Tas

what about getting a GP on their turbo manifolds Just an idea.

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, 700R4, P.A.W. 14x3 open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips, Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248)
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Guido

There may be manifolds but will they fit?

Big questions.

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Tas

ya. LT1 ports are D ports. Vortecs are .1" higher if at all.

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, 700R4, P.A.W. 14x3 open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips, Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248)
Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options

82resto

But, alas, who would be willing to fork up the money to purchase those manifolds and actually test them on one of our cars?

Jon

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89 GTA
Beautiful Gunmetal gray, LB9 305 and T5 tranny. Only 60,000 miles!
Dual cats, 3"flomaster
Accel 300+ Ignition, wires, cap, coil, etc
Airfoil
KN Airfilter
Removed Screens on MAF
SLP 1 3/4 headers
No Smog/AIR system
14.7@93 (I know i should be running faster...)

91 Ford Thunderbird. My wonderful winter beater.

Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

Ok someone email them and see if the T60, T72 and/or T76's will bolt up to the turbo tech vortec truck header they make, the vortec port difference is on the intake side, if the T72 will bolt up i'll buy one when my insurance money gets here and post the results.

82resto

What's the company's web address that makes these? I'll email them, or give them a call if someone posts it.

Jon

Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

www.turbotechnologyinc.com , ask about the vortec truck header, price, and if a T72 turbo or other similar models will fit, sorry dont feel like waiting for their response again.

82resto

Ok, i just emailed them. If I don't get a response by mid next week, I'm going to give them a call, and I'll post it here.

Later guys
Jon

Guido

I already thought of this about a year ago. I called and talked to George and traded thoughts with him. He said it might work but its going to be tight with a cross over tube and who knows about hood clearance? Strut tower clearance?

The T76 will bolt up to it.

Id say give it a shot but the manifold is around $700. You may have to have the crossover inlet tube on the manifold cut and rewelded in a different position but a lot of the work would be done for you.

82resto

That price isn't bad....
I don't see why it wouldn't clear the hood, by the pic on their web site, it's not exactly a long tube set up. Damn, the tubes are so short, it looks like those darn log-manifolds that came with the motor.

Well, I say someone should give it a shot.

Jon

Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

Well still waiting on ins. co. but as soon as possible i'll order it and see what its gonna take, I say dont count on it with a/c, i've already got the a/c delete stuff for mine, hope it works

82resto

Oh yeah, AC is long gone here, too....

But I have the delete bracket, and I have a feeling it'll get in the way of the turbo..

Jon

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89 GTA
Beautiful Gunmetal gray, LB9 305 and T5 tranny. Only 60,000 miles!
Dual cats, 3"flomaster
Accel 300+ Ignition, wires, cap, coil, etc
Airfoil
KN Airfilter
Removed Screens on MAF
SLP 1 3/4 headers
No Smog/AIR system
14.7@93 (I know i should be running faster...)

91 Ford Thunderbird. My wonderful winter beater.

Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

Heh im going to be buying the march brackets for my LT1 since the alternator is about where an L98 a/c delete bracket, i was actually referring to the firewall box.

82resto

Oh, shiOt! You can buy a delete thing for the firewall? I still have all my stuff there, sans compressor/lines. I was just going to rip the housing off eventually, and just rivet a piece of black steel there. Where would I find a delete package?

Jon

BTW, that serpentine setup would be good...

Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

I found mine in a local u pull it junkyard for a whopping $40 bux, that included the small heater box to replace that huge thing on the firewall, the inner dash vents with the control to it, thats all you need, sometimes www.thirdgenresource.com has them, you may want to check out march for a setup that will get the accessories off the high pass. side if you're serious about this as i am, the setup for my LT1 is gonna be about $600, better all be worth it when im done, oh well gotta finish dynamatting the entire inside of the car soon that stuff takes a lotta time.

82resto

Yeah, I'll try looking for one at a junkyard when I'm in Milwaukee in a few weeks.... it's so great that it's actually warm enough up here to go to the junkyards still. Anyway, there's a problem with the LT1 setup, and that is that it doesn't come with a water pump pulley. Obviously you could still use the old one if they're the same widths, but that's a lot of money for all that, and then just ending up with the same old rusty pulley on the water pump. I think what I am going to do is find a way to just route the belt around the powersteering, alternator, crank, and water pump. Of course, I don't know how while retaining my serpentine setup, but I'm sure I'll figure it out.

Jon

EDIT: I just checked out your website... you don't have a thirdgen, do ya? Do you think everything will still be basically the same between a thirdgen setup if I were to make one, and a fourthgen for you?



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Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

LOL i do have a 3rd gen, i've been building an 86 Z28 for a while now, obviously you didnt hit page 4 of my site, you'll the pics of the car after being smashed by a ford explorer, the reason the LT1 kit dont come with a water pump pulley is that it has a cam driven water pump, i actually meant for you to look at the regular march sbc kits for one that would put the accessories on the drivers side and/or drivers side and low pass. side, im thinking maybe the turbo can be mounted sideways putting the exhaust facing the pass. side and then make a 90* down with it, then the inake will go over to the drivers side like a GN, that just might allow for keeping the a/c on yours, and me not having to swap to march accessories.

Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

http://www.marchperformance.com/pg12.html BINGO for you, turbo would face forward, no problems, now to find out if the crossover piping will fit, guess you gonna wait on me for that part huh ?

Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

Ack dont look like that would clear a TPI, have to keep looking...... here we go, get the power steering bracket and pump, and a/c bracket and pump from a 85-87 serpentine/ v belt car, the a/c and ps were v belt and the water pump and alt were serp, then just get a low pass side mount alternator, problems solved

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82resto

Good call... man, you and I need to get together and hammer this turbo situation out. Too bad about that 2,000 mile difference, eh? Lol... well, keep the post up to date about when you'll be ordering that manifold and all.

Later
Jon

Kenwood

iTrader: (1)

Yeah many places have the non-ac boxes...I got mine from camaro heaven....Saves a ton of room...BUT mine from camaro heaven looked like a piece of fing craaaaapp...I mean if the thing were on my car id have thrown it away.I felt like calling them and asking if I could have gotten some air box with my order of rust.Even the blower motor looked bad...I had to completely strip the thing...Sandblast it and repaint it...Then GM discontinued the seals so I had to fab a seal for it...The STOCK controls will control it....As long as you dont mind that your dash says AC when its not really there..I love mine because you can easily change the spark plugs and its much cleaner looking..I actually thought about making a mold of it when I got it done...BUT I did not see an interest in me producing any of them...I still may make myself a fiberglass one just for the light weight.

Tas

holey crap. I haven't seen Kenwood/Hollywood in years. Where you been?

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6 made in Van Nuys, CA, U.S.A.

305, TBI, 700R4, P.A.W. 14x3 open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips, Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248)
Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options

82resto

Kenwood, if you made one, I would definitely purchase one from you. That'd make my bay look so much cleaner. Otherwise, if that's the case with all the A/C delete cars, going to the junkyard isn't going to be much fun....

Jon

Dan91Z

hey tas.. on that dual exhaust page thing you have, site 3 which you have listed as not being true dual exhaust, is true dual exhaust.. the title of the page even says it..
although in some of the photos it dosen't look like it.. in the first one you can see it though..

just thought you might want to know that

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Z28 Twin Turbo Project

Tas

Nowhere in the title does it say its a page for "true" dual exausts, its just a page for dual exausts. An exaust system is "true" (like the true used in carpenter lingo) when each side of the exaust is the mirror image of the other side. The gas takes the same time to leave from one side as it would from ther other.

As for the pages I linked to, just because they think they have "true" dual exaust, doesn't mean they do. I described their sites and rated their sites by my standards.


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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6 made in Van Nuys, CA, U.S.A.

305, TBI, 700R4, P.A.W. 14x3 open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips, Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248)
Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options

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Z28ricer

iTrader: (2)

I'd have to agree it took me quite a few trips to the yard to find one that was in good shape, and I jumped all over it, maybe we can get GT Auto or something to make them ?????

82resto

All right guys,
Since winter break is coming, and it's a month long, I've assembled a small team of my buddies to get this project started. So, hopefully the week after x-mas I should be ordering the manifold.... I wanna get this started. Quick Q though... I have a MAF system and don't want to change to speed density. How can I get this to work. Should I just plumb the MAF before the throttle body like normal and work on PROM issues later, or should I just grab an ECM from another car?

Jon

Guido

82 resto, just plumb the MAF in the turbo air inlet like you would with a vortech or procharger.

82resto

Ya know, that is what I thought. But I've been looking at pics of turbo/tt TPI cars and all of them seem to be lacking the MAF, and I was sure not all of them could be speed density. That clears up a lot.

Thanks man!

Jon