Jason E

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...archRadius=300

Debating on going to look at this car. I don't like the mileage (66k), but I love everything else. Black. WS6? T-tops. 91-92 body style. I consider it a solid buy for the $7k asking, but if I could get it lower?? Even better!

What's the motive? Get back into a third gen to drive I've taken my IROC out three times this spring already. I feel guilty

The question is, for 91-92, was WS6 standard? I seem to remember 16" wheels being standard for 91-92, but not necessarily WS6. I'm ok with that...my base suspended 86 TA rode great. Thinking this might be a nice cruiser in memory of that one.

You know...the one I shouldn't have sold

IROCgiraffe

iTrader: (3)

Car looks sweet!!! GET IT!

chazman

iTrader: (4)

Yes. Me to. I need to stay off of Autotrader/Craigslist/Ebay/etc. late night myself.

In fact, I just found a high miles, over priced, kind of rough, '79 factory 4 speed Malibu in your neck of the woods yesterday, Jason.

eseibel67

305 automatic? No thanks. If you're staying up late at night perusing cars for sale I would expect to come up with something better than that.

Jason E

Response just sent back to ya via Facebook Call me anytime...you have my cell right?

Jason E

That was the argument behind selling my 86. Now I haven't stopped missing it since 3 months after I sold it My wife asked me last night "why don't you just call the guy and see if he'll sell it back to you? I don't know why you'd want it anyway...it was so ssssllllllooooowwww"...

Love my wife

chazman

iTrader: (4)

Well...a call doesn't cost anything. Just sayin'.

Plus, this whole "slow" business is all relative with 3rd gens. Even the fastests production ones, can be given a run for their money by a well driven new Accord.

JT

iTrader: (1)

WS6 was not standard. I ran the VIN through Compnine and it doesn't show WS6. Remember, though, you didn't need WS6 to get the bigger 16" wheels/tires - like this one has - on the later T/As.

UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER)(USED WITH DELUXE SPORT PKG W32) GA(UB3)
UQ1 RADIO,PROVISIONS FOR STEREO STEREO RDO PR0VISIONS(UQ1)
U1A RADIO,AM&FM STEREO,SEEK/SCAN,C.D. PLAYER,EQUILIZER,INCLUDES CLOCK CD PLAYER/EQLZR(U1A)
U62 SPEAKER SYSTEM,4,DUAL COAX FRONT,DUAL COAX PACKAGE SHELF 4 SPKR SYS(U62)
U75 ANTENNA,POWER(CHROME) PWR ANT(EXPORT)(U75)
VAN PLANT CODE VAN NUYS, CA, CPC VAN NUYS,CA PLANT CODE(VAN)
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73)
WS4 TRANS AM(MERCHANDISING OPTION)(2FS87 + WS4 = 2FW87) TRANS AM(WS4)
Y83 TRANS AM PACKAGE(MERCHANDISING OPTION) TRANS AM(Y83)
Y99 HANDLING PACKAGE(USED WITH SE Z7M) HANDLING PKG(Y99)
1SC PACKAGE-OPTION 03 (1SC)
1SZ PACKAGE OPTION- (1SZ)
18P WHEEL COLOR,CHARCOAL METALLIC (18P)
19C TRIM COMBINATION,CLOTH,BLACK (19C)
19I INTERIOR TRIM COLOR (19I)
19Q MOLDING COLOR,BLACK (19Q)
199 SEAT BELTS COLOR BLACK (19) (199)
41U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,BLACK (41U)
6ZW SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT LH SUSP(6ZW)
7ZW SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT RH SUSP(7ZW)
8NL SPRING-COMPTR SELECT RR LH SUSP(8NL)
9NL SPRING-COMPTR SELECT RR RH SUSP(9NL)
AAA Unknown
AH3 ADJUSTER,SEAT,4-WAY MANUAL,DRIVER 4-WAY MAN D/SEAT ADJR(AH3)
AJ3 RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT INFLATABLE DRIVER SI INFL RST SYS(AJ3)
AR9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,MANUAL RECLINING(EUROPEAN STYLE) MAN RECL FRT BKT ST,DELUXE(AR9)
AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3)
A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE ELEC SI WDO(A31)
A90 LOCK,REAR COMPARTMENT LID,REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC RELEASE ELEC REL LID LK(A90)
BC8 ORNAMENTATION,INTERIOR,FRONT DOOR MAP POCKET RH AND LH DR MAP PKT(BC8)
B84 ORNAMENTATION,EXTERIOR,BODY SIDE MOLDING(USED WITH APPEARANCE PACKAGE Z12) BODY SI MLDG(B84)
CC1 ROOF,HATCH,REMOVABLE PANELS,GLASS HATCH RF(CC1)
C49 DEFOGGER,REAR WINDOW,ELECTRIC ELEC RR WDO DEFG(C49)
C60 AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60)
DC4 MIRROR,INSIDE,REARVIEW TILT,DUAL READING LAMP I/S DUAL READING LP RR VIEW MIR(DC4)
DE4 SUNSHADE,REMOVABLE HATCH ROOF HATCH RF S/S(DE4)
DG7 MIRROR,OUTSIDE,RH AND LH REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC(PAINTED)(USED WITH SE Z7M,STE Z7N,LE Z7K) O/S ELEC R/CON PAINTED MIR(DG7)
D3W GEAR-SPEEDO DRIVEN (25513044) (D3W)
D42 COVER,REAR COMPARTMENT SECURITY(SHADE) R/CMPT SECURITY SHADE(D42)
D8N SENSOR VEH SPD (10456088) (D8N)
D81 SPOILER,REAR,AERO WING RR AERO WING SPLR(D81)
E5Z ADAPTER - SPEEDO - DELETE
E9Z KEY - SPEEDO - DELETE
F41 SUSPENSION,FIRM RIDE HANDLING,FRONT AND REAR(USED W/TOURING PKG WF1) FIRM RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(F41)
GU2 AXLE,REAR,2.73 RATIO 2.73R(GU2)
G80 AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL(G80)
IPC TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IPC)
JG1 SHAFT,PROPELLER(ALUMINUM) AL PROP SHF(JG1)
J42 BRAKE SYSTEM,DRUM(ALUMINUM) AL BRK SYS(J42)
K34 CRUISE CONTROL,AUTOMATIC,ELECTRONIC CRCONT(K34)
K68 GENERATOR,105 AMPERE 105 AMP(K68)
LB9 ENGINE,5.0L(5.0F),V8 EFI CAR ONLY 5.0F(LB9)
MD8 TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC 4-SPEED(THM700R4/4L60) 4-SPD A/TRANS(MD8)
MX0 TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC,OVERDRIVE(MERCHANDISING OPTION)(MD8) A/TRANS PROVISIONS(MX0)
NA5 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FEDERAL EMIS(NA5)
NP5 STEERING WHEEL,SPORT,3-SPOKE,LEATHER WRAPPED(USED WITH PERFORMANCE PACKAGE Y56,SPORT PACKAGE WN2) LEATHER WRAPPED STRG WHL(NP5)
N64 WHEEL AND TIRE,SPACE SAVER SPARE(ALUMINUM) STOWAWAY SPARE(ALUM)(N64)
PW7 WHEEL,16X8,STYLED(ALUMINUM)(SUPERLIGHT) STYLED AL WHL(PW7)
QPE TIRE ALL- P215/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2 TIRE(QPE)
R6A CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 01
T93 LAMP,TAIL AND STOP(SPECIAL)(DELETES CHROME EDGING)(USED WITH INTERNATIONAL WJ9) SPECIAL TAIL & S/LP(T93)
T96 LAMP,FRONT FOG(USED WITH APPEARANCE PACKAGE WS4) FRT FOG LP(T96)

Jason E

^^That's what I thought! Thanks for the info JT! I forgot about Compnine and being able to run 91-92s through it.

I like that it has factory CD and a power antenna. Wish it had a power seat (loved the adjustability of it in my 86). If it was a 5 speed, I would've already given a deposit over the phone!

I've just always really liked the look of a black TA or GTA with PW7s...especially in charcoal. Its too bad 91-92 TA/GTAs couldn't be had with a 350 and T-tops...that would be the ultimate third gen Firebird in my opinion...

Van Nuys born

Yep, It doesn't matter how fast or slow they are... it's more about the parts that make them up and the era they came from. They have earned a right of passage, IMO.

I mean what could be Cooler than dual exhaust that doesn't stare you in the face and the sound of an American V8.... and the list goes on.

Jason E

Good points My wife was in her 04 GTP Comp G one night following me back from a car show. I tried outrunning her in the IROC...fun as hell, but on the straights she was crawling up my rear end Sure enough, looking at the numbers, my 0-60 of roughly 6.7 seconds is about .5 seconds slower than her Comp G

The one thing I will say about a 2.77 geared LB9 A4 like my 86...it might not be fast but in stock form it is SMOOTH....that car was the epitome of a great cruiser. Y99 ride quality is way > than WS6 ride quality.

I may have to see if this guy wants to trade for a 99 Wrangler

FormerL69

iTrader: (2)

Nice looking car. I scan CL daily and hope I don't find anything worth buying. My wife would kill me if I brought anything else home. I'm already out of garage space.

IMHO that car looks like a good deal to me.

Van Nuys born

I was checking out Craigslist in the midwest just for kicks... and I saw quite a few nice Z28's of all years.... The snow is melting. Saw a few real beaters too

chazman

iTrader: (4)

This is the winter which won't die this year......

2007xl50

Jason, that is a nice looking car and the 91/92 birds are really growing on me, looks like it would be a nice driver.

QUICKCHICKEN

iTrader: (12)

WS6 was standard GTA and FORMULA, optional on T/A.

JT

iTrader: (1)

Just to make it clear, I was speaking in the context of the 1991/1992 Trans Am as that was the basis of the discussion here given the vehicle was a 1991 Trans Am. Aside from that, WS6 was always standard on the 1987-1992 GTAs and Formulas.

Richboll

Great looking car. That's why I try to stay off of Craig's list and ebay especially... late at night.

Jason E

The only thing that threw me was the PW7 wheels and seeing what look like 245 tires on it. I remembered 215/60/16s being standard on 91-92 TAs, after I posted

When JT posted the SPID sheet, it confirmed my thoughts that this was originally a 215/60 equipped car.

okfoz

I want to think that...
All Firebird (BASE) got 15" Wheels
All Formula & GTA got WS6 therefore they got the 245/50R16
Trans Am's came with the 215/60R16 standard, and the 245/50R16 with WS6 option
I do not believe any Trans Am's came with 15" wheels from 1990-1992, (1991 & 1992 for sure)

John

StevenB L98/LS1

Beautiful looking car, id say just because it would be a nice cruiser it's worth the buy. But if your looking higher for options, this car is definitely a pass.