04-15-2003, 11:48 PM
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Re: Re: who orders a ws6 with rear drums?
Originally posted by DJP87Z28
The buying public at that time was not up to date on the latest options as you are 25 years later.
The buying public at that time was not up to date on the latest options as you are 25 years later.
04-18-2003, 01:54 AM
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Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 5.7L TPI (L98)
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There were tons of sparsely optioned formulas that came from the factory, and rear disc brakes wasn't the only option that many didn't come with. My first car was an '87 Formula with an LG4 (305 4bbl) and a 5 speed. It had a crap peg-legger 3.23 10-bolt that sported rusty drums at the corners. The only features that rig had was a power seat and the factory sub, which was probably long gone by the time i got it (still had the little rf gain switch in the dash). The only thing that the great majority of thirdgen formulas have on other firebirds is purely suspension. People are just cheap and stupid, and don't really think things through. In 1987, the original owner of my formula could have a TPI engine rather than that sorry carbed POS for another $600. Its that same mentality that turns nice cars into the beat up buckets you see on the roads these days via neglect.
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04-18-2003, 07:28 AM
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Way back in the Eighties and with the price of cars increasing and with the sky high interest rates. That $600+ was a lot of money to pay for a engine option (TPI}. I know, I could of had a 350 IROC for a extra $1200 and had to settle for the 305TPI and get the $1000 rebate. So don't knock the ORIGINAL OWNERS of these cars or you would not be driving one now.
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A original owner of 1987 IROC-Z.
04-18-2003, 12:11 PM
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Car: 1991 Z28
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 4L60 automatic
Yeah some things do not make any sense about the rpo options but...
Why knock the original owners?The salesman were just as misinformed/not car people as they are now.The org owners bought the car off the lot. They did not build the car,not everyone pre-orders their car's options....plus no one forced you to buy the cars you have either. Just a thought.
04-20-2003, 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by DJP87Z28
So don't knock the ORIGINAL OWNERS of these cars or you would not be driving one now
So don't knock the ORIGINAL OWNERS of these cars or you would not be driving one now
One way or the other we would be driving used thirdgens now. However, if more of the cheap bastiches had ordered, or had only purchased the performance-optioned cars off the lots rather than the cheerleader-optioned cars, i.e. LG4, auto, rear drum w/2.7X rears, GM and the dealerships would have been forced to supply us with cars that were meant to go fast (with all the right parts), rather than look like they could. This would have resulted in better equipped thirdgens for our community.
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04-20-2003, 06:04 PM
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Don't be surprised. Many people only purchase cars based on looks and or fuel economy. Hence the plethera of Iron Duke F-bodies out there.
You think rear drums are bad. Try driving a 3000LBS. car with a 90HP 4 banger pushing it.
When you go to a dealer alot of times you will take something that's on the lot rather than ordering a vehicle. Also many sales people are more willing to work with you on vehicles that are on the lot rather than ordering another one.
I agree in principal that if you are going to get a car like this it should have the best of everything.
I thought to myself if I ever get the money to get a 4th gen new I would go in there and get the very best options, the most power, and the color I want.
Now since they are no longer made if I want to get one I will have to take what I can find that meets my criteria the best.
You think rear drums are bad. Try driving a 3000LBS. car with a 90HP 4 banger pushing it.
When you go to a dealer alot of times you will take something that's on the lot rather than ordering a vehicle. Also many sales people are more willing to work with you on vehicles that are on the lot rather than ordering another one.
I agree in principal that if you are going to get a car like this it should have the best of everything.
I thought to myself if I ever get the money to get a 4th gen new I would go in there and get the very best options, the most power, and the color I want.
Now since they are no longer made if I want to get one I will have to take what I can find that meets my criteria the best.
04-20-2003, 10:20 PM
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Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
My '83 HO car had litterally everything (as far as i can tell) except rear disks and a posi 
04-21-2003, 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by 87WS6
You think rear drums are bad. Try driving a 3000LBS. car with a 90HP 4 banger pushing it.
You think rear drums are bad. Try driving a 3000LBS. car with a 90HP 4 banger pushing it.
I second that!
04-29-2003, 12:02 PM
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Car: 91 Trans Am Convertible
Engine: 300 HP 350 CI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Drums?
If I remember correctly, someone mentioned in an older post about this same subject that, due to a strike, there was a shortage of disk rearends. This led to the use of rear drum rearends on many of the 90's cars with the WS6 package.
04-29-2003, 04:49 PM
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ive had an 85 trans am LG4 700r4 3.08 posi rear disc ws6 and an 84 Z28 HO 305 700r4 3.73 aluminum drum car,
kinda wierd in 84 year in itself
kinda wierd in 84 year in itself
04-30-2003, 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by 91DropTopTA
If I remember correctly, someone mentioned in an older post about this same subject that, due to a strike, there was a shortage of disk rearends. This led to the use of rear drum rearends on many of the 90's cars with the WS6 package.
If I remember correctly, someone mentioned in an older post about this same subject that, due to a strike, there was a shortage of disk rearends. This led to the use of rear drum rearends on many of the 90's cars with the WS6 package.
04-30-2003, 09:14 PM
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Car: 1990 Formula Firebird
Engine: 305TBI w/ Functional Sport Hood CAI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: SLP Posi and 3.23 Gears
My 1989 Formula has all options with the WS6 and it also has rear drums.
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05-04-2003, 02:11 PM
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My TA has the WS6 package and aluminum drums in back. Isn't that bad and if you really hate drums you can always change that That's the fun of owning a car, making it your own
That's the fun of owning a car, making it your own
05-05-2003, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by RPM WOT L 98
Was looking at a 1988 Formie, LO3, A4, WS6, hardtop, Rear drums, no power options none, BUT...a/c and cassette player. That is a wierdly optioned car, don't know if it was the dealer or the cust.
Was looking at a 1988 Formie, LO3, A4, WS6, hardtop, Rear drums, no power options none, BUT...a/c and cassette player. That is a wierdly optioned car, don't know if it was the dealer or the cust.
05-05-2003, 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by 91DropTopTA
If I remember correctly, someone mentioned in an older post about this same subject that, due to a strike, there was a shortage of disk rearends. This led to the use of rear drum rearends on many of the 90's cars with the WS6 package.
If I remember correctly, someone mentioned in an older post about this same subject that, due to a strike, there was a shortage of disk rearends. This led to the use of rear drum rearends on many of the 90's cars with the WS6 package.
When I first got the car and noticed that, I got pissed, thinking some ******* had swapped the rear in the cars past, then confused when I read the RPO's and found it was factory.
05-05-2003, 02:10 PM
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Car: Recaro Option T/A
Engine: 305 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: Automatic
Axle/Gears: 3:27 Borg Warner
who orders a ws6 with rear drums?
The same joker who specs out a Recaro seat option and no tilt wheel !
Don
The same joker who specs out a Recaro seat option and no tilt wheel !
Don
05-05-2003, 03:18 PM
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After reeading these replies for the last week, I've come to a conculsion. Everyone who makes these after the fact comments are the ONES WHO ARE MORONS & JOKERS. Its to bad you were
born thirty years too late.:lala: :lala: :lala:
born thirty years too late.:lala: :lala: :lala:
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