BurnForD17

Ok this is my situation,
I have a stock 1992 RS camaro with a 305 with the most major mod being a flowmasters exhaust, i just wanted some opionins and suggestions. Would it be worth it to rebuild the engine and just keep the 305 block or should i just buy a zz4(the only prob. is that i dont have 4 grand). Anyway i would like some suggestions on how to increase my HP. thanks

pgriffith

ZZ4 is way expensive. But the stock 305 LO3 is weak. I have a 89 camaro with the same engine. I had mine rebuilt. But I would recemend the GM 350 LO5 motor. ITs good for about 285 HP and cost lots less than the ZZ4. So you get good power for about $1,500 bucks. Thats what i plan on doing in my '89

BurnForD17

ok,so your basically in the same boat as me, i was bascially thinking about stripping the whole engine down to the block, changing the trans to manual, getting new crank shaft,cam,heads,cylinders,pistons, all performance parts, i think that would atleast give me 300+ HP

BurnForD17

and aslo i was thinking about ripping out the computer adding headers and some other performance parts, what do you think?

Da Freaky 1

I think rebuilding the 305 is a fine idea, if finances don't permit the purchase of a bigger/better crate motor I recently rebuilt a 305 H.O. motor for my '82 Firebird. The car was originally a 4 banger so I gutted it and started from scratch. If you know a good machine shop where you can get the bulk of the "important" work done you can probably do your 305 for less than $1000 (I bought a new crank, intake, carb, headders, gasket kit and distributor than did all the assembly work myself and didn't come near $700. All my machine work was done before I got the motor.). Hell the whole car cost me less than $2000 from start to finish (and when I say gutted the car and started from scratch I mean GUTTED the car! My wife was irate with me for having a hulk of a car on jack-stands in front of my house for 4 months!), that includes the initial purchase, so go where your heart leads you, you might be surprised.

Done properly a 305 can generate near 400 streetable HP without worry.

Enjoy the ride, God only knows what's around the next corner.

[This message has been edited by Da Freaky 1 (edited April 19, 2001).]

firebird305

Check the archives for this board,There should be a 325 horse build up for a 305 on there,As well as a 343horse build up (wysiwyg://12http://www.angelfire.com/nb/thirdgen/343hp305.html)And also a 400 horse build up (www.angelfire.com/nb/thirdgen/400hp305.htm)I wanted to build up a bigger engine too,But i have other things i have to put money towards besides my car,So i kept my 305,And when they are built up they can make pretty good power.

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82 firebird with 305H.O.,Block bored .30 over,Keith black hyperutectic flat top pistons for 10 to 1 compression,Turned crank,Magnafluxed connecting rods,Melling H.V. oil pump,and double roller timeing chain,Ported and shaved heads w/3angle valve job,Z-28springs,Summit push rods and comp cams magnum roller rockers,Ported Edelbrock performer r.p.m.intake,Carter 625 afbcarb,Accell spark plugs,wires,and H.E.I.super coil,Heavy duty cap and rotor,Clevite performance cam with 450-460 inches of lift,Comp cams lifters,700r-4 tranny rebuilt with trans-go rebuild kit,corvette servo,New torQue converter,Flowtech headers,Flowmaster muffler,3.73limited slip rear end,Energy suspension bushings from front to rear,Energy suspension tranny mount,New center link,ball joints,trans-am steering box,ASP power pully.

dtpmike

I am in the same boat. What I woudl do is upgrade everythign but the motor and when you save up money get a new motor. Get new exhasut, new gears, beef up the tranny, suspension....

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89 camaro 305 tbi, flomaster 3 chamber cat back, gutted cat, Edlebrock open element, and a 160 degree T-stat. 2 kicker comp 12"'s, polk for the rest. Phoenix gold xs2300 to subs, kicker impulse 404XI to 4 speakers, pioneer DEH- P7000R head unit, and finally a 12 disc changer. Full leather interior from [URL=http://www.MrMikes.com[/URL](its nice)

TES Headers in the mail, and about to order a stage 2 fastchip.

vortech305

i had the same problem except i had the 3.1 6cyl. I converted to a 305 TPI w/ 5 speed, 305 motor has somewhere in the 300 hp level and i've spent about 4,500 on my mods, i know it sounds crazy,but it was due to having friends at the right place at the right time.

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.

Ben_Jamin

No one gives the 305 credit, and when you race mustangs, and beat them they come up with "It's only a 302" woulnd't it be great to say that you have a 5.0 in your chevy and just beat them. You can buy a stroker kit from powerhouse, it converts your 305 into a 335 for under 600 dollars. just my 2 cents

BurnForD17

I also have another question, what is the point of a Megashifter? is it like a stick, and what exactly is the difference between slap stick and the megashifter?

89Birddy

People always talk bad about 305's. . .which I think is a load of crap, because a nicely built 305 with a few mods and a new rear end can run its self right down into the 13's. Don't get me wrong, after all the money you spend on it, you could have possibly had a 350 in the 12's, but I think it would be pretty funny to see the look on some guys face when you tell him you just ran the same E.T as he did with his 350, only with a 305. . .as far as a ZZ goes. . .whew they are mean mean motors, infact a friend of mine just had one put in his I-ROC, with a little head work, a new cam, and computer (plus TP), its getting real quick. . .so hey, if you've got 5Grand I say flop it all and get the ZZ, but if not, build up that 305 man!

vortech305

I did just that

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.

Chvywolf

Burn,

The B&M Megashifter for the third gen's is not like a manual shifter. It is desined to not allow you to go into revers or any other gears on accident. When put into Overdrive, the shifter goes into ratchet mode. By pushing forward on the T handel, it will go into neutral, buy pulling backward, it will go into the next lower gear and thats all untill you let go and pull backwards again. Hense the ratchet action. I use it to hold out my shifts without having to worry about accidently going to far, like into neutral. I like it, and it's looks cool. My .02 cents. Laters

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"Oh yeah, well i'm taller"

89 RS Conv 305 700R4
85HO heads
Edelbrock intake
Holley 600
Hedman Hedders and Y pipe
Flowmaster
B&M MegaShifter

BurnForD17

Chevwolf,

Do you think you can give me an example of when the rachet action would some in handy, i still dont really get it

Mark A Shields

I can give you a perfect example of when that shifter can come in handy. One day I was passing a truck on a 2 lane road and as I shifted from Drive to OD ( for some reason my car is weird like that, shifts better going from D to OD) anyway, while I was shifting I pushed too hard and went right into Neutral at WOT. The result I collapsed some lifters. Now the B&M Shifter has a lock out that doesn't allow you to mistakenly shift into Reverse or N.

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'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
UNDERDRIVE PULLEY
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
2:73 GEARS

FiReBReTHa

wha wha? stroker kit, what is, how good, and TBi application?
need power, losing.
to fords.
cant sleep
fords will eat me
cant sleep for----


HELP

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