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Was just going through MVA's regs to find out if I could get a street rod or historic tags and what the complete specs were and notice that it says if the car is no longer being manufactured it's 20-24 years, not the full 20 years -- wouldn't that make you think that right now the Camaro is not being manufactured and therefore we qualify as historic at 20 years? I'm going to fill out the forms and send them documentation that states that the Camaro is halting production (shouldn't be hard to find on the web, right?) and see what happens. I'll keep everyone posted.
Here's what the MVA site says specifically:
Does my vehicle qualify for historic or street rod plates?
Historic:
The vehicle is 25 calendar years or older and has not been substantially altered, remodeled, or remanufactured from its original construction, or
The vehicle is between 20 and 24 model years old and is a model, of which the manufacturer produced 1,000 or fewer models for that year, as verified by the manufacturer (supporting documentation required). The vehicle has not been substantially altered, remodeled or remanufactured from its original construction, or
The vehicle is between 20 and 24 model years old and is a make that the manufacturer no longer produces, as verified by the manufacturer (supporting documentation required). It is not substantially altered, remodeled or remanufactured from it original construction.
Street Rod:
The vehicle is 25 years old or older and has been substantially altered from the manufacturer's original design.
Vehicles classified as historic or street rod certify the vehicle will be maintained for use in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses. The vehicle owner further certifies the vehicle will not be used for general daily transportation or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. You will need to fill out the Application for Historic or Street Rod Registration (form # VR-096) and supply all necessary documentation.
i tired everything to get one or the other and no luck. I cant wait till i can get historic or street rod tags. I think that the only way you can get tags at 20 yrs old is that if they only made a limited number.
It depends on what kind of person you get at the counter at the MVA. I looked into it a year or so ago, and got different answers from people who worked there. It all depends on how they interpret the rule, and how knowledgeable they are about models of cars. Good luck, I gave up because we moved out of MD, and now I have to wait till next year since my car turns 25 as of January 1.
I picked up historic tags at the counter in Bel Air Md. You just have tell them thats what you want and fill out an extra form. No more nagging emission tests!
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I researched this in-depth, and the only thing you bypass is the MD state inspection. IMHO it's not worth it if you drive the car frequently. I've stuck with regular tags, regular insurance rates and going through emissions.
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So far the hard part is getting the letter from GM stating that the car is no longer manufactured. They emailed me a contact name and I've left a message, but have not received any contact back from them. I'm going to call back tomorrow and try a bit more. My car was manufactured in July 1986, so that should mean my 1987 qualifies in July.
Forge the letter. Like they're gonna call GM to double check it or something.
If they knew anything about cars, the call wouldn't be required, and since they don't, they're not going to waste the time for a phone call. Tell them to call a local dealer and ask to buy a new one!!
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ok, so which one is it? would we be exempt form emissions or not. i originally thought it only counted for cars that were produced when emissions were not necessary. and i think since most historic cars are from that era, people make the common assumption that any historic car is exempt from emissions, and i dont think this is the case. i think the cut off year was 1976.
***Treadmill Test (IM240)
1984 to 1995 model year vehicles weighing 8,500 pounds or less.
Your vehicle will be driven on a treadmill while the exhaust is collected and analyzed. The treadmill test is simple and safe, and usually takes less than four minutes to complete. The vehicle’s emissions are measured under a range of operating conditions including acceleration, deceleration, cruising and idle.
***Idle Test
1977 to 1983 model year vehicles and on trucks weighing 8,501 to 26,000 pounds regardless of model year.
Your vehicle’s emissions will be analyzed while the engine is at idle. The idle test is more appropriate for older cars because of their vehicle design.
***How do I register a vehicle as an historic vehicle?
To be registered as an historic vehicle (class L), your vehicle must not have been substantially altered, remodeled or remanufactured, and must be:
25 model years old or older; or
20 to 24 model years old, and a model of which the manufacturer produced 1,000 or fewer vehicles during the model year, or is a make that the manufacturer no longer produces.
A vehicle registered as an historic vehicle cannot be used for general daily transportation, or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. It can only be used in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses.
You can apply to register your vehicle as an historic vehicle in person at any of the MVA’s full service branch offices. You also can mail the required documents to the MVA’s Mail in Registration Unit in the Glen Burnie office, or go to an MVA licensed tag and title service where they will assist you in applying. Licensed tag and title services will charge a fee for this service.
The registration application documents include:
Application form – When your vehicle has a Maryland title and you are registering and titling it at the same time, the title can be used as the application form for both transactions. If the vehicle’s title was issued by another state, use the Application for Certificate of Title to apply. If you have already titled the vehicle in Maryland and now want to register it, you will need to complete the Application for New Plates/Stickers & Transfer of Plates or Non-Title Trailers.
Application for Historic or Street Rod Registration.
Under certain circumstances, additional information and/or forms may be required:
@@@Please show me where "specialty tags" = emissions exemption @@@
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Maryland offers special historic license plates—current tags that identify a car as a historic vehicle. Qualifying vehicles must be at least 25 years old or older (there are certain exceptions for vehicles 20 to 24 years old) and must not be "substantially altered, remodeled or remanufactured from its original construction." Substantially modified vehicles can be registered as "Street Rods." Historic tags cost $27 for two years.
The application process for historic tags is the same as for standard plates, with the important exception that the car need not pass a safety inspection. In exchange for this break, you agree to drive the car only for exhibits, car shows, parades, club activities and other occasional uses. Using a car tagged with historic plates as a daily driver could result in a ticket if an officer notices the regular use pattern. The rules and regulations governing use of historic plates, however, are a bit vague. Unlike many states, Maryland places no specific annual mileage limits on cars with historic tags.
Maryland also allows registration of vintage plates. First, you get historic plates—this is a requirement—and then pay $13.50 more to have the vintage tags added to the historic plate registration. Restrictions on use of vintage plates are the same as those for historic plates, and vintage tags must be correct for the car's model year.
doesnt mention the emissions rules though. it says basically, in return for not having to pass safety, you have to only drive it under the circumstances. hm...
If you search in the page for 13-936, you'll find at letter (h) the following:
(h) Exemption from inspection requirements. -- A vehicle registered under this section is exempt from any statute that requires periodic vehicle inspections or that requires the use and inspection of emission control.
Emissions inspection is a periodic vehicle inspection having to do with emissions, so looks to me like an exemption.
is it 20 years from the build date? model year? i gotta get historics for my 86 as soon as i get a notice for emissions or need to renew my tags. any extra for custom plates?
So far the hard part is getting the letter from GM stating that the car is no longer manufactured. They emailed me a contact name and I've left a message, but have not received any contact back from them. I'm going to call back tomorrow and try a bit more. My car was manufactured in July 1986, so that should mean my 1987 qualifies in July.
just tell them to try to buy a 2004 camaro...thatll teach em the hard way=)
A nice little emissions loophole for those that don't already know about it. If your car sits low enough, it can't physically get onto the treadmill. Most people that work at the emissions testing station don't care enough to find out if your car is actually low enough or not and will just waive you for two years. My buddy has a lowered '96 Ranger (OBD2, they were supposed to just plug his truck up through the diagnostics) and they still gave him a waiver. Just my two cents.
so then my 01 z28 wont be able to get street rod tags i was told since i have a 10 pt roll cage that it wont pass state inspection is that true or can someone help me out to see how i ca get it registered..
talk about bringing a post back from the dead.
You can only get street rod tags when the car is 20 years old.
I don't know the rules on roll cages, I got a 8 point through an inspection a few years back with out a question.
Where in MD are you located?
damm well i guess i will either just have to get it redone in Ga or hope that my 10 point will get threw the inspection...Im in edgewood, md so if ya know someone there to help out let me know...
thanks
Drove mine everyday for two weeks over the summer, never an issue.
2 weeks? Has anyone driven thiers for an extended amount of time? I am thinking of doing these tags for my 91 when I can (next year if they go by production year?). Its my only car so would be a everyday driver.
To be registered as a street rod (class N), your vehicle must:
be 25 model years old or older; and
have been substantially altered from the manufacturer’s original design.
A vehicle registered as a street rod cannot be used for general daily transportation, or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. It can only be used in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses.
You can apply to register your vehicle as a street rod in person at any of the MVA’s full service branch offices. You also can mail the required documents to the MVA’s Mail in Registration Unit in the Glen Burnie office, or go to an MVA licensed tag and title service where they will assist you in applying. Licensed tag and title services will charge a fee for this service.
The registration application documents include:
Application form – When your vehicle has a Maryland title and you are registering and titling it at the same time, the title can be used as the application form for both transactions. If the vehicle’s title was issued by another state, use the Application for Certificate of Title to apply. If you have already titled the vehicle in Maryland and now want to register it, you will need to complete the Application for New Plates/Stickers & Transfer of Plates or Non-Title Trailers.
Application for Historic or Street Rod Registration.
Under certain circumstances, additional information and/or forms may be required:
Application for the Use of Vintage Registration Plates – If you possess vintage (old) license plates that are dated the same year as your vehicle’s model year, you may apply to display these vintage license plates on the vehicle, in place of the street rod tags that are usually displayed. However, the street rod tags will still be issued and must be carried in the vehicle at all times. There is a one-time fee for the use of vintage tags.
Specialty license plate application form – Street rods are also eligible to display personalized message (vanity) plates. If you choose to request these plates, see Registration – Specialty License Plates for details.
Note: A Maryland Safety Inspection Certificate is not required to register this vehicle.
How do I register a vehicle as an historic vehicle?
To be registered as a historic vehicle (class L), your vehicle must be 20 model years old or older and must not have been substantially altered, remodeled or remanufactured.
A historic registered vehicle cannot be used for general daily transportation, or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. It can only be used in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses.
If your historic vehicle is 60 years old or older, you may obtain a permanent, non-transferable registration for a one-time fee.
You can apply to register your vehicle as a historic vehicle in person at any of the MVA’s full service branch offices. You also can mail the required documents to the MVA’s Mail in Registration Unit in the Glen Burnie office, or go to an MVA licensed tag and title service where they will assist you in applying. Licensed tag and title services will charge a fee for this service.
The registration application documents include:
Application form – When your vehicle has a Maryland title and you are registering and titling it at the same time, the title can be used as the application form for both transactions. If the vehicle’s title was issued by another state, use the Application for Certificate of Title to apply. If you have already titled the vehicle in Maryland and now want to register it, you will need to complete the Application for New Plates/Stickers & Transfer of Plates or Non-Title Trailers.
Application for Historic or Street Rod Registration.
Under certain circumstances, additional information and/or forms may be required:
Application for the Use of Vintage Registration Plates – If you possess vintage (old) license plates that are dated the same year as your vehicle’s model year, you may apply to display these vintage license plates on the vehicle, in place of the historic tags that are usually displayed. However, the historic tags will still be issued and must be carried in the vehicle at all times. There is a one-time fee for the use of vintage tags.
Specialty license plate application form – Historic vehicles are also eligible to display personalized message (vanity) plates. If you choose to request these plates, see Registration – Specialty License Plates for details. Historic vehicles 60 years or older, with permanent registration, do not qualify for special registration plates.
Note: A Maryland Safety Inspection Certificate is not required to register this vehicle.
edit: yeah, this info is in the first post & halfway through the thread, but peeps keep missing it.
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Last edited by Project: 85 2.8 bird; 10-20-2009 at 12:00 AM.
Sorry to dredge up a REALLY old topic, but I have a little bit of helpful, and hopefully relieving info for everyone.
I had a 1987 Porsche 928 s4 for upwards of 5 years. It was my daily driver every day for work(which was a 35 mile drive which passed the police barracks) , and, even though I was pulled over quite a bit for speeding , I never ever got cited for driving a historic car on a daily basis. Its also not like this is your everyday common car either. When I passed, they definitely looked, but I just don't think they look for that kind of stuff.
Hope that clears a bit of the tension related to getting historic tags. Im actually getting an 88 Jeep comanche, and guess what? Im putting historics on it.
and going through emissions. 
, I never ever got cited for driving a historic car on a daily basis. Its also not like this is your everyday common car either. When I passed, they definitely looked, but I just don't think they look for that kind of stuff.
