When did clearcoat start?
#2
Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Posts: 14,235
Received 164 Likes
on
119 Posts
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: When did clearcoat start?
1986 was the first year for the Clear Coat... Both Van Nuys and Norwood changed at the same time. With the change, 1986 was the ONLY year to have no paint codes transfer from the previous year. All other years from 1983 - 1985 and 1987 - 1992 all had colors carry over from the previous year.
John
John
#3
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Lakewood, CO
Posts: 1,602
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1994 Jeep Wrangler
Re: When did clearcoat start?
damn..... well, I guess I need to find a pro to buff my paint then. I don't want to screw it up.
Thanks for the quick response!
Thanks for the quick response!
#5
On Probation
Re: When did clearcoat start?
My 84 is single stage Enamel................When did GM stop using laquer?
#6
Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 208
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1985 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 2.8 LB8 HO
Transmission: 700R4 with OD
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 7.625 open-factory 3.42
Re: When did clearcoat start?
My firebird has a build date of July 1985 and has the base coat clear coat paint from the factory, (GM black) so it appears some of the late build 85's came with BCCC.
#7
Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Posts: 14,235
Received 164 Likes
on
119 Posts
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: When did clearcoat start?
What does your SPID sheet say?
19U = Black
41U = BCCC Black
It could have been a mid-year change, all I am going on is the books and lit that I have laying around.
John
19U = Black
41U = BCCC Black
It could have been a mid-year change, all I am going on is the books and lit that I have laying around.
John
Trending Topics
#8
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 2,361
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
1 Post
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LT1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt w/ 4.10 gears
Re: When did clearcoat start?
i could've sworn it looked like clear coat peeling on the b-pillar of my 84 T/A but I know it was original paint. Either way, it's getting resprayed with BCCC now! Can something happen to a single-stage paint to make it look similar to peeling clearcoat?
#9
Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 208
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1985 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 2.8 LB8 HO
Transmission: 700R4 with OD
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 7.625 open-factory 3.42
Re: When did clearcoat start?
The service parts identification label for my car says:
BC / CC WA - L 8555 U -8555
Breaking the codes this translates to GM black with urethane clear coat.
The build date on the car is July 1985. My opinion is that GM began to "pilot" certain changes with whatever was coming down the pike ahead of the model year that full production was suppose to take place. This was done of course to weed out any potential problems. This is why there are always a few cars out there that have strange parts that their really not suppose to have according to the reference guides.
BC / CC WA - L 8555 U -8555
Breaking the codes this translates to GM black with urethane clear coat.
The build date on the car is July 1985. My opinion is that GM began to "pilot" certain changes with whatever was coming down the pike ahead of the model year that full production was suppose to take place. This was done of course to weed out any potential problems. This is why there are always a few cars out there that have strange parts that their really not suppose to have according to the reference guides.
#10
Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Posts: 14,235
Received 164 Likes
on
119 Posts
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: When did clearcoat start?
I am not sure if the Firebird started earlier than the Camaro... I honestly was looking at the Camaro White book... I just thought it would have been very unusual for The Firebird to start a major change like that before the Camaro... It only made sense to have them both change at the same time.
John
John
#11
Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 208
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1985 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 2.8 LB8 HO
Transmission: 700R4 with OD
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 7.625 open-factory 3.42
Re: When did clearcoat start?
I'll tell you, I was very surprised to find out that this car had clear coat paint. Shortly after I bought it in 1988, I wanted to buy a small bottle of duplicolor brush on touch up paint to repair some stone chips and in breaking the codes on the service parts identification label in the center console box, I discovered it was a clear coat car. I had assumed when I bought it that it was single stage paint. Perhaps the plant in Norwood Ohio where the car was built was selected to try out the clear coat paint before full production began in 1986. I would say there are most likely some late 85 build Camaros out there with the factory clear coat paint too.
#12
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro Z-28
Engine: LG4 305 c.i.d. (5.0L); 4 BBL.
Transmission: 700 R4 ; 4-spd. Auto. O.D.
Axle/Gears: 3:23 posi (CODE: GU5)
Re: When did clearcoat start?
i just picked up a 1985 Z-28 Sport Coupe W/
iroc hood & wheels, and I decoded the vin today, found out it was built in Norwood, Ohio and has single stage enamel red paint job. (now it's up here in Thunder Bay, On. ,Canada!...go figure,..if cars could talk,..eh!)
iroc hood & wheels, and I decoded the vin today, found out it was built in Norwood, Ohio and has single stage enamel red paint job. (now it's up here in Thunder Bay, On. ,Canada!...go figure,..if cars could talk,..eh!)
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: When did clearcoat start?
My 85 TA was base/clear. Bought the car from the original owner, it was never repainted. I had to repair some damage myself, in sanding the car I know it was clearcoated. Unfortunately I gave all the paperwork away with that car so I cant post up the build sheet or anything else. I cant even remember exactly when it was built anymore.
#14
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro Z-28
Engine: LG4 305 c.i.d. (5.0L); 4 BBL.
Transmission: 700 R4 ; 4-spd. Auto. O.D.
Axle/Gears: 3:23 posi (CODE: GU5)
Re: When did clearcoat start?
Hey Madmax, I know what you mean. I've had over 20 cars throughout the years, and am pissed at myself for not at least taking photocopies of certain paper work. (maybe they didn't have them machines back then!..or I was too busy working on them to stop and take pictures...sure wish I had though). Ismo.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1992rs/ss
NW Indiana and South Chicago Suburb
12
05-19-2020 07:02 PM
1992rs/ss
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
16
01-28-2016 09:58 PM