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Old 07-17-2003, 03:52 PM
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Billet strut mounts...

Does any one know where I can get 3 sets of billet strut mounts (or any other better alternative to stock) for my two Z-28s and my IROC? ('86, '87 and '88) I've searched high and low but to no avail...

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Whoa! Easy on the type face there bud, that hurts.


Contact Karl at Hunter Motorsports directly. He's the only one who makes them so he'll let you know if he's making another run of them. IMO, I doubt you'll find them easily. He's a member, Hunter Motorsports...


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Whoa! Easy on the type face there bud, that hurts.


Contact Karl at Hunter Motorsports directly. He's the only one who makes them so he'll let you know if he's making another run of them. IMO, I doubt you'll find them easily. He's a member, Hunter Motorsports...


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Hey blue is cool

Definetly see if you can get your hands on some by Karl, about the only ones available in aluminum. Great pieces.

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Any idea how much these go for? Or should I just write Hunter Motorsports and see what he has?
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Mine ran me right at $330, all fees to get them out of Canada included. Mine are still in the box..


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on a lowered car they let the strut have full travel and they look cool and maybe they flex less i dunno the whole story about them
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I talked to some people at Global West and there still in the process of designing there's. I looked at the ones the have for Mustangs and they were awesome. Have no idea when they will be available or how much. Also I doubt they will offer the same benifits for lowered cars as the ones made by Hunter Motorsports.
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I did contact Karl, but he said he has no plans of making any more in the near future, and IF he did, he'd need at least a firm order of 20 sets so that'd be worth it for him to make and cost effective for the prospective customers... sigh!

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I found this picture of Hunter Motorsport's aluminum strut mounts on Tom Keliher's web page...I want some! :hail:
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are you still selling yours ed
Yep!! $999.00...first one takes them!

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I also found these camber/caster plates from Ground Control but they just substitute the "bearing" part, not the whole tower mount... I personally think they are kind of pricey and Ground Control also has this warning
"...and the exclusive design provides an additional inch of travel. This extra travel can allow the tires to buzz the inner sheetmetal..."
Do the Hunter Motorsports mounts have this extra travel allowance too? In light that there may not be anything else besides stock type replacements, I might have to consider the Ground Control plates... or... may be offer my '87 Z-28 to Global West for a couple of months :hail: for prototyping their design!

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Originally posted by Tibey
I also found these camber/caster plates from Ground Control but they just substitute the "bearing" part, not the whole tower mount... I personally think they are kind of pricey and Ground Control also has this warningDo the Hunter Motorsports mounts have this extra travel allowance too? In light that there may not be anything else besides stock type replacements, I might have to consider the Ground Control plates... or... may be offer my '87 Z-28 to Global West for a couple of months :hail: for prototyping their design!
When they talk about buzzing the inner sheetmetal, they mean the inside sidewall from too much negative camber, and not the top of the wheelwell. I already have to pull the cap off my master cylider to set strut dampen. With the GC unit I would have to reposition the resivoir somewhere else under that much camber.
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i love mine....can't complain about a thing.


good luck.

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300 bones is alot for just cool looks. What are the benifits of these?
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billet mounts

hopefully i'll be holding a new set in my hands this afternoon.
they are simular to the hms mounts but are made from two pieces of stock and have no visible welds in top. the top can will be made from solid stock and hollowed out with a flange mated to the foot plate and welded on the bottem.

will post a pic later if i get them today.

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here they are waiting to be buffed.
paid 300.00 he said shipping will be free
if your interisted e-mail me and i'll hook you up.
i do not make these or stand to make 1 cent from this. a guy i know is now producing these in his spare time(he normally makes parts for jet fighters)
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looks pretty darn good!
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icecold, those look great. send me more info...... thanks
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bearings

the mounts use a replacible bearing.just remove the snapring and press out the old and in with the new.
the mounts will be availible to ship in approx 3 weeks. would be sooner but john is going to sturgis for the motercycle rally
p.s.the mounts will be availible with or without the ingraving on top and if you want somthing specal ingraved that will be possable too(will cost extra)ie:firebird,camero,icecold

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Are these standard height or are they taller for dropped suspension? If they are standard, I'm interested. Email me more details if you could. You wouldn't happen to have a picture of the underside of them? Just wondering if they would be compatible with my coilovers. Thanks
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Well since we're posting pics of new mounts, whaddya think of this bad boy?

Gotta love new stuff...

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i like it

awesome mount-but i still prefier the counterboar fit and the no weld look. these mounts fit together so nice i wasent even sure they need to be welded. i'll post more pics as soon as i polish up the set. the mounts i had made are stock height but the 1'drop will also be availible for the same price--personally i think the 1''drop are a gimick because the strut isent the bottoming point of the suspension but hea whatever floats your boat.
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I posted a questing and don't know why it got deleted???

icecold, can you post pics of the bottom of the mount?
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These bad boys are HOT!!! If you guys want in, let me know. I will get you the info on how to get them..................

They are going for $350 polished or $290 unpolished. Can be custom engraved for an additonal $20.

They are made from 6061 T6 aircraft grade aluminum. The parts are completely machined on state of the art CNC machinery. Then the parts are welded both top and bottom by a professional certified welder. They also engineered 1/4" more positive camber adjustment into the parts for good measure. The bearing is teflon coated and does not require lubricating.
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Originally posted by 88aziroc
These bad boys are HOT!!! If you guys want in, let me know. I will get you the info on how to get them..................

They are going for $350 polished or $290 unpolished. Can be custom engraved for an additonal $20.

They are made from 6061 T6 aircraft grade aluminum. The parts are completely machined on state of the art CNC machinery. Then the parts are welded both top and bottom by a professional certified welder. They also engineered 1/4" more positive camber adjustment into the parts for good measure. The bearing is teflon coated and does not require lubricating.
Have you got them installed yet? I'd like to check them out in person.
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I knew all of you gearheads would come through! I knew there had to be more options than just Hyper Motorsports' products... thanks a lot to all of you guys that take the time to reply, post all those great pictures, e-mails, Private Messages, etc. Keep'em coming!
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Originally posted by 88aziroc
They also engineered 1/4" more positive camber adjustment into the parts for good measure.
Great engineering I must say- better get your facts straight- you want Negetive camber.
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pic of bottem

this is a pic pre weld my set is currently the only welded set and its being buffed so i cant get a pic

this mount is the nicest i've seen so far--cnc quality precision fit flanged surfaces,chamfered edges and no top welds to detract from the looks.cant wait to post a pic ot the polished product.
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Originally posted by AGood2.8
Great engineering I must say- better get your facts straight- you want Negetive camber.
My bad!!!

It is 1/4" more NEGATIVE camber. Man, make a little error , and people just jump on it. My facts are straight, I just made a mistake.
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Originally posted by 88aziroc
My bad!!!

It is 1/4" more NEGATIVE camber. Man, make a little error , and people just jump on it. My facts are straight, I just made a mistake.
I said they look great- just if you are going to sell things to be a little more careful on marketing them
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Re: pic of bottem

Originally posted by icecold
no top welds to detract from the looks.
personaly i think nothing is sexier that a really well done TIG weld. it gives any peice like that the 'custom' look.
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your right but so far none of the pieces i've seen have been welded with a perfect weld. and the welds are hard to polish in the crevices to a high luster. i'm talking first hand as i've held both the hms mounts and the new mounts in my hands.guess i'm just anel because i prefier no weld to a not perfect weld.as for fuction i'm sure that you cant tell the difference between any of the sets with the hood closed.so it's all abouit what you like in looks then
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i guess i am a function over form type of guy, but i would prefer to have it welded both top and bottom, but i prefer things that are very over engineered i am sure that any of the designs are far better than stock design.
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dewey,i'm sure you love your hms mounts but i'd wager that the pressed flanged fit is just as strong maybe stronger.besides the bearing clip is going to let go long before anything else. but really i personally dont care if anyone else ever gets a set like mine as it's way cooler having the only set.

i'll post johns e-mail next week when he's back from sturges for anyone who's interisted

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no the retaining clip will not go first, the large force on a mount on on the rebound side. which is going the other direction on the retaining clip. i am not saying that it is a bad design, i am just making a point as to the direction that the mounts will be seeing th most force, is going to be trying to pull the 2 sections of you mount apart. it is not trying to push the bearing out the top. this also has nothing to do with the mounts i own, or me thinking mine are better. in fact of the 3 designs, i like alloy specialties the best. my point was, that because of the way the strut mount is supposed to function, i would personaly prefer to have it welded both top and bottom, so there is a full weld to the flange, to hold the forces on both compression and rebound.
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ok that being said i still dont beleave that there will be any issues with these mounts. while i agree that there isent as much upward force there is definatly some(shocks work both on rebound and compression).as for pulling the welded mounts apart .i had to use my shop press to dissasemble them to get some pics,now that thay have been welded they arent going anywhere.i'm running ws6 suspension and koni yellows set to medum so i'm sure that if there are any issues i'll find them.but i cant see breaking the lower weld there is just too much welded area to fail.

but for anyone who is concerned just say so and your mounts will be tig welded on top for free.

as for mine i'll let you guys know if there is any problems as i plan to beat te snot out of her this weekend

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These type of mounts aren't bullet proof, as evidenced below:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...bent+and+mount

Of course, if you don't hit curbs you'll be fine..

Maybe one of the designers out there can engineer a steel support of some kind?? But then the price goes up...


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WOW - looks like everyone is doing a wonderfull job of copying our strut mounts.

Oh well... guess I coulda patented them...

So be it.
Old 08-08-2003, 10:28 PM
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Yeah, it looks like they've become rather popular recently. Who knows how many will actually be purchased though, you know how that is.

I see where you're coming from, Karl, but supposedly some of the guys interested in having them made did make an effort to contact you about making another run. Did this happen or not? This is kinda the same thing with the C4 brake upgrades, which are really based on the BAER 12" Sport kit, but we're "making" our own.

You will always be the original maker, and I sure do thank you for my set, but it looks like the mounts have now moved into the "50 types of LCAs" group.


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I had about a half a douzen or so guys contact me... but that is not even close to what we need to make a production run.... and now since the Canadian dollar is stronger it makes things more difficult...

But rest assured - if the interest is there - WE WILL MAKE MORE!

What can I say - it is hard to compete when the dollar keeps fluctuating. That is no excuse, but I designed these things, so I feel a certain amount of personal interest in keeping this close to home.

So - if there is a better deal out there - well there really is not alot I can do about it. It costs us a certain amount to make them - and it really is all about the bottom line. and THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

Stay tuned.... I am still here. And I did design these mounts.
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By the way, Ed, Who is making the "Alloy Specialties" version?

And Icecold: Who is making the "G.S.E.I." version?

as the original designer - I have to be curious
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Originally posted by ebmiller88
These type of mounts aren't bullet proof, as evidenced below:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...bent+and+mount

Of course, if you don't hit curbs you'll be fine..

Maybe one of the designers out there can engineer a steel support of some kind?? But then the price goes up...


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Thats my car And just to clarify I was going somewhere in the range of 90-100 when I smacked the curb so its no wonder the strut mount bent. Along with plenty of other things that I need to replace. As long as you don't get too crazy you shouldn't have need of a steel version/support. I also managed to break 3 of my rims in the process. Here is one of them.

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