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17 year old's first build thread

so i guess this is my build thread..im already close to being half done.. but some things to keep in mind:
I started when I was 16, I''ll be 17 on the first
Tight budget, but since me and my father are "bonding and learning together" he usually fronts the cash
This is my first build, so please I welcome any criticism and helpful hints you guys give me. I know its not the best block to start out with but it's a start, and maybe one day I will build a stroker.
I started knowing absolutely nothing, so it is also a learning experience.
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the "canvas" of this build is a 1992 Camaro RS 'vert. when I bought it it had 106,000 miles on it, with zero rust. meaning the exhaust pipes were clean. Car came with an all original 305 TBI and 700R4 trans, both very strong runners.
First thing I did was hack off the exhaust pipe and bolt on a Hooker aerochamber cat back. then storage, and during the winter was when this build started. after winter came rim paint, headlight buckets, and misc. other things such as an open element.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6&l=7309e870a0

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the day after I got let out of school..
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so we picked up a budget GM crate engine and it came in the mail a few days later!
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took the intake manifold off and it sat in the rain for 2 months..
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^Sorry about your accident...Are you going to fix her?
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my first harbor freight engine lift
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my very first engine extraction with my best friend.. wer both 16 at the time and we had no idea what wer doing
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so i started ordering parts..
Official part list to date:
Comp Nitrous hydraulic retrofit roller cam and lifters
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new comp cam compared to the stock flat tappet (with half the lift)
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lifters coated with assembly lube and slid into place

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Aluminum heads came in the mail.
i went with the GM ZZ4 heads because they were butt cheap for aluminum. the small combustion chamber squeezes the block to a 10.1:1 CR from a miserable 8.1:1. they went to the machine shop to get that big valve spring installed. maybe someday il port and polish but i have no idea how to

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scraping off old gasket for new one.. i got one head back from the machine shop they still have the other one because of a problem with the retainer.

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and heads are on!!! with the rocker arms n pushrods!!

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thats all for tonight, sorry about the facebook links, the site wont let me upload pictures..
i doubt anyone will look at this but i just wanted to document it (:
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Originally Posted by CadeFirebird
^Sorry about your accident...Are you going to fix her?
I was gonna part it, then scrap it, but i found the core support and a shop willing to do all the work. shes worth saving, its in *almost* perfect condition
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I can't get any of the pics to work. :/
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Pics worked for me though it would be nice if you hosted them on photobucket or something and just insert the images in the post.
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Wonderful, pictures worked good for me. This is how I learned also many years ago. You have to jump in with both feet. Will be waiting for updates John. EGP
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the pictures here wont upload, maybe because im using a mac? il start moving to photobucket but until then i have alot of updating..
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doing the cam timing:
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Oil system:
Moroso high capacity racing pump and pickup
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Also got Fel-Pro and ARP bolts for it.
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Timing cover, put the seal in with some RTV
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used some ARP bolts
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and torqued it down
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it looks amazing, i was never a big fan of chrome but my dad loves it so il try it out i guess haha
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Windage tray: this is annoying, my deep sockets dont go deep enough, does anyone know how to torque them? iv heard everything from 40 ft lbs to 70 ft lbs, its a 4 bolt main
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In my rebuilds I always braze the pickup tube onto the oil pump. I see the old pump was done this way, I would do it with the new one also.
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how would I go about doing that?
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If you don't have the tools your local machine shop should be able to help you out.
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Looking good cant wait for more updates.....
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ran into a problem...or two..
was tightening the bolt on the engine stand and it snapped clean off in the bellhousing
the oil pan gasket was way to thick so i made my own with RTV.. probably going to have to replace it anyways...
any ideas on the bolt?
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ran into a problem...or two..
was tightening the bolt on the engine stand and it snapped clean off in the bellhousing
the oil pan gasket was way to thick so i made my own with RTV.. probably going to have to replace it anyways...
any ideas on the bolt?
They make "bolt extractors" for this, or so I'm told lol. I've never used one but I broke one off in the block for my timing cover so I'll be figuring it out soon.

And if the engine is out, I wouldn't wait to replace the oil pan gasket after it's in the car. It's no fun.
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i got the bolt out, and im probably just going to get another gasket. i dont really know where to go from here.
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i dont really know where to go from here.
In times like that, I just clean something. lol

But what's the hold up? I'm stalled as well but it's it's a money issue.
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good progress. what did you hit in your car?
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good progress. what did you hit in your car?
i hit a 99 GMC sonoma, i went underneath it haha, sad day.

im stuck because of money/i dont know what comes next. i mean i have a huge list but i dont know..
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i hit a 99 GMC sonoma, i went underneath it haha, sad day.

im stuck because of money/i dont know what comes next. i mean i have a huge list but i dont know..
buddy, try looking at my build thread, that's a list!! I'm 17 adwell
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UPDATE:
Body: the cars going to the body shop in the next week or two, the guy is really hard to get ahold of but he does good work. They are gonna weld in the subframe and then send it back.

Engine: Ran out of money for the supercharger, so I think (and please correct me if I'm wrong) I am gonna get the Holley supercharger carb (its a 4 bbl 850CFM double pumper) and a budget intake manifold so I can get the engine running. Can I use the same distributor, and all that stuff on the blower? Will the 850 be too much for the engine and CR without the forced induction? the cam I'm using is a Nitroux NX276HR with a .502 lift (i dont know the numbers off the top of my head)? or is it worth it to save for a long time for the blower?

If someone could help me with the acccesories too, thatd be wonderful. I dont know what to do because the stock brackets off the 305 dont fit, and I need a serpentine setup because of the blower. any help would be great, pictures coming tonight!!!!
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