okfoz

Here is a rare one for someone looking for something I do not see many of:

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...2119/overview/
68,000 Miles
ONLY $5500... What a deal!

1G2FS23F5LL219964

Vehicle:

FIREBIRD 2 DR
Year:

1990
Build Date:

Unk.


Found 20,553 vehicles matching that year and model in our database.
RPO Description Matches
UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER)(USED WITH DELUXE SPORT PKG W32) GA(UB3) 20,553
UM6 RADIO,AM/FM STEREO,CASSETTE,ETR,INCLUDES CLOCK STEREO CASSETTE(UM6) 15,440
UQ1 RADIO,PROVISIONS FOR STEREO STEREO RDO PR0VISIONS(UQ1) 20,553
U62 SPEAKER SYSTEM,4,DUAL COAX FRONT,DUAL COAX PACKAGE SHELF 4 SPKR SYS(U62) 19,465
U75 ANTENNA,POWER(CHROME) PWR ANT(U75) 5,810
VAN Unknown 20,553
VK3 LICENSE PLATE,FRONT MOUNTING PACKAGE FRT LIC PLT MTG PKG(VK3) 16,647
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73) 19,698
WS6 PERFORMANCE PACKAGE,SPECIAL(MERCHANDISING OPTION) SPECIAL PERFORMANCE PKG(WS6) 6,764
W66 FORMULA OPTION(MERCHANDISING OPTION) FORMULA(W66) 4,834
1SC PACKAGE-OPTION 03 (1SC) 11,837
1SZ PACKAGE OPTION- (1SZ) 9,892
12P WHEEL COLOR,SILVER METALLIC (12P) 4,834
13L EXTERIOR COLOR,SECONDARY,SILVER METALLIC (13L) 1,371
23Q MOLDING COLOR,MEDIUM MAUI BLUE METALLIC (23Q) 1,134
23U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,MEDIUM MAUI BLUE METALLIC (23U) 1,178
6ZW Unknown 5,229
7ZW Unknown 5,229
78A STRIPE - ACCENT, TWO TONE, DARK CLARET/ANTELOPE (78A) 1,371
8NL Unknown 7,119
82C TRIM COMBINATION,CLOTH,MEDIUM DARK GRAY (82C) 16,383
82I INTERIOR TRIM,MEDIUM DARK GRAY (82I) 16,654
829 SEAT BELT COLOR - MED DK GRAY (829) 16,654
9NL Unknown 7,119
AAA Unknown 19,999
AH3 ADJUSTER,SEAT,4-WAY MANUAL,DRIVER 4-WAY MAN D/SEAT ADJR(AH3) 12,011
AJ3 RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT INFLATABLE DRIVER SI INFL RST SYS(AJ3) 20,553
AR9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,MANUAL RECLINING(EUROPEAN STYLE) MAN RECL FRT BKT ST,DELUXE(AR9) 19,106
AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3) 16,301
A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE(USED WITH SE Z7M) ELEC SI WDO(A31) 16,301
A90 LOCK,REAR COMPARTMENT LID,REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC RELEASE ELEC REL LID LK(A90) 13,571
BC8 ORNAMENTATION,INTERIOR,FRONT DOOR MAP POCKET RH AND LH DR MAP PKT(BC8) 16,301
B84 ORNAMENTATION,EXTERIOR,BODY SIDE MOLDING(USED WITH APPEARANCE PACKAGE Z12) BODY SI MLDG(B84) 20,269
CC1 ROOF,HATCH,REMOVABLE PANELS,GLASS HATCH RF(CC1) 11,423
C49 DEFOGGER,REAR WINDOW,ELECTRIC(USED WITH SPECIAL EDITION WA4) ELEC RR WDO DEFG(C49) 13,301
C60 AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60) 20,362
DC4 MIRROR,INSIDE,REARVIEW TILT,DUAL READING LAMP(USED WITH ASTRO ROOF CF5) I/S DUAL READING LP RR VIEW MIR(DC4) 13,570
DE4 SUNSHADE,REMOVABLE HATCH ROOF HATCH RF S/S(DE4) 11,423
DG7 MIRROR,OUTSIDE,RH AND LH REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC(PAINTED)(USED WITH SE Z7M,STE Z7N,LE Z7K) O/S ELEC R/CON PAINTED MIR(DG7) 7,084
D5S Unknown 486
D8G SENSOR (D8G) 1,093
D81 SPOILER,REAR,AERO WING RR AERO WING SPLR(D81) 7,615
D86 PAINT,TWO-TONE(DELUXE) DELUXE TWO-TONE PAINT(D86) 1,624
D98 STRIPE,BODY SIDE ACCENT AND DECK LID(USED WITH SPECIAL EDITION WA4) ACNT STRPE(D98) 1,624
E5Z ADAPTER - SPEEDO - DELETE 20,553
E9Z KEY - SPEEDO - DELETE 20,553
FE2 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,RIDE AND HANDLING(USED WITH PERFORMANCE PACKAGE WS6) RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(FE2) 6,764
GU6 AXLE,REAR,3.42 RATIO 3.42R(GU6) 486
G80 AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL(G80) 4,473
IPC TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IPC) 19,106
J65 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC 4-WHL DISC BRK(J65) 2,383
KC4 COOLING SYSTEM,ENGINE OIL(EXPORT-IRAQ) KC4(EXPORT IRAQ) 2,383
K34 CRUISE CONTROL,AUTOMATIC,ELECTRONIC(USED WITH SE Z7M) CRCONT(K34) 13,532
K68 GENERATOR,105 AMPERE(USED WITH SE Z7M) 105 AMP GEN(K68) 4,473
LB9 ENGINE,5.0L(5.0F),V8 EFI CAR ONLY 5.0F(LB9) 2,570
MK6 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 5-SPEED(BORG-WARNER) 5-SPD M/TRANS(MK6) 480
MM5 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 5-SPEED PROVISIONS(MERCHANDISING OPTION) 5-SPD M/TRANS PROVISIONS(MM5) 1,093
NA5 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS(USED WITH CALIF SEVILLE YP1) FEDERAL EMIS(NA5) 18,532
N10 EXHAUST SYSTEM-DUAL HORIZ DUAL/EXH(N10) 2,383
N36 STEERING WHEEL,SPORT-4 SPOKES SPORT STRG WHL(N36) 18,439
N64 WHEEL AND TIRE,SPACE SAVER SPARE(ALUMINUM) STOWAWAY SPARE(ALUM)(N64) 3,932
PE0 WHEEL,16X8,ALUMINUM,LIGHT WEIGHT,STYLED(USED WITH FORMULA W66) STYLED LGT WT AL WHL(PE0) 4,834
QLC TIRE,ALL P245/50ZR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HWY TIRE(QLC) 6,764
R6A CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 01 10,569
R9Z CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO.100 1,581

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

SLP Air box and borla tips/exhaust. Super nice deal

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Thanks John, less than 20 miles from me - I'm on it!

okfoz

If I lived closer (and I had a place to put it right now) I would pick it up, refurbish and then sell... It appears that the front fascia has been repainted, but the hood is original paint. Has the original spoiler, which is prone to cracks in the pictures... BUt for the price it is a heck of a deal IMHO.

okfoz

HEre is the key.
MK6 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 5-SPEED(BORG-WARNER) 5-SPD M/TRANS(MK6) 480

This was the total number of LB9/MM5 cars made...

The LH0 used the MD8 trans and the L03 used the M39 trans..

The V6 also used the 3.42 axle, but in 1990 there was only 6 of those made (not like anyone want's one)

ev305tpi

iTrader: (3)

Wow, good find!!

okfoz

Something that looks this nice, if it is as nice as it looks in the pictures, I would hate to go into the hands of a 16 year old that beat the crap out of it... BUt then again, it would make mine more valuable.

dmccain

iTrader: (2)

For that price I would definitely buy it if I were close. Then throw trans am ground effects on it, black pw7s, and a paint job to it and be a happy customer!

okfoz

And Slow it down? Basically taking a GTO and weigh it down with extras?

dmccain

iTrader: (2)

It aint that fast anyhow and the black bumper pads and turbo style wheels are not very attractive to me. But that's my opinion. Everyone has their own. If it was gona be for a drag car that's the only way I would leave it because I know its a bit lighter.

scottmoyer

And there you have the same concerns you do of a 16 year old destroying the car. Either way, the car is lost at that point.

It's nice to see one with the two tone paint. I prefer this look, but so many prefer the monotone color scheme without stripes. I wish I could grab this up!!

okfoz

I know the little black bumpers are a love it or hate it item... but if you take them off with photoshop, it really looks plain... The rear bumper does ok, but the front bumper looks goofy IMHO

dmccain

iTrader: (2)

Lots of folks love em. Yours are extremely nice as are many others ive seen. I actually really like the 91-92 Formulas but on those the Formula emblems on the doors don't look right to me. Regardless of what I prefer or don't though this 90 Formula is a great deal I wouldn't hesitate to buy it I love the color and the 5spd LB9.

okfoz

I am hoping Purely
PMD picks it up... He seems to really like the nice ones.

I want a Finders pay too... 5% works for me

StevenB L98/LS1

Wow nice find, i only wish i lived closer would love to store this in my garage for a weekend cruiser. That deal is almost to good to pass up.

eseibel67

Oh yes. The 3.42 axle with .73 fifth gear is something really nice with a TPI. At cruising speed, passing never requires a downshift, just a slight nudge of the gas pedal.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Just spoke to Joe, seeing it Saturday.

That's the first chance he has to show it, otherwise I'd be there now.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Things happen for a reason John.

Thanks!

okfoz

i am just hoping it goes to a nice home is all... shame to waste such an unusual car... In all honesty, I do not remember ever seeing another Maui Blue 1990 Formula LB9/MM5 W/T-tops...

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Has anyone successfully repaired one of those wrap around spoilers? What is the actual material? Is there a thread here somewhere that goes through the process? I've got to believe with today's materials we can save that one.

okfoz

Here are some things to look at from this car's RPO list

D5S Unknown 486 - I have no idea what it is, but I would bet it has to do with the rear axle... That is the exact same number of 3.42 axles. I am thinking it has to do with the gear set for the speedo.

D8G SENSOR (D8G) 1,093 - Something to do with the transmission. Either speedo sensor, might be the shift sensor.

I believe these are option groups... I just don't remember what they are right now...
R6A CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 01 10,569
R9Z CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO.100 1,581

okfoz

The problem with the rubber spoiler, is it was lined with steel.. If they would have used Aluminum or Stainless Steel it would have never happened.

What appears to happen is the rubber apparently is semi-porous, and eventually allows moisture inside. The steel (which apparently was never painted) begins to rust, and as the rust scales off it expands and then it starts to crack the rubber...

You can get a special epoxy for bumpers where you buy automotive paint, and use it to fill in the gaps, and make it look better, but it will still be lumpy to some degree... You could grind it down to make it better, but getting it perfect would be a challenge. Honestly you are better off just getting the fiberglass one from Hawks, and paint it... They will last forever... Unfortunately The fiberglass one's do not look as good as the OE one's in my opinion because the spears are too thick. But most people never realize it.

But you could get it to look pretty good if you took your time... It will just happen again.

I used the epoxy on my front bumper to fill in a crack and no one has ever noticed it...

I would think it would be like body filler, you might have to do it several times... epoxy the splits... grind it down, epoxy it again grind it down, Until it is where you want it. Definitely worth a shot

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

The rear spoiler is pretty much a endure type material like the front bumpers of the 70s birds and GTOs. Same repair procedure and materials.

I would do the fiberglass wing and make it correct looking

chazman

iTrader: (4)

Beautiful car and a screaming deal!!!!!

lonestar7

iTrader: (1)

Beautiful! Worth the asking price if it as advertised.

okfoz

Other than thickness, what is the difference in the material? It seems to be almost the same material as in our bumpers...

I do know that by the late 1970's many cars used the rubber bumper fillers that seem to be about the same material...

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

Its a foam rubber type of stuff.

kymmee

That is a nice looking car! Hope you get it PurelyPMD! Good to see this, bought my 89 350 with 65k miles a yr and a half ago in the same ballpark price wise. I always question "value" on these cars. Most on ebay are overpriced IMO. It is hard to find unmolested ones. Too bad the original radio is gone. My aero wing was replaced with the fiberglass one before purchase.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Found this in a Google search.

r9z - poms expedite-sold orders saf

Wish you were able to get this kind of production data for 1987 models - my IROC is optioned very much like this car. LB9/MM5/3.45

FinallyGotMyZ

Hoping it goes to a good home. Good luck, PurelyPMD.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

He pushed till next weekend, pretty ****ty here weather-wise.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Well patience & persistence finally paid off and I picked the car up this morning. Joe bought the car when he was 15 and has owned it for 17 years! This is a really pretty car and it's in amazing original condition - as clean underneath as it is on top. Has a few aftermarket parts on it that I will likely replace with original but nothing that really takes away from it's value. Needs some paint work, the spoiler repaired or replaced and some maintenance items done. Finally some Pontiac 3rd Gen iron in the barn.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

E-mail me your address John, I'll send you something.

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

Sooo cool, congrats !!!

chazman

iTrader: (4)

Cool car! Why did it take a year?

LiquidBlue

Nice grab PMD! That funky blue to boot! Even more rare!! Now we are Twinkies! (less the manual that is). Would you mind sharing a photo of your front air dam on that beast. Want to see if it is all black like this: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...ml#post6004793

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Yes, the air dam is all black - I didn't take a photo of it but I will.

Chaz, there are some things it needs, some modifications I want to reverse, some paint work and maintenance etc and I had a price in my head on what I would pay so I wouldn't be under water on it when I got done. In the fall we touched base and were still $500 apart and since I didn't have the room or the time to work on it, I didn't break. Last week he contacted me and said he'd take my number - deal got done this morning.

Unloading it off the trailer, it's amazingly clean underneath - you would never believe it was a CT car it's whole life! Right & left rear frame rails with their body color overspray on them, underside looking forward on the left & right then the underside of the radiator support. Could use a power washing but very nice otherwise.

Some things are leaking, bushings need to be replaced, non factory parts replaced - I'll get it sorted out.

DynoDave43

iTrader: (11)

Looks fantastic. Congratulations!

LiquidBlue

Very nice PMD! I'm wondering if this particular color Pontiac put on the textured all black air dam's, while other colors received a different type. Or, maybe they just went to all black in 1990..... I've noticed on some of the two-tone cars that half of the air dam is painted.

chazman

iTrader: (4)

Looks fantastic!

B4C5.7

iTrader: (2)

Christmas Day today! Nice Chris.

live4formula

Nice Find PurelyPMD! Looks very clean

eseibel67

Wow it looks amazing underneath, and that's what really counts. TPI, 5 speed with T top is an excellent configuration.


Minor note - tighten the clamp on the lower rad hose at the water pump.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

Yeah, thanks - didn't see that when I was under it, but saw it in the picture. Need to check if it's the right hose too.

okfoz

For some reason I thought the lower air dam was the following... I will have to pay more attention, but here we go...

85-88, lower air dam painted with (2-tone) stripe, and unpainted with monochrome.
89-90, All Lower Air Dam were unpainted, I might be wrong, but for some reason that is what I thought...

The Parts catalog is not clear...

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

I'm not sure when the painted deflector was stopped 88-89 or was it? I was under the assumption that all 2 tone cars had the 3 upper air dam/deflector parts painted lower body color but I haven't seen enough 88-89-90 2 tone cars.

I have a NOS upper center deflector part for sale for the painted cars.

Jason E

Holy crap...it took me a minute to realize it took a solid year to buy it! Good find!

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

It only took a day to buy it, but it took a year to sell it.

PurelyPMD

iTrader: (3)

I've been playing with Compnine today and got some interesting combinations for 1990.

Formula LB9 MK6 - 480
in Maui Blue 23U - 26
in Two Tone 78A - 11 & all of them had the t-tops.

I guess blue wasn't popular that year.

B4C5.7

iTrader: (2)

One of 11, wow. Compnine is a great tool. I know they do not have every VIN but does prove out that Maui blue MK6 Formulas qualify as rare in the right use of the word.