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Old 06-08-2009, 08:01 AM
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Hi All,
It has begun! I just picked up my car! It is a 1992 3.1L camaro with 5 speed. My dad owned it from day 1. 177,000 miles later and still on the same clutch! That is how much he babied the thing! The body is in good shape but obviously the motor is going to have to go along with the tranny! So I will be doing the Lt1 swap! I am getting the engine and tranny (T56) and ecm, wiring harness, etc. for 2600$. Then I plan on getting forged pistons, crank (to support turbo/nitro) , new rear end, and suspension from Spohn/Hawks, build the engine up outside the car then put it in and wire it up! I have 2 people helping me with this project so hope to finish within a month after I pick up the motor. Im laid off so lots of time!
I will post pics of the progress so everyone can see the transformation. With the help of this forum and a little bit o luck, hope to finish everything smoothly with little headache.
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:49 AM
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for that type of cash i'd really really push for a ls based motor and T56
Old 06-08-2009, 10:18 AM
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Ive been really considering that option, but could never find a good deal on the LS with tranny combo for a good price. Most were 4500$. So i figured get 1 combo for 2600$ for everything including pedals, shifter, ecm, harness, etc. and use the xtra 1500$ i saved to get the crank, pistons, etc.
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you should really consider the ls1 t56 setup. and $4500 is a bit pricy. i sell lots of pullouts, and mine usually sell anywhere from $3200-$3800+shipping depending on mileage. $4500 is pretty high. if you are interested in buying a setup, hit me up, i will give you an idea of what i can get you one for. I would highly recomend it over the lt1, just my $.02 though.
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Another vote for the LS1 it is more work and a bit pricier but well worth it I think you'll be happier all said and done.
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I paid $2500 for a wreck 98 Z28 and parted it out

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Is there something wrong with the Lt1? I know the Ls1 is a stong engine, and I have nothing but respect for it, but I am also just looking for the 400-450 hp range. I drive the car everyday and am just looking for a strong engine to have a little fun with and is reliable.
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here is a link to what I have bid on:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tab%3DWatching

I am open to comments...........
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opti's are known for failing on the lt1 and it is old technology. I don't see a benefit to them when the ls based motors are dropping in price and most 5.3L iron motors will put out more power than a lt1 engine. Just a FYI for that price you could almost buy an entire lt1 car part out what you want and keep the rest. A dependable 5.3L/5.7L, etc ls based swap isn't too pricey, it's the T56 that drives the cost up considerably.
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
opti's are known for failing on the lt1 and it is old technology. I don't see a benefit to them when the ls based motors are dropping in price and most 5.3L iron motors will put out more power than a lt1 engine. Just a FYI for that price you could almost buy an entire lt1 car part out what you want and keep the rest. A dependable 5.3L/5.7L, etc ls based swap isn't too pricey, it's the T56 that drives the cost up considerably.
I second that, ive seen mint running LS1 4th gens for sub $4k. Could pull the motor/trans and pawn the roller off for $1-1.5K. Easy $3k max, and you have everything you need. Wiring, exhaust, intake, cooling etc etc etc.
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i've bought lt1 6 speed rollers for less that your paying for that whole setup.
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Originally Posted by ScorchedPaint
Is there something wrong with the Lt1? I know the Ls1 is a stong engine, and I have nothing but respect for it, but I am also just looking for the 400-450 hp range. I drive the car everyday and am just looking for a strong engine to have a little fun with and is reliable.
Then the LT1 will do you fine. But that is a little on the high side like said I have seen rollers for that. And for the opti as long it is 95 up (vented) they seem to be a little better.
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ok, i have taken everyones advice and canceled the ebay auction. I will go with the ls1 if that is what is and easy swap and reliable setup.
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ok, i have taken everyones advice and canceled the ebay auction. I will go with the ls1 if that is what is and easy swap and reliable setup.
Both engines are reliable, both engines are a fairly straight forward swap.

LS1's tend to be more expensive, as their radically different from the gen 1. Meaning parts like headers, and intakes dont fit.

However, LS1's take advantage of new age computer modelling techniques, and if they were a less then spectacular motor, they wouldnt be powering all vette's from 97+, F-bodys from 98+ and trucks from 99+.

They might be a little more expensive to swap, but the return in fuel milage, ease of building power, smooth cruising etc, will make it more then worth it.

Ill say i dont regret a penny i put into my car. I might regret my cam choise, but ill know more once i get miles on the car
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LOL the same seller has a LS1 w/auto for $1799 Just take a look at the LS sticky at the top.
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